Every time I had a break up, someone from these places took care of me. I mean there are two types of customers, (I believe) the one who can't what he wants from his wife, and the hopeless loner with decades of childhood trauma that prevent them from ever being in a relationship. Let's just say one of us was interested in running an AMP or apartment, what do you veterans recommend? Location? Services? Booking? Anybody ever watch the film with Henry Winkler "Night Shift?" I love these places, but I really hate the conditions and politics these women have to face to work here. So what would make for the perfect spa? Maybe this thread could be a manifesto on how to run a spa keep the customers and employees happy. Just curious I have no plans to run an AMP. I'm too much of a simp.
I would love to run a AMP or Apartment! What a dream come true that would be! But where do you find the girls and the mamasan? LOL.
I am a newbie to all of this, just started 2 weeks when I departed from my ex gf last month, it felt empty, didn't find the one who I ate sushi with, or hang out for movie, then I started to look, not much luck with escorts because they are all using fake pic on ads or run scams with deposits, I found meeting real people in spas was the way, it is a completely new life of meeting new people. But your story resembles "pretty woman" just not the ending.
By no means am I a newbie, I have been with over 1000 working girls, and have had great times and not so great times. I have played the game all over the world.
Just a few words for thought.
Never get too close to these girls.
First off 99.9% of the time they don't care about us, they only care about our money. As soon as you walk out the door you are promptly forgotten.
No you are not going to pull them out of the business and "save them" Does that happen, sure, but like probably about 1% of the time, and a good chance she won't be loyal to you.
Every time I had a break up, someone from these places took care of me. I mean there are two types of customers, (I believe) the one who can't what he wants from his wife, and the hopeless loner with decades of childhood trauma that prevent them from ever being in a relationship. Let's just say one of us was interested in running an AMP or apartment, what do you veterans recommend? Location? Services? Booking? Anybody ever watch the film with Henry Winkler "Night Shift?" I love these places, but I really hate the conditions and politics these women have to face to work here. So what would make for the perfect spa? Maybe this thread could be a manifesto on how to run a spa keep the customers and employees happy. Just curious I have no plans to run an AMP. I'm too much of a simp.
I like variety. Always have. … I have tried affairs but that shit leads to trouble. No matter what the girl says if you fuck her well (very well) eventually she will want to fuck you all the time exclusively. Doesn't matter if she is married, doesn't matter if she says she doesn't want to change her situation. There will come a day where at the very least she doesn't want you to fuck anyone else, including your wife. It's a headache.
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Been there, done that. The smoother things appear at first, the more likely trouble will follow. If it's rough from the beginning, participants stay alert and have fewer expectations. A comfortable ride lulls attention, leaving one hypnotized and vulnerable to an eventual crash.
I like variety. Always have. It does not matter how much I like the girl or love the girl, my dick likes strange pussy. I have tried affairs but that shit leads to trouble. No matter what the girl says if you fuck her well (very well) eventually she will want to fuck you all the time exclusively. Doesn't matter if she is married, doesn't matter if she says she doesn't want to change her situation. There will come a day where at the very least she doesn't want you to fuck anyone else, including your wife. It's a headache.
No with renting pussy a lot of drama goes away. See her every day for a week and then don't call for months. When you're ready she will take your call and fuck you and be happy to see you again. All for a few dollars. I know a lot of people lose their head and get in trouble by falling in love or spending too much money or ignoring the warning signs but if one is smart in this hobby your chance of getting caught is low. Not zero, but lower probably lower than having a long term affair or trying to pick up women in a bar. Even if there is a sting a man who reads this forum should be able to avoid getting busted.
That's all. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. Renting pussy is a lot better than buying. On my death bed my only regrets will be the pussy I didn't sample.
I like variety. Always have. It does not matter how much I like the girl or love the girl, my dick likes strange pussy. I have tried affairs but that shit leads to trouble. No matter what the girl says if you fuck her well (very well) eventually she will want to fuck you all the time exclusively. Doesn't matter if she is married, doesn't matter if she says she doesn't want to change her situation. There will come a day where at the very least she doesn't want you to fuck anyone else, including your wife. It's a headache.
No with renting pussy a lot of drama goes away. See her every day for a week and then don't call for months. When you're ready she will take your call and fuck you and be happy to see you again. All for a few dollars. I know a lot of people lose their head and get in trouble by falling in love or spending too much money or ignoring the warning signs but if one is smart in this hobby your chance of getting caught is low. Not zero, but lower probably lower than having a long term affair or trying to pick up women in a bar. Even if there is a sting a man who reads this forum should be able to avoid getting busted.
That's all. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. Renting pussy is a lot better than buying. On my death bed my only regrets will be the pussy I didn't sample.
The first SW I picked up and the first massage parlor I went to was in 1984 when I was living in SoCal. 40 years later here I am. I wished I kept a journal all these years. I suppose if I looked back on forum posts that would be a bit of a journal. I'll probably sit down and add something to this as I've been in and out of relationships with sex workers over the years. Just wanted to postcard say I appreciate the thoughts of those posting.
My days start back in 2013. I have created a map with a list of every encounter I've had. I'm sure I've forgotten about a few boring, unpleasant experiences but I love looking back on the good times.
I generally don't get close to these girls / women because usually the vibe isn't there. However, the last few years, there's one that I've gotten close to and she seems to be close to me. Sort of. It's to the point where she contacts me to get together. But she's also raised her rates, but now we spend hours together instead of just one hour. But she's been known to not reach out for extended periods of time. It's something she's done all along. I enjoy my time with her whenever it happens. It feels like what a real relationship should feel like, especially since my real relationships were all total disasters.
I'm not saying I've hit 4 digits of women but I think I'm solidly in the 3 digits. Right now, I have the above woman whenever we can get together. I also have another one who is more available physically, but keeps the emotions in check. That's also why I haven't posted in a while. I still read the forums here and still look for escorts but I've gotten more selective over time.
I think this is the right mindset to take, specifically "I enjoy my time with her whenever it happens. ".
Whatever relationship you may have with someone you met doing this, it is important to recognize that you met in a very unconventional way (at least, for most people in this world). It may be fleeting. You may only know them for an hour. Or, you could develop some form of a relationship that takes different twists and turns over time. But, in either case, the best mental approach is to appreciate your time for what it is. Live in the moment when you are together. But, don't try to make too much out of it. Only take things as far as she is willing to reciprocate. Any further and you will go down a rabbit hole that is hard (and time consuming) to come back from.
Think of your life as a book. Certain characters are only around for certain chapters. Others are around from beginning to end. That doesn't mean that you can't enjoy the times you have with someone. Just recognize them for what they are, and don't get too emotionally invested in the characters that might only be around for a chapter or two.
I generally don't get close to these girls / women because usually the vibe isn't there. However, the last few years, there's one that I've gotten close to and she seems to be close to me. Sort of. It's to the point where she contacts me to get together. But she's also raised her rates, but now we spend hours together instead of just one hour. But she's been known to not reach out for extended periods of time. It's something she's done all along. I enjoy my time with her whenever it happens. It feels like what a real relationship should feel like, especially since my real relationships were all total disasters.
I'm not saying I've hit 4 digits of women but I think I'm solidly in the 3 digits. Right now, I have the above woman whenever we can get together. I also have another one who is more available physically, but keeps the emotions in check. That's also why I haven't posted in a while. I still read the forums here and still look for escorts but I've gotten more selective over time.
By no means am I a newbie, I have been with over 1000 working girls, and have had great times and not so great times. I have played the game all over the world.
Just a few words for thought.
Never get too close to these girls.
First off 99.9% of the time they don't care about us, they only care about our money. As soon as you walk out the door you are promptly forgotten.
No you are not going to pull them out of the business and "save them" Does that happen, sure, but like probably about 1% of the time, and a good chance she won't be loyal to you.
Just because you see several great reviews on a girl does not mean you will have a great experience as well. These girls are human, not fuck machines as some may think. They have up days, down days. They may find one client sick, ugly and disgusting and just want to get it over as fast as possible and yet the next client may be super hot and attractive to her and push all her buttons. I got great service from a really hot 19 yo last year whilst my buddy got shit (ok hes tipping the scales at 400+ #) but still get my grift?
For the most part these girls are doing this because they may have limited other options, so even if your date goes south just accept it as that's the way the hobby goes sometimes.
Deals that are TGTBT are!
Now this is just me. But. Never transport a girl in your car, OR do a cardate. If things go south or you get caught with her by the popo, your problems will be A LOT worse. Not telling anyone how to play, but getting busted in a sting once (yes it sent my life in a direction I am still trying to recover from, it can and will destroy your life-if anyone wants details DM me).
Incalls to YOUR location are safest but that will likely add in complexity or expense. Its about control of the environment.
Stick with girls that have a good history of verifiable reviews, yea that can be tricky as it can be a transient job for some girls.
Back to my first point. Back in 2019, I saw a girl that was TGTBT, just 19 very petite and allowed a full open menu (no greek-but I don't do that anyway). Short light brown hair, blue eyes, cute freckles a true GND experience. Service was top notch. I was seeing her "professionally" 2 x a week for six months. During that time I did start to get closer to her, we exchanged real names, and I eventually met her at her apartment which was kinda fun because we had to be careful she still lived with her mom so there was some sneaking around for that.
One night she called me at 2 am I first ignored her call but she was psycho dialing me every minute, I eventually answered. She was crying hysterically and said she had a bad date and she had gotten beaten up and was begging me for a ride. I reluctantly dragged my ass out of bed to go get her. When I got her she was beat but not too bad, I think it destroyed her soul more than anything. I told her we need to go to the hospital and get you checked but she refused stating they would call the police (yea they would) and she just didn't want to deal with it, she did not want to go home so we got a Motel 6 for the rest of the night. She cuddled next to me and held on like I was going to get swept away by the wind.
That was her last professional date ever, and although it would have been easy for me to close the deal that night and get a freebee I didn't, I just held her and comforted her the best I could.
Thats where our "non professional" relationship began, we would talk several times a week, meet for lunches etc. Over time she shared more of her story and she did have a shitty life growing up, she was raped by her moms boyfriend at 13, her mom did little to protect her over the yeas. She did grow up in poverty (their apartment was in a real bad part of town), and always seemed to struggle.
She had trouble getting a job and keeping one, despite my doing a resume for her and coaching her on job interviews and work ethics, she never seemed to catch on.
Now this is the "too close part" Over the next 4 years she would message me begging for money, nothing like "I need $300" always like $5-$25 bucks to eat or get a drink, sometimes the big head would win but often my heart went out to her because I knew of her struggles and would eventually give in sometimes. Shed call me for rides all over, and yes I knew she was taking advantage of me because she knew that I did have a soft spot for her and yes part of me did want to rescue her and keep her for myself. She got hard into drugs and so I was trying my best to distance myself from her. But over the 4 years I parted with close to $4000 in small increments. In reality I thin she probably saw me as a middle aged fat old mad (I was 54 when we met and started our professional and non professional relationship), but I always had trouble saying a hard NO to her, often I would just ignore her text.
In closing about a year ago she disclosed to me she had cervical cancer and watched her deteriorate rapidly. She passed away about two months ago and I took it HARD, it was like I really did lose a girl friend that I cared about and loved. Heck some days Ill just start talking like I am talking to her.
Finally don't get fully consumed in the hobby, a good buddy of mine has and he is WELL into 6 figures over the years. We all hobby for one reason or another, for me it was always a lack of love from females, their companionship and an otherwise empty life.
The first SW I picked up and the first massage parlor I went to was in 1984 when I was living in SoCal. 40 years later here I am. I wished I kept a journal all these years. I suppose if I looked back on forum posts that would be a bit of a journal. I'll probably sit down and add something to this as I've been in and out of relationships with sex workers over the years. Just wanted to postcard say I appreciate the thoughts of those posting.
I went through all 15 pages of posts and I found it necessary to have read all the perspectives to keep in mind during my monger journey. I've been at it for a year. Off and on AMPs for a few months. But I've been seeing K-girls for 6 months now.
Escorts are a tool. But you must understand why you're using and what are the drawbacks to using it.
My best nugget to drop for a newbie is:
She's a human being. She's somebody's daughter, sister, mother, and friend. Most importantly, this is her job. Let her do her job and she'll let you do yours. What's your job? To be a respectful customer. By respectful, I mean be socially aware and pay attention to her response. Have compassion and try to understand where's at in that very moment. Yes, have your fun and get your fantasies fulfilled, as long as it's within her boundaries. Keep escorts in the Escorts category of your heart and mind. You wouldn't have your pet cat do your taxes. You wouldn't have your barber give you a full body massage. So don't make an escort become something she's not. Because you will set yourself for a world of pain if you do. Exceptions do not disprove the rule.
This is an unconventional perspective, but IF I had a daughter that I did my best to raise, but she still had to resort to this line of work. How would I want those customers to conduct themselves when they see her? THAT is how I would aim to conduct myself when with an escort.
It's ok to love wh*res but it's not ok to fall in love with wh*res.
The one that I have been with the last couple of days we talking to her dad on the phone while on my deck. I could hear some of the conversation. Later she made the comment that "At least my dad is leaving me alone", I told her that it sounded like he was just concerned with her well being and wanted the best for her. I qualified it that "of course, I don't know your history" but tried to paint the guy in a positive light for her to see a different perspective.
Thank you I didn't even notice that was full, clear.
Darth.
As I have an ex-agency girl that sooo many of you would recognize asleep in my bed at this moment as I type this, I can completely relate. We first saw each other years ago, connected on social media and I could see that she almost Always checked out my stories, and I would occasionally send her funny little things too. Started seeing each other towards the end of last fall but it was spotty. Then she went through some things and we got a little closer. Not the first one that I have developed some level of relationship with either but this one is probably a little deeper then a couple of the others. As she was going through a tough time this winter, it was more of a long distance thing with us doing FT and texting. However talked a lot of big picture stuff. Lots of balls in the air and I doubt I am the only one she has seen in the last couple of weeks too. Good luck is all I can say.
I keep in touch with my SB who had to cut me off after her engagement. We saw each other for a couple years and it's difficult to not get attached. I'm not remotely upset, but I could see how some could let this get out of hand. Somewhere in the back of my mind I'm waiting for her new relationship to flounder, but I wish her the best.
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