LA J-Girls

[Taliesin92]

I've thought about the same problem for years. The reasoning for the shop is simple. The shop knows the guys who even want 120 mins are more likely to be able to afford full rate. No point giving a discount to their whales so to speak. This logic is the same between corgs and korgs.

The other reason is it is too risky to encourage 2 hours with 90% of girls. If guys randomly pick a girl to do 2 hours with "just any girl", they'll be disappointed. So guys just have to know who to pick and go out of their way to do it. With HYA, many newer girls peter out at 30-45 minutes of action / service, where even 1 full hour is not a good idea.

There were some high service HYA where people booked her 2 hours because she was so good and so cheap. But "where" is such a girl to be found? It turns out, the word "where" translates to Nali...

Ha ha! Yeah, Nali is the only HYA I can think of who falls into that category. Another path some guys use to get longer appointments (as you already know well) is to book the final appointment of the night. For guys who don't know: If the girl likes you, she may keep you longer. 20 to 30 minutes over time is common. If she likes you A LOT, 45 minutes to an hour, or more, is possible.

That's also a very good way to find out if she likes you as more than just a customer. It happens more often with MILFs, of course, but even the HYAs will do it if they are enjoying their time with you and they don't want you to leave immediately.

Conversely, if you book her final appointment of the night and she NEVER keeps you over time, then it's a good bet she doesn't see you as anything more than a random customer.

It is a litmus test of the hobby world!

[Stonkz]

I think is for video, I am going to visit Baby Nia this afternoon and will report back.

Let us know if you decide to see her. I did some digging from the photos and it just led me to other sites. And one name called miku J. I dunno if it's the same girl though since J girls recycle same name.

[SkyShooter27]

This ad is totally confusing. +100 for bb but +200 for "v?" Vaginal sex and all else is anal? Being on Viagra?

I think is for video, I am going to visit Baby Nia this afternoon and will report back.

[CumSquat]

Anyone recognize this girl. The only J girl I can't find intel on.

https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-nia-j

This ad is totally confusing. +100 for bb but +200 for "v?" Vaginal sex and all else is anal? Being on Viagra?

[FirstTimer7]

Are any of the current Get9 Jgirls completely shaved?

TIA.

Ria and Purple (confirmed Lemon from Vegas) are shaved. Tomomi has a Bush.

[TeslaTower]

Are any of the current Get9 Jgirls completely shaved?

TIA.

[Stonkz]

Anyone recognize this girl. The only J girl I can't find intel on.

https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-nia-j

[Undftd88]

Anyone seen MH#1 Jia hui (Chinese) or MH #4 Amenda (singaporean)? Real pics, decent service and no Bush? TIA.

[Download X]

With all this discussion of corgs and korgs, one thing I do wish is I wish korgs had a 90 minute or 120 minute option. But no, if you want 120 minutes at a korg, you have to pay double, there's no discount.

I've thought about the same problem for years. The reasoning for the shop is simple. The shop knows the guys who even want 120 mins are more likely to be able to afford full rate. No point giving a discount to their whales so to speak. This logic is the same between corgs and korgs.

The other reason is it is too risky to encourage 2 hours with 90% of girls. If guys randomly pick a girl to do 2 hours with "just any girl", they'll be disappointed. So guys just have to know who to pick and go out of their way to do it. With HYA, many newer girls peter out at 30-45 minutes of action / service, where even 1 full hour is not a good idea.

There were some high service HYA where people booked her 2 hours because she was so good and so cheap. But "where" is such a girl to be found? It turns out, the word "where" translates to Nali.

In the golden age of kgirls, many kgirls had high looks, high service, cheap rates. But the last three birds have flown away now. One guy asked me if so-and-so is likely to work at her old shop again. I replied, "When a bird flies out of its cage, it never flies back in."

MH Cherry was the jgirl version of Nali in being high looks, high service, cheap rate. She was 260 hh. Though for higher budget guys, I actually recommended 2 hours with her. In a 2 hour session, she could blow me for 1 full hour. I was..not the only one who noticed. It brought back memories of my retired ATF who could do the same. If you pay close attention, MH Cherry's tongue will swipe left-right-left-right like a swimmer during bbbj.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7401753 Legends

Dragon Training
Although Dragons are rare, new ones will come. Every Legend has to start somewhere. Some guys saw Nali before her MMs, long ago when she was newish, and said they did not even realize she was the same girl. Others saw Jenny before her MMs, and on seeing her more recently they marveled at the transformation in skill, attitude, confidence. Even I have witnessed with my own eyes and body, multiple HYAs going from D-Tier service to B-Tier service rapidly. Some in a matter of weeks, and one of them achieved it in mere days. Talent doesn't just appear out of nowhere.

It is remarkable that I know other HYA who were stuck at C-Tier service even after a full year. So some girls are simply fast learners and suitable for Dragon transformation, while others are not. I will say that anyone who has mastered the Lizza guide can help speed up that process, but only about as high as A-Tier. At around that level, you need a Mother Dragon.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7423384 D-Tier to B-Tier service

Jgirls Rarely Have Stalkers
I will answer a final question I got recently about jgirls and why they (generally) have so few stalkers. So jgirls, for various reasons mostly have short tours. Basically, for any respectable stalker it wouldn't be worth his time investing his feelings in a girl who's going to be gone in a few weeks anyways. "Let's go stalk another girl", they say to each other.

[Optional]

With all this discussion of corgs and korgs, one thing I do wish is I wish korgs had a 90 minute or 120 minute option. But no, if you want 120 minutes at a korg, you have to pay double, there's no discount.

[Download X]

No offense but the Cgirls who do BBFS at hotels are literally 4-5 in looks at BEST. My dick couldn't even get hard. DLX is absolutely correct in his writeup about Corgs. There are some smoking Cgirls in that come from time to time but 90% is GFE only and you'd be paying minimum $300-500/ hr. Why would a hot young girl need to go bare when she can get just as many customers with rubber. To me, only the Ahjummas, north koreans, older Jgirls past prime in japan do BB here. It's so bad out here that I'd pay $500/ hhr for a true HYA. My dick has high standards LOL.

Yes I was trying to be polite. Some guys care about service not looks, so they will be happy with the cheap thrill and don't mind older women with less looks. Older women almost always know their job.

As you say, they are pricing the college student cgirls accordingly. I said before cgirl HYA seem to have an extra premium but there are good value girls too. The pre-MILFs tend to have both looks and service. And sometimes, a cgirl HYA is cheaper just because she is missing one or two things someone might not care about. MH Malina had no tits and was newish, but those are lower priorities for me so I was happy to see her. Her face was very nice and she was a sweet young girl, skinny and tall. Currently No2 Apple 171cm (girls change all the time).

I have seen cgirls raise their price over time as they acquire skills and confidence. I don't mind paying more for a premium cgirl but many guys would not of course. The beauty of it is you could knock on her door and if you don't agree with my standards, just move on to the next girl. The cgirl HYA are expensive, it's not for everyone.

Door knocking and vibe checking at corgs is as powerful as using intel with korgs. Especially if you are a face first guy - corgs are not idea for "body first" guys. The way I approach it, I managed to be happy with both corgs and korgs, since it doubled my HYA options by adding a mix of jgirls and cgirls. There are many other races too of course.

I compared notes with others, and we noticed that cgirls who were premium or even super premium tended to be very fresh. It's all kinds of little details. About service, it is ymmv of course but some of us got unlimited shots. The super premium girls are sometimes listed as "book 2 hours ahead", so they aren't at the shop but show up if you book them. Meaning you sometimes might be the only guy that day. I'm not saying those details are worth paying extra, but we did often get that on top of an attractive girl with good attitude. So it is a whole package kind of thing. Premium jgirls follow the same pattern.

If it is not busy, some people will door knock every girl and decide. I kind of cheat and usually have some intel and just need to knock 2 doors most times. But after seeing my girl, I'll often knock on the rest or say hi to each girl "for next time". I tend to put them in a good mood, just be polite when doing this.

Oh I almost forgot, shower etiquette. Some rooms have their own shower while others share a shower. If it's a shared shower, the girl will knock since someone might be there already. Don't assume. Long ago, I was talking with an East Coast friend who only uses corgs and told them they should try shower banging a particular girl that showed up in their town. And they were like "Huh? Won't the next guy waiting to use the shower get pissed?" Good point.

No1 girls sometimes have the biggest rooms which sometimes means their own shower, but that's just generalization and there's no guarantee. I have often seen other girls temporarily take over the No1 room too, it's very flexible at some places. Same thing if you do a duo, the three of you might take over the No1 room (if possible). Imo, only do a duo if you know at least one girl if not both.

[Undftd88]

No offense but the Cgirls who do BBFS at hotels are literally 4-5 in looks at BEST. My dick couldn't even get hard. DLX is absolutely correct in his writeup about Corgs. There are some smoking Cgirls in that come from time to time but 90% is GFE only and you'd be paying minimum $300-500/ hr. Why would a hot young girl need to go bare when she can get just as many customers with rubber. To me, only the Ahjummas, north koreans, older Jgirls past prime in japan do BB here. It's so bad out here that I'd pay $500/ hhr for a true HYA. My dick has high standards LOL.

Just to clarify I meant $300-500/ HHR. Also, if you are fairly good looking / young and fit and speak Chinese, cgirls tend to give out extra good service. If that's not you then you SOL.

[Undftd88]

I should clarify everything is referring to HYA, I don't really explore beyond that. If anyone knows a cgirl HYA who does bb, we'd all love to know. Kgirls are different in that they have HYA who offer bb and usually for 100.

Jgirls are kind of tricky because at corgs they are usually 200 bb unless you can negotiate somehow. A few are 100, a few are 300. I have heard of free and 400 but it's too rare to expect. When jgirls go korgs, they are normally 100 bb.

Of the jgirls showing up, only a small fraction switch to korgs here. But I think a good strategy is if you prefer kgirls anyways there is no need to be greedy. Just wait for jgirls to show up at korgs and pick the best ones. There are several good and young jgirls at korgs right now, only dealbreaker is small tits. Looks and service are good.

No offense but the Cgirls who do BBFS at hotels are literally 4-5 in looks at BEST. My dick couldn't even get hard. DLX is absolutely correct in his writeup about Corgs. There are some smoking Cgirls in that come from time to time but 90% is GFE only and you'd be paying minimum $300-500/ hr. Why would a hot young girl need to go bare when she can get just as many customers with rubber. To me, only the Ahjummas, north koreans, older Jgirls past prime in japan do BB here. It's so bad out here that I'd pay $500/ hhr for a true HYA. My dick has high standards LOL.

[Download X]

There are plenty of Chinese girls in the corgs who do BBFS. All the ones at the hotels do it. It's 200 for a half hour with BBFS and 350 for an hour with MSOG.

I should clarify everything is referring to HYA, I don't really explore beyond that. If anyone knows a cgirl HYA who does bb, we'd all love to know. Kgirls are different in that they have HYA who offer bb and usually for 100.

Jgirls are kind of tricky because at corgs they are usually 200 bb unless you can negotiate somehow. A few are 100, a few are 300. I have heard of free and 400 but it's too rare to expect. When jgirls go korgs, they are normally 100 bb.

Of the jgirls showing up, only a small fraction switch to korgs here. But I think a good strategy is if you prefer kgirls anyways there is no need to be greedy. Just wait for jgirls to show up at korgs and pick the best ones. There are several good and young jgirls at korgs right now, only dealbreaker is small tits. Looks and service are good.

[TJ2617]

Corg tips
Since half the jgirls are spread out among corgs, I'll add these key tips copied from another post I made:

..Chinese girls as a rule are strictly GFE only. Most Japanese girls will do bb but at a corg it is typically 200. I have seen a few say it's 300 if you want CIP, but I've also seen just a few who were 100 bb. Occasionally jgirls on repeats will do 100 but it is very YMMV (maybe 25%). They are usually happy about repeats so if at the end of your first session you are sure you will try to repeat her, ask her if you can repeat her with 100 bb.

I've never been charged for 2nd shot with jgirls, but I've occasionally heard of it. No idea, maybe it's a perk of following the Lizza guide and making sure girls are comfortable. I guess I also use advanced tactics where I feel out a girl within the first 2 minutes of meeting her. You can walk if she isn't your type or it feels off, just be polite about it as nothing personal. If you are polite, neither of you will think anything more of it and move on.

About walking, for me it's usually for looks. I'll be at the door and see her, smile, and if she's not my type I say "nice to meet you" and close the door and ask for another girl. I don't even step, much better that way. I generally always pick a girl so it's all the same to the shop. Regulars can walk without picking a girl, the shop knows you'll be back and they want regulars to be happy.

You can always on the spot pick hh or hr, it's normal not to decide until you are in front of her. Even if you say hr to booker, you can switch to hh. There were times I thought the girl was hot but wasn't sure about her attitude. So I actually asked the girl if she thought I should do hh or hr, and the way she replied made my decision. Girls are usually consistent with their reactions, or at least I've had a long streak this way.

If you feel a girl is GPS or you want to negotiate something important and she won't do it, just walk. For example some guys want COF (cum on face), but most jgirls only allow it if you are last appointment and tip since it is a hassle to re-apply make up. That makes sense to me and in any case is an example where good communication is key. Don't blame, just be reasonable and if a girl can't make you happy then walk and find the next girl. Every girl has a different policy anyways.

One last option as a last resort is to walk after the shower if there is a problem. It's going to be: Looks, attitude, or hygene. For example a girl has great face and you pick her, but then you get in the shower with her and see she has no tits and know you aren't going to be happy. In this case be polite and I would give her a 40 tip for seeing her naked and getting her shower service. Then ask for another girl. 40 is fair and good manners since you did pick her based on her face, she didn't do anything wrong. This is a common etiquette at some shops and it solves a problem. Do it within the first 3-5 minutes, then 40 is more than fair. Of course, once service starts and you've entered her mouth or pussy, you pay full rate. Another example is if you chose hr and need to end it before hh, ask for the difference back and that's fine. Do not let the hh pass if you do this. Hope all this is clear, it's normal and if you are polite and communicate reasonably it's never been a problem in my experience.

The ability to walk is a critical tool with corgs that give it one advantage over korgs. It lets me peek a girl on the spot but pivot to a second choice instead. Both corgs and korgs have their pros and cons, they kind of balance out as long as you know and use all your options. Korgs have nice hour pricing, cheaper bb pricing, more privacy. Whereas corgs let you browse a bit and make critical decisions on the spot.

Since these corg aspects make it good for "looks first" guys, it weeds out many girls especially GND face or butterface girls. Many jgirls I know are very GND face lasted 2-3 days instead of the full 5-10, even if they have fine bodies and no other issues. Whereas there are some jgirls that get invited back repeatedly. Corgs do have high service girls too of course, but the emphasis is just shifted towards looks. One other emphasis is they prefer to rotate girls more quickly. And 90% of the reviews are in Chinese. But I found it doesn't matter due to the tactics I listed above.

Each shop is different. Some shops are premium shops and less busy, and the girls are fresher with better performance. Whenever I paid for a semi-premium or premium priced girl her condition was very good. I've seen examples where the exact same girl later goes to another shop (corg, korg, or East Coast) and get worn out. So I kind of like it when people complain about the higher priced girls, because those complaints actually help me. Others have reported this same freshness difference, it's uncanny. Oh well.

A reminder that corgs have superior hh rates, korgs have superior hr rates. Cgirls tend to be priced 25% higher than jgirls and kgirls for the same level of looks and service. I did enjoy them though. There are also some high tier looks cgirls, you just have to pay premium rates for it. And ultimately, there are a few cgirls and jgirls with slightly higher looks than premium kgirls. But they rotate out fast.

I'll add that once you use the proper tactics for both corgs (door browsing+vibe check) and korgs (intel), you end up getting way better value at both. It takes a lot of practice to do either one well, but I am getting double value than I used to with lots of A-Tier girls now.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7423340 Value Formula

There are plenty of Chinese girls in the corgs who do BBFS. All the ones at the hotels do it. It's 200 for a half hour with BBFS and 350 for an hour with MSOG.