Massage Parlor Reports

[Choir Boy]

I called an attorney in case letter became real issue he agrees they are not likely to arrest anyone because would be too much man power and he think the letters are just fear tactic, if we don't here anything or get anything the mail in 2 to 3 months this was just press conference.

OK kids, I think it's time we knock off this letter stuff. When Charlie Kirk was murdered, the cops didn't send the killer a letter; they hauled his ass in. That's kind of how law enforcement works. I never saw a cop show where the bad guys were sent a letter, and I'm old enough to remember the tail end of Dragnet.

[JohnDick75]

It sounds like this Mayor is eyeing some run at a higher office and this is his circus to push that agenda.

He definitely wants to send letters and probably would go overboard, but his attorneys will reel him in to an extent.

He wants to shame people. However, the level of shaming will have to coincide with the certainty of visitations. So if they send a lot of letters, they'll be vague and unlikely to have things like date / time, photos, etc. Custom and personalized letters will be costly and time-consuming and they only need to send 1 letter like that to someone who only went for a message and they've got a slander / libel case on their hands.

If you have visited the spas specifically charged (half of them left town on their own), if you've visited multiple spas on multiple occasions and those spas were under surveillance or have good cameras nearby, you probably should be worried about these letters. If you live, work or do any business near any of the spas, you're going to show up as a false positive if they cast a wide net.

You'll note that they are looking to add cameras, license plate readers, etc. So that suggests they don't have great records for the past.

While I don't recommend or encourage it, an unscrupulous person might consider spamming the tip line with false tips of their neighbors license plates as a means of dulling the impact, since if everyone gets a letter, it's easily played off as "if you do any business or live in Methuen, you're likely to accidentally be in one of their camera rolls". False reporting is a crime, however.

I called an attorney in case letter became real issue he agrees they are not likely to arrest anyone because would be too much man power and he think the letters are just fear tactic, if we don't here anything or get anything the mail in 2 to 3 months this was just press conference.

[TheIceGuy]

It doesn't matter where you were, Maine, Mass, NH, Florida, if you get questioned by the po Po, you got a legit massage and that's it. I was coming out of Colonial in Salem Mass a few years ago, a cop was parked right in front, told me he needed to ask me some questions. I said that I got a regular massage and that was it, when asked if I was offered any additional services such as a happy ending, I said "no", I got a legit massage and that was it. Don't believe their lies, whatever bullshit they try to threaten you with, you are allowed to get legit massage.

AMP.

Exactly, and they WILL lie, bluff, etc to try and get some confession. They are not your friends. They see us as subhuman (even though some of them likely partake). They are not looking for help busting some trafficking ring. They don't care about any of that. They want busts and to catch anyone confessing would be prime material for their bragging rights.

No matter what they pretend, if they had something on you, they'd bust you. Whatever they do have (picture of your car at the salon) isn't strong enough in court so they want the confession.

In higher crimes, yes it's possible they do have tons of evidence and they're just seeking a confession for the cherry on top to secure a conviction (still never confess), but not with this shit.

Keep in mind, some places give a decent amount of foot massages to women. I believe Red Sun for example had quite a few female customers.

[Amppro95]

It is exactly what he is doing, running for re election! I always parked away from the Spa I went to, never directly in front. A little healthy walk is good for the body. None of this scares me off, What ? they got a picture of me walking into the place, screw them! If / when Lav opens again or at another location I'll be right back in it! Always enjoyed my time with Mamasan.

PL.

It doesn't matter where you were, Maine, Mass, NH, Florida, if you get questioned by the po Po, you got a legit massage and that's it. I was coming out of Colonial in Salem Mass a few years ago, a cop was parked right in front, told me he needed to ask me some questions. I said that I got a regular massage and that was it, when asked if I was offered any additional services such as a happy ending, I said "no", I got a legit massage and that was it. Don't believe their lies, whatever bullshit they try to threaten you with, you are allowed to get legit massage.

AMP.

[PinayLuver]

It sounds like this Mayor is eyeing some run at a higher office and this is his circus to push that agenda.

He definitely wants to send letters and probably would go overboard, but his attorneys will reel him in to an extent.

He wants to shame people. However, the level of shaming will have to coincide with the certainty of visitations. So if they send a lot of letters, they'll be vague and unlikely to have things like date / time, photos, etc. Custom and personalized letters will be costly and time-consuming and they only need to send 1 letter like that to someone who only went for a message and they've got a slander / libel case on their hands.

If you have visited the spas specifically charged (half of them left town on their own), if you've visited multiple spas on multiple occasions and those spas were under surveillance or have good cameras nearby, you probably should be worried about these letters. If you live, work or do any business near any of the spas, you're going to show up as a false positive if they cast a wide net.

You'll note that they are looking to add cameras, license plate readers, etc. So that suggests they don't have great records for the past.

While I don't recommend or encourage it, an unscrupulous person might consider spamming the tip line with false tips of their neighbors license plates as a means of dulling the impact, since if everyone gets a letter, it's easily played off as "if you do any business or live in Methuen, you're likely to accidentally be in one of their camera rolls". False reporting is a crime, however.

It is exactly what he is doing, running for re election! I always parked away from the Spa I went to, never directly in front. A little healthy walk is good for the body. None of this scares me off, What ? they got a picture of me walking into the place, screw them! If / when Lav opens again or at another location I'll be right back in it! Always enjoyed my time with Mamasan.

PL.

[Bgddy52]

Is there any chance the letters could just be for cameras or worst case they are only in practicality going to reveal the johns who spoke to them though for everyone's sake I hope the letters are just a threat a de facto last chance.

It sounds like this Mayor is eyeing some run at a higher office and this is his circus to push that agenda.

He definitely wants to send letters and probably would go overboard, but his attorneys will reel him in to an extent.

He wants to shame people. However, the level of shaming will have to coincide with the certainty of visitations. So if they send a lot of letters, they'll be vague and unlikely to have things like date / time, photos, etc. Custom and personalized letters will be costly and time-consuming and they only need to send 1 letter like that to someone who only went for a message and they've got a slander / libel case on their hands.

If you have visited the spas specifically charged (half of them left town on their own), if you've visited multiple spas on multiple occasions and those spas were under surveillance or have good cameras nearby, you probably should be worried about these letters. If you live, work or do any business near any of the spas, you're going to show up as a false positive if they cast a wide net.

You'll note that they are looking to add cameras, license plate readers, etc. So that suggests they don't have great records for the past.

While I don't recommend or encourage it, an unscrupulous person might consider spamming the tip line with false tips of their neighbors license plates as a means of dulling the impact, since if everyone gets a letter, it's easily played off as "if you do any business or live in Methuen, you're likely to accidentally be in one of their camera rolls". False reporting is a crime, however.

[JayBean]

Do you know how many people have visited these places for a legit massage? This dipshit mayor on his little crusade is stepping outside his boundaries. As soon as he makes some dumb claim with his little broad brush he's going to regret it. The fact is he is alleging all of these conspiracies publicly. Very dangerous move for him as his wrong move here could cost that shit hole city millions. Let him have his 15 minutes which is already over. Great job mayor!! Now move on to the real issues that haunt your shithole community!

[JohnDick75]

Sending letters seems like a very bad idea from a legal point of view. Just having a picture of you car near the building wouldn't be enough. Many of these shops have other locations nearby where you could have actually been going. The most likely people to get those letters would be the one who visited the shops shut down by the police or because of the woman. Also, couldn't you just throw it in the trash before anyone saw it? I cann't find where they said they would send such letters so I can't be sure what they intend to do.

Is there any chance the letters could just be for cameras or worst case they are only in practicality going to reveal the johns who spoke to them though for everyone's sake I hope the letters are just a threat a de facto last chance.

[JohnDick75]

Sending letters seems like a very bad idea from a legal point of view. Just having a picture of you car near the building wouldn't be enough. Many of these shops have other locations nearby where you could have actually been going. The most likely people to get those letters would be the one who visited the shops shut down by the police or because of the woman. Also, couldn't you just throw it in the trash before anyone saw it? I cann't find where they said they would send such letters so I can't be sure what they intend to do.

It depends who gets mail first obviously I would try too but have no idea of the date and time if it's some places like lavander I can explain away due to gas station bring near by or if the spa near dentist Dunkin' Donuts is next door, however if red sun trips have my car footage or worse me out of car footage there's nothing near by that I can reasonably explain away.

[MaybeSometime]

Sending letters seems like a very bad idea from a legal point of view. Just having a picture of you car near the building wouldn't be enough. Many of these shops have other locations nearby where you could have actually been going. The most likely people to get those letters would be the one who visited the shops shut down by the police or because of the woman. Also, couldn't you just throw it in the trash before anyone saw it? I cann't find where they said they would send such letters so I can't be sure what they intend to do.

[Bgddy52]

What's the source for these "Dear John" letters??

[Bgddy52]

I just saw the news and the mayor is going to mail dear John letters does anyone have advice on how to explain that away to family if the letter is vague enough I can manage as I live near spa the issue is if the dear John letter names the spa and or has pictures of the car, please advise as my family thinks well of me probably far more than I deserve I don't want to let them down.

Or simply toss it with the rest of the junk mail.

[Bgddy52]

I just saw the news and the mayor is going to mail dear John letters does anyone have advice on how to explain that away to family if the letter is vague enough I can manage as I live near spa the issue is if the dear John letter names the spa and or has pictures of the car, please advise as my family thinks well of me probably far more than I deserve I don't want to let them down.

What's the source you're seeing?

Sounds like a massive breach of privacy and the kind of thing begging the ACLU or other rights groups to sue over.

[Woody32]

I just saw the news and the mayor is going to mail dear John letters does anyone have advice on how to explain that away to family if the letter is vague enough I can manage as I live near spa the issue is if the dear John letter names the spa and or has pictures of the car, please advise as my family thinks well of me probably far more than I deserve I don't want to let them down.

Go to your bathroom, practice practice your deer in the headlights look and shock and tell them you don't believe it! All you did was lay face down with your underwear on and got a good massage, that really helped your back from all the hard work you do to provide for your wonderful family.

[JohnDick75]

I just saw the news and the mayor is going to mail dear John letters does anyone have advice on how to explain that away to family if the letter is vague enough I can manage as I live near spa the issue is if the dear John letter names the spa and or has pictures of the car, please advise as my family thinks well of me probably far more than I deserve I don't want to let them down.