Bareback Providers

[Morgan Creamin]

Most common exposure seems to be chlamydia, gonorrhea, and herpes. Two of those just need a shot to eliminate. The big concern for me is HIV. And with the providers that are constantly allowing BBFS, it's surprising to never hear about us contracting it from them. If someone does get it, are they just keeping it to themselves? Or is it so rarely happening? I realize it's harder for us to get it, but a girl taking 5 or 6 random loads of cum inside of her per day, how can she not have HIV by now?

To be clear- I am not a doctor so get your grains of salt out to take this with.

To the best of my understanding there has to be a tear in the epidermis of the penis or the vaginal lining that the virus enters through. Contracting HIV through normal fluid exchange during vaginal intercourse is extremely unlikely. The vaginal lining is VERY tough and is usually coated with natural lube and other fluids that work to wash any antigens away.

If she has it and you have a tear (even a micro tear) in your skin you can get it but you need to get a certain amount of the virus in there to get it to take hold. Possible? Yes. Likely? Not very unless you're fucking with a huge gash on your knob which I'm assuming you're not and wouldn't be allowed to anyway or you just get super unlucky and she's riddled with HIV.

There is a much higher chance of spreading it from the top to the bottom person during anal sex because, obviously, the rectum is not designed for penetration which is why HIV is a much bigger concern in the gay community and why it was hit so hard in the early 80's before any treatments came out.

As for HSV2...it's so common they don't even test for it in STD panels, not even in the porn industry. I guarantee we've all banged multiple hoors that have it, most probably do because condoms are far from foolproof as you can have it in the skin of the pubic area and if one of you is shedding wrapping up makes no difference.

[BuckNaked123]

The other side of this is that very few people understand statistics and especially probability. Your chances of getting something do not necessarily rise in a linear way with the number of encounters you have. If that were the case I, and most of you in this thread, would have everything 17 times over by now and most providers would have exploded from all the gunk in their systems.

Most common exposure seems to be chlamydia, gonorrhea, and herpes. Two of those just need a shot to eliminate. The big concern for me is HIV. And with the providers that are constantly allowing BBFS, it's surprising to never hear about us contracting it from them. If someone does get it, are they just keeping it to themselves? Or is it so rarely happening? I realize it's harder for us to get it, but a girl taking 5 or 6 random loads of cum inside of her per day, how can she not have HIV by now?

[Morgan Creamin]

Of course that is true, but if a provider and her customers are testing every 2 weeks, then in the long term, the chances that someone is clean goes up. Its statistics, not black and white, 100% safe. Every encounter with another sexually active person is a roll of the dice, but tte odds of a bad outcome can get reduced by regular testing.

The other side of this is that very few people understand statistics and especially probability. Your chances of getting something do not necessarily rise in a linear way with the number of encounters you have. If that were the case I, and most of you in this thread, would have everything 17 times over by now and most providers would have exploded from all the gunk in their systems.

[Bobby ShafToe]

As the title stated. These girls usually asks for test results that are no older than 3 days to 2 weeks. One could go fuck half a dozen girls between blood draw to fucking said provider and caught something in between.

Of course that is true, but if a provider and her customers are testing every 2 weeks, then in the long term, the chances that someone is clean goes up. Its statistics, not black and white, 100% safe. Every encounter with another sexually active person is a roll of the dice, but tte odds of a bad outcome can get reduced by regular testing.

[Eiji888]

No worries, and thank you for accepting all that in the good spirit that it was intended.

You're right about the culture in LA / LV (particularly Las Vegas) being more amenable to what you are describing. To that end, check out KateJoin (www.katejoin.com). She's a SoCal girl that occasionally finds her way up to Seattle. She's exactly what you are describing: The base experience is BBFS, as long as you test at one of the two approved labs / centers that she lists on her website. She's also on PD if you want to check out reviews and such.

She isn't actionable right now, of course, but I thought I'd mention her so you can keep an eye out if you dig her look.

Huh...small world. I've actually seen Kate once before years ago when I lived in another state and she was touring. Was the first time I ever creampied a butt. Fun experience.

[Member #7088]

900/ hh? LOL sorry mate, that's pure insanity. Maybe even obscene.

No need to be sorry. OP seemed to have some very specific criteria, so I offered up a suggestion that seemed to fit what he was looking for. Whether he wants to pay her ticket price is up to him.

[Morgan Creamin]

No worries, and thank you for accepting all that in the good spirit that it was intended.

You're right about the culture in LA / LV (particularly Las Vegas) being more amenable to what you are describing. To that end, check out KateJoin (www.katejoin.com). She's a SoCal girl that occasionally finds her way up to Seattle. She's exactly what you are describing: The base experience is BBFS, as long as you test at one of the two approved labs / centers that she lists on her website. She's also on PD if you want to check out reviews and such.

She isn't actionable right now, of course, but I thought I'd mention her so you can keep an eye out if you dig her look.

900/ hh? LOL sorry mate, that's pure insanity. Maybe even obscene.

[Member #7088]

Pretty solid sounding advice actually, thank you. I was just hoping there would be other girls like Brenna where they are openly a higher-end BBFS provider that requires full panel testing. LA & Las Vegas has a fuck ton of those types of girls. But Brenna Sparks and Suki Sin are the only two I've found that fit that criteria here in Seattle. Thanks though mate.

No worries, and thank you for accepting all that in the good spirit that it was intended.

You're right about the culture in LA / LV (particularly Las Vegas) being more amenable to what you are describing. To that end, check out KateJoin (www.katejoin.com). She's a SoCal girl that occasionally finds her way up to Seattle. She's exactly what you are describing: The base experience is BBFS, as long as you test at one of the two approved labs / centers that she lists on her website. She's also on PD if you want to check out reviews and such.

She isn't actionable right now, of course, but I thought I'd mention her so you can keep an eye out if you dig her look.

[Eiji888]

OP's question got a bit lost in the sauce, so responding directly on that.

Hycina, I hear you. Setting aside the question of price-and-cleanliness for a moment, I understand that the connation associated with some of the more frequently-discussed ladies here is that they see a lot of action and it may squick you out. I certainly wouldn't judge you for feeling that way.

That said: I don't want to unfairly distort your question, but the way I read it is "Hey, I don't really want to do the hard work here, so can someone refer me a better product that is already BBFS-certified?" There are a whole bunch of dudes here (myself included) who absolutely know women who would suit your criteria, but those relationships are hard-earned, and seldom distributedly freely. In my case, every single one of my varsity squad are women sourced from Tryst (or similar platforms), and bareback had to be discussed in person. These are often delicate negotiations and rely on luck as much as anything else. You'll get shot down over text 99% of the time.

If someone here generously slipped you a name, then mazel tov, but otherwise you just got to put in the work, man.

With apologies to MC for truncating his reply, I broadly agree with this. Yeah, there is a weak correlation between price points: If you poll 30 EscortAlligator girls and 30 Tryst girls, there is probably a greater frequency of first-date BBFS permissiveness in the EA group. But "higher price" doesn't necessarily mean "cleaner girl. " I've personally seen girls at $200 who wanted me to arrive wrapped head-to-toe in Saran Wrap. I've personally seen girls at near-nosebleed numbers who -- to my ever-lasting surprise -- cheerfully hopped right on and took my load. Fun and all, but post-nut clarity made me question exactly how many loads that expensive chick took that day. It's the same game -- just a higher ticket price.

At the end of the day, they are all women. If they like you, they'll take you bare, irrespective of the price point. Got to get them to like you first, though. Happy hunting.

Pretty solid sounding advice actually, thank you. I was just hoping there would be other girls like Brenna where they are openly a higher-end BBFS provider that requires full panel testing. LA & Las Vegas has a fuck ton of those types of girls. But Brenna Sparks and Suki Sin are the only two I've found that fit that criteria here in Seattle. Thanks though mate.

[Beezy777]

Damn fine answer. It's not that these women don't exist. You're just going to have to play the risk / reward game a little. I've seen ladies mentioned here that were supposedly "slam dunks" and they wrapped me up. I've had women be very explicit about no BB and then, after some convo, just getting on top and having a good time. You can't win if you don't play, and while I don't fault OP for asking, I'm not surprised that the question got buried.

OP's question got a bit lost in the sauce, so responding directly on that.

Hycina, I hear you. Setting aside the question of price-and-cleanliness for a moment, I understand that the connation associated with some of the more frequently-discussed ladies here is that they see a lot of action and it may squick you out. I certainly wouldn't judge you for feeling that way.

That said: I don't want to unfairly distort your question, but the way I read it is "Hey, I don't really want to do the hard work here, so can someone refer me a better product that is already BBFS-certified?" There are a whole bunch of dudes here (myself included) who absolutely know women who would suit your criteria, but those relationships are hard-earned, and seldom distributedly freely. In my case, every single one of my varsity squad are women sourced from Tryst (or similar platforms), and bareback had to be discussed in person. These are often delicate negotiations and rely on luck as much as anything else. You'll get shot down over text 99% of the time.

If someone here generously slipped you a name, then mazel tov, but otherwise you just got to put in the work, man.

With apologies to MC for truncating his reply, I broadly agree with this. Yeah, there is a weak correlation between price points: If you poll 30 EscortAlligator girls and 30 Tryst girls, there is probably a greater frequency of first-date BBFS permissiveness in the EA group. But "higher price" doesn't necessarily mean "cleaner girl. " I've personally seen girls at $200 who wanted me to arrive wrapped head-to-toe in Saran Wrap. I've personally seen girls at near-nosebleed numbers who -- to my ever-lasting surprise -- cheerfully hopped right on and took my load. Fun and all, but post-nut clarity made me question exactly how many loads that expensive chick took that day. It's the same game -- just a higher ticket price.

At the end of the day, they are all women. If they like you, they'll take you bare, irrespective of the price point. Got to get them to like you first, though. Happy hunting.

[BBPornoGeek]

As the title stated. These girls usually asks for test results that are no older than 3 days to 2 weeks. One could go fuck half a dozen girls between blood draw to fucking said provider and caught something in between.

[Member #7088]

Y'all know anyone who offers BBFS that's a bit higher end? Going to be honest, a lot of the girls in this thread are kinda a little sketchy and I'd rather pay a premium to creampie a girl than catch something. Paying a mere extra $100 to rawdog someone is fucking wild.

OP's question got a bit lost in the sauce, so responding directly on that.

Hycina, I hear you. Setting aside the question of price-and-cleanliness for a moment, I understand that the connation associated with some of the more frequently-discussed ladies here is that they see a lot of action and it may squick you out. I certainly wouldn't judge you for feeling that way.

That said: I don't want to unfairly distort your question, but the way I read it is "Hey, I don't really want to do the hard work here, so can someone refer me a better product that is already BBFS-certified?" There are a whole bunch of dudes here (myself included) who absolutely know women who would suit your criteria, but those relationships are hard-earned, and seldom distributedly freely. In my case, every single one of my varsity squad are women sourced from Tryst (or similar platforms), and bareback had to be discussed in person. These are often delicate negotiations and rely on luck as much as anything else. You'll get shot down over text 99% of the time.

If someone here generously slipped you a name, then mazel tov, but otherwise you just got to put in the work, man.

Respectfully, this is a nonsensical statement. You have zero verification that she's clean ... /snip/ ...equating price to cleanliness is a complete non-sequitur.

With apologies to MC for truncating his reply, I broadly agree with this. Yeah, there is a weak correlation between price points: If you poll 30 EscortAlligator girls and 30 Tryst girls, there is probably a greater frequency of first-date BBFS permissiveness in the EA group. But "higher price" doesn't necessarily mean "cleaner girl. " I've personally seen girls at $200 who wanted me to arrive wrapped head-to-toe in Saran Wrap. I've personally seen girls at near-nosebleed numbers who -- to my ever-lasting surprise -- cheerfully hopped right on and took my load. Fun and all, but post-nut clarity made me question exactly how many loads that expensive chick took that day. It's the same game -- just a higher ticket price.

At the end of the day, they are all women. If they like you, they'll take you bare, irrespective of the price point. Got to get them to like you first, though. Happy hunting.

[Morgan Creamin]

She's pricey but I feel pretty safe going raw with her because of her price, her status, and because she requires the heavy duty full std testing.

Respectfully, this is a nonsensical statement. You have zero verification that she's clean, even if she shows you results I can give you 10 different ways they can be faked. She's a hoor and you're a john, the risk is there irrespective of price and we all play that game. I've met some low-end providers that were obsessed with cleanliness and some that clearly gave no fucks to the point I just walked out. It's all about the individual and even more so luck.

Just based on probability and reports from inside the industry where it's commonplace there is a high likelihood that she has HSV2. You can say that about most providers as well. But equating price to cleanliness is a complete non-sequitur.

[Markro3000]

Y'all know anyone who offers BBFS that's a bit higher end? Going to be honest, a lot of the girls in this thread are kinda a little sketchy and I'd rather pay a premium to creampie a girl than catch something. Paying a mere extra $100 to rawdog someone is fucking wild.

I'm talking like Brenna Sparks for example. She's pricey but I feel pretty safe going raw with her because of her price, her status, and because she requires the heavy duty full std testing.

For $3100, that would have to be a heckuva experience!

I would book 6 sessions and KAngels and I would 100% find that a lot more satisfying. In theory, if one wanted to DoxyPep / PreP for 6 sessions that wouldn't be totally out of bounds either. Not a guarantee, but pretty close.

[Gophy]

I love it when a provider who I've been nutting in for years acts like she doesn't let anyone who pays her regular rate fill her raw. All the guys saying "oh you do BBFS? I'm never seeing you again" and then post about how they go down on everyone. If you are that concerned about catching something just don't do the hobby at all. Not like condoms completely protect you.