What I learned as a Monger for the past 2 years. Good read for Newbies

[Darth Cosmos]

By no means am I a newbie, I have been with over 1000 working girls, and have had great times and not so great times. I have played the game all over the world.

Just a few words for thought.

Never get too close to these girls.

First off 99.9% of the time they don't care about us, they only care about our money. As soon as you walk out the door you are promptly forgotten.

No you are not going to pull them out of the business and "save them" Does that happen, sure, but like probably about 1% of the time, and a good chance she won't be loyal to you.

Just because you see several great reviews on a girl does not mean you will have a great experience as well. These girls are human, not fuck machines as some may think. They have up days, down days. They may find one client sick, ugly and disgusting and just want to get it over as fast as possible and yet the next client may be super hot and attractive to her and push all her buttons. I got great service from a really hot 19 yo last year whilst my buddy got shit (ok hes tipping the scales at 400+ #) but still get my grift?

For the most part these girls are doing this because they may have limited other options, so even if your date goes south just accept it as that's the way the hobby goes sometimes.

Deals that are TGTBT are!

Now this is just me. But. Never transport a girl in your car, OR do a cardate. If things go south or you get caught with her by the popo, your problems will be A LOT worse. Not telling anyone how to play, but getting busted in a sting once (yes it sent my life in a direction I am still trying to recover from, it can and will destroy your life-if anyone wants details DM me).

Incalls to YOUR location are safest but that will likely add in complexity or expense. Its about control of the environment.

Stick with girls that have a good history of verifiable reviews, yea that can be tricky as it can be a transient job for some girls.

Back to my first point. Back in 2019, I saw a girl that was TGTBT, just 19 very petite and allowed a full open menu (no greek-but I don't do that anyway). Short light brown hair, blue eyes, cute freckles a true GND experience. Service was top notch. I was seeing her "professionally" 2 x a week for six months. During that time I did start to get closer to her, we exchanged real names, and I eventually met her at her apartment which was kinda fun because we had to be careful she still lived with her mom so there was some sneaking around for that.

One night she called me at 2 am I first ignored her call but she was psycho dialing me every minute, I eventually answered. She was crying hysterically and said she had a bad date and she had gotten beaten up and was begging me for a ride. I reluctantly dragged my ass out of bed to go get her. When I got her she was beat but not too bad, I think it destroyed her soul more than anything. I told her we need to go to the hospital and get you checked but she refused stating they would call the police (yea they would) and she just didn't want to deal with it, she did not want to go home so we got a Motel 6 for the rest of the night. She cuddled next to me and held on like I was going to get swept away by the wind.

That was her last professional date ever, and although it would have been easy for me to close the deal that night and get a freebee I didn't, I just held her and comforted her the best I could.

Thats where our "non professional" relationship began, we would talk several times a week, meet for lunches etc. Over time she shared more of her story and she did have a shitty life growing up, she was raped by her moms boyfriend at 13, her mom did little to protect her over the yeas. She did grow up in poverty (their apartment was in a real bad part of town), and always seemed to struggle.

She had trouble getting a job and keeping one, despite my doing a resume for her and coaching her on job interviews and work ethics, she never seemed to catch on.

Now this is the "too close part" Over the next 4 years she would message me begging for money, nothing like "I need $300" always like $5-$25 bucks to eat or get a drink, sometimes the big head would win but often my heart went out to her because I knew of her struggles and would eventually give in sometimes. Shed call me for rides all over, and yes I knew she was taking advantage of me because she knew that I did have a soft spot for her and yes part of me did want to rescue her and keep her for myself. She got hard into drugs and so I was trying my best to distance myself from her. But over the 4 years I parted with close to $4000 in small increments. In reality I thin she probably saw me as a middle aged fat old mad (I was 54 when we met and started our professional and non professional relationship), but I always had trouble saying a hard NO to her, often I would just ignore her text.

In closing about a year ago she disclosed to me she had cervical cancer and watched her deteriorate rapidly. She passed away about two months ago and I took it HARD, it was like I really did lose a girl friend that I cared about and loved. Heck some days Ill just start talking like I am talking to her.

Finally don't get fully consumed in the hobby, a good buddy of mine has and he is WELL into 6 figures over the years. We all hobby for one reason or another, for me it was always a lack of love from females, their companionship and an otherwise empty life.

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Wow, what an amazing story, well maybe I'm naïve or whatever, but here's my two cents. There's nothing wrong with loving a human being, no matter what area of life they're in no matter what the situation of the circumstances is. Love always wins, and love is always worth it. Even if it sucks and it hurts.

It was a major blessing for you to be in her life, she went through that, even if it was just five bucks here or 20 bucks there.

I appreciate the words of wisdom, and I have a soft heart, always I fall in love with these girls or feel sorry for them. So thanks for sharing your heart with me, and I'll definitely guard my heart and be extra careful.

That being said, whenever in doubt whenever I can, I always choose the path of love. Frankly, that's how I got into this hobby in the first place.

If everyone's got something wrong with them, well the thing I have wrong with me is I have too much love. Overflowing, and I want to share it with everyone.

Can't help it and this is one of the ways I express it.

Anyway, just my thoughts, for whatever they worth.

Thanks again for sharing your story. Hope it all works out for you psychologically.

Don't feel bad. This is a complicated situation. Sounds to me like you did the right thing.

Peace and Love.

Darth.

[SfoDavid67]

By no means am I a newbie, I have been with over 1000 working girls, and have had great times and not so great times. I have played the game all over the world.

Just a few words for thought.

Never get too close to these girls.

First off 99.9% of the time they don't care about us, they only care about our money. As soon as you walk out the door you are promptly forgotten.

No you are not going to pull them out of the business and "save them" Does that happen, sure, but like probably about 1% of the time, and a good chance she won't be loyal to you.

Just because you see several great reviews on a girl does not mean you will have a great experience as well. These girls are human, not fuck machines as some may think. They have up days, down days. They may find one client sick, ugly and disgusting and just want to get it over as fast as possible and yet the next client may be super hot and attractive to her and push all her buttons. I got great service from a really hot 19 yo last year whilst my buddy got shit (ok hes tipping the scales at 400+ #) but still get my grift?

For the most part these girls are doing this because they may have limited other options, so even if your date goes south just accept it as that's the way the hobby goes sometimes.

Deals that are TGTBT are!

Now this is just me. But. Never transport a girl in your car, OR do a cardate. If things go south or you get caught with her by the popo, your problems will be A LOT worse. Not telling anyone how to play, but getting busted in a sting once (yes it sent my life in a direction I am still trying to recover from, it can and will destroy your life-if anyone wants details DM me).

Incalls to YOUR location are safest but that will likely add in complexity or expense. Its about control of the environment.

Stick with girls that have a good history of verifiable reviews, yea that can be tricky as it can be a transient job for some girls.

Back to my first point. Back in 2019, I saw a girl that was TGTBT, just 19 very petite and allowed a full open menu (no greek-but I don't do that anyway). Short light brown hair, blue eyes, cute freckles a true GND experience. Service was top notch. I was seeing her "professionally" 2 x a week for six months. During that time I did start to get closer to her, we exchanged real names, and I eventually met her at her apartment which was kinda fun because we had to be careful she still lived with her mom so there was some sneaking around for that.

One night she called me at 2 am I first ignored her call but she was psycho dialing me every minute, I eventually answered. She was crying hysterically and said she had a bad date and she had gotten beaten up and was begging me for a ride. I reluctantly dragged my ass out of bed to go get her. When I got her she was beat but not too bad, I think it destroyed her soul more than anything. I told her we need to go to the hospital and get you checked but she refused stating they would call the police (yea they would) and she just didn't want to deal with it, she did not want to go home so we got a Motel 6 for the rest of the night. She cuddled next to me and held on like I was going to get swept away by the wind.

That was her last professional date ever, and although it would have been easy for me to close the deal that night and get a freebee I didn't, I just held her and comforted her the best I could.

Thats where our "non professional" relationship began, we would talk several times a week, meet for lunches etc. Over time she shared more of her story and she did have a shitty life growing up, she was raped by her moms boyfriend at 13, her mom did little to protect her over the yeas. She did grow up in poverty (their apartment was in a real bad part of town), and always seemed to struggle.

She had trouble getting a job and keeping one, despite my doing a resume for her and coaching her on job interviews and work ethics, she never seemed to catch on.

Now this is the "too close part" Over the next 4 years she would message me begging for money, nothing like "I need $300" always like $5-$25 bucks to eat or get a drink, sometimes the big head would win but often my heart went out to her because I knew of her struggles and would eventually give in sometimes. Shed call me for rides all over, and yes I knew she was taking advantage of me because she knew that I did have a soft spot for her and yes part of me did want to rescue her and keep her for myself. She got hard into drugs and so I was trying my best to distance myself from her. But over the 4 years I parted with close to $4000 in small increments. In reality I thin she probably saw me as a middle aged fat old mad (I was 54 when we met and started our professional and non professional relationship), but I always had trouble saying a hard NO to her, often I would just ignore her text.

In closing about a year ago she disclosed to me she had cervical cancer and watched her deteriorate rapidly. She passed away about two months ago and I took it HARD, it was like I really did lose a girl friend that I cared about and loved. Heck some days Ill just start talking like I am talking to her.

Finally don't get fully consumed in the hobby, a good buddy of mine has and he is WELL into 6 figures over the years. We all hobby for one reason or another, for me it was always a lack of love from females, their companionship and an otherwise empty life.

[RogerOver]

Oh my, this is so true.

I am unfortunately experiencing this right now. With a person whom I won't mention, but they are consuming my every mind, and every moment of my thought is going toward them.

I'm an experienced monger, never had this issue before, in over 20 years.

I think what I need to do is intentionally not see her anymore right? To break the feeling. Go see a bunch of other girls instead?

I was totally not expecting this..

Compartmentalizing is so important to your mental health.

This just seems so crazy to me. I'm not judging, but I can't imagine developing feelings for these hookers that would upset me to this level. Sure, I have an ATF or two that I'm fairly playful and affectionate with, but nothing that wouldn't make me block and move on in a second if I needed to.

At any rate, time and distance heals. I can only think of a single girlfriend that really hurt after the breakup, and that was 25 years ago. I think about her now and wonder what all the fuss was about. Hope you get your bearings.

[Darth Cosmos]

Hey Darth. Can you clear your messages? Going through the same thing.

Thank you I didn't even notice that was full, clear.

Darth.

[BbwConnosseur]

Oh my, this is so true.

I am unfortunately experiencing this right now. With a person whom I won't mention, but they are consuming my every mind, and every moment of my thought is going toward them.

I'm an experienced monger, never had this issue before, in over 20 years.

I think what I need to do is intentionally not see her anymore right? To break the feeling. Go see a bunch of other girls instead?.

How long have you been seeing her, if you don't mind me asking? Also, is there a main subject in the picture, I. E. Wife / girlfriend?

[Svendd]

Oh my, this is so true.

I am unfortunately experiencing this right now. With a person whom I won't mention, but they are consuming my every mind, and every moment of my thought is going toward them.

I'm an experienced monger, never had this issue before, in over 20 years.

I think what I need to do is intentionally not see her anymore right? To break the feeling. Go see a bunch of other girls instead?

I was totally not expecting this.

Darth.

Hey Darth. Can you clear your messages? Going through the same thing.

[CuriousVaMan]

Compartmentalizing is so important to your mental health.

Oh my, this is so true.

I am unfortunately experiencing this right now. With a person whom I won't mention, but they are consuming my every mind, and every moment of my thought is going toward them.

I'm an experienced monger, never had this issue before, in over 20 years.

I think what I need to do is intentionally not see her anymore right? To break the feeling. Go see a bunch of other girls instead?

I was totally not expecting this.

Darth.

[Darth Cosmos]

I went through all 15 pages of posts and I found it necessary to have read all the perspectives to keep in mind during my monger journey. I've been at it for a year. Off and on AMPs for a few months. But I've been seeing K-girls for 6 months now.

Escorts are a tool. But you must understand why you're using and what are the drawbacks to using it.

My best nugget to drop for a newbie is:

She's a human being. She's somebody's daughter, sister, mother, and friend. Most importantly, this is her job. Let her do her job and she'll let you do yours. What's your job? To be a respectful customer. By respectful, I mean be socially aware and pay attention to her response. Have compassion and try to understand where's at in that very moment. Yes, have your fun and get your fantasies fulfilled, as long as it's within her boundaries. Keep escorts in the Escorts category of your heart and mind. You wouldn't have your pet cat do your taxes. You wouldn't have your barber give you a full body massage. So don't make an escort become something she's not. Because you will set yourself for a world of pain if you do. Exceptions do not disprove the rule.

This is an unconventional perspective, but IF I had a daughter that I did my best to raise, but she still had to resort to this line of work. How would I want those customers to conduct themselves when they see her? THAT is how I would aim to conduct myself when with an escort.

It's ok to love wh*res but it's not ok to fall in love with wh*res.

Oh my, this is so true.

I am unfortunately experiencing this right now. With a person whom I won't mention, but they are consuming my every mind, and every moment of my thought is going toward them.

I'm an experienced monger, never had this issue before, in over 20 years.

I think what I need to do is intentionally not see her anymore right? To break the feeling. Go see a bunch of other girls instead?

I was totally not expecting this.

Darth.

[StrongerMonger]

I went through all 15 pages of posts and I found it necessary to have read all the perspectives to keep in mind during my monger journey. I've been at it for a year. Off and on AMPs for a few months. But I've been seeing K-girls for 6 months now.

Escorts are a tool. But you must understand why you're using and what are the drawbacks to using it.

My best nugget to drop for a newbie is:

She's a human being. She's somebody's daughter, sister, mother, and friend. Most importantly, this is her job. Let her do her job and she'll let you do yours. What's your job? To be a respectful customer. By respectful, I mean be socially aware and pay attention to her response. Have compassion and try to understand where's at in that very moment. Yes, have your fun and get your fantasies fulfilled, as long as it's within her boundaries. Keep escorts in the Escorts category of your heart and mind. You wouldn't have your pet cat do your taxes. You wouldn't have your barber give you a full body massage. So don't make an escort become something she's not. Because you will set yourself for a world of pain if you do. Exceptions do not disprove the rule.

This is an unconventional perspective, but IF I had a daughter that I did my best to raise, but she still had to resort to this line of work. How would I want those customers to conduct themselves when they see her? THAT is how I would aim to conduct myself when with an escort.

It's ok to love wh*res but it's not ok to fall in love with wh*res.

[Illinois Guy 7]

So I have a point, but I mainly post here because my experience was so awesome and I have nobody to tell it to. I can't even review the lady as she broke agency rules.

In my travels, I had 3 agency visits with a Korean lady who could best be described as pornstar Kianna Dior at age 30.34 E-25-34, stacked and a fabulous ass. I mean very close resemblance to Kianna except I am sure her perfect boobs are natural. One strange vibe from my 3rd visit- she already counted the money for the hour in the envelope, no extra, but when the moment came to suit up, she asked "Okay, no condom?" Yeah, I caved in despite knowing there's an upcharge, and I paid a hondo extra afterward, but she didn't know I had the money on me. Well, I love her body and we hit it off.

That led to talk. I told her I would be in her town months later in July for a camping trip with a one-day hotel stay the Wednesday before and the Wednesday after camping. She shared her text number, said she would be in town, let her know and we can meet. She told me the agency to get verified (and I did get verified).

So my Wednesday arrived and I got in late. She said she would meet me at 10 am on Thursday. She further said I could skip the agency and deal direct with her. Okay with me. Thursday was great. We had a great GFE, great oral give and take, DFK, bare full service. AWESOME. It was a bit rushed as check-out was 11 am, and I had friends to meet. I even gave her a ride afterward. She told me she had never worked outside an agency and had never met anyone at an outcall hotel. I believe that's true.

We had never talked money at all. I gave her 500 and she was thrilled, no sharing with an agent. All was great. She agreed to meet me Wednesday evening upon the end of my camping trip. Again, no talk of money.

Wednesday, she drove over. When all was over, it was the greatest sex of my life. As an older guy, I go one shot because the recovery time is long. I am sure she had some real O's in there, and was almost as thrilled as I was. There was Russian, cock worship, body worship of her magnificence, lots of DFK, many positions. She showered and I got dressed after a great session. She said "Don't need clothes now. " I told her how I wasn't ready for round two. "We have time. " She took my clothes off.

So we played around like sleepy lovers and had another round eventually and she washed up again. Still, she laid down and wasn't leaving. We were now into a third hour. I decided I better clear this up. "Let's settle up. " I said "This was all so fantastic, and while I budgeted 500 for our visit, I have some money left and feel I should give you that too. " I gave her 680. She says "680 for all night?" It's wasn't a happy question. "Hey, I never said all night. I was getting dressed after one hour. We really needed to talk ahead of time. ".

She wasn't mad because she knew I was right. She didn't stay longer either. We seemed to end on a good note despite the misunderstanding. I wonder that she just hoped I would come up with more like that 3rd agency visit.

This could have gone really bad if a pimp showed up or she went crazy on me. I offered to Zelle her more later, but she said no, I am glad. It could have ended bad for her as I really didn't expect to shell out so much. Be careful out there. Discuss stuff clearly.

[SlightlyOcd]

I'm warning you, falling in love is like catching a cold, you can catch it anywhere. I'm on the currently on the phone right now with a mental health clinic discussing a possible long term stay.

Good luck man. Many hazards to this indulgence.

[Sukebe3]

I'm warning you, falling in love is like catching a cold, you can catch it anywhere. I'm on the currently on the phone right now with a mental health clinic discussing a possible long term stay.

[George Stark]

Re: Macie:

She also apparently only sees white men. So all my fellow POC don't even bother LOL.

If this is true, it's new. I PMd last fall with a black member was regular with her at the time.

[Illinois Guy 7]

That's her. While a good deal, don't particularly find her attractive at all. She's weird. Looks like her eyelids are glued shut. Has an odd voice and seemed to be on something both times I've seen her. Doesn't react much. Basically a sex doll with weird quirks.

I won't be her "White Knight" on this forum, but she's not 'on something. ' That wouldn't go well for her if she was high or otherwise under the influence. The person behind Macie seems to channel Macie to do what she does, so she's not herself. It's probably just as weird as being high until you get used to it. And YMMV on attractiveness. I disagree, but I hope most at least agree she has a hot bod.

[BringBackBp]

That's her. While a good deal, don't particularly find her attractive at all. She's weird. Looks like her eyelids are glued shut. Has an odd voice and seemed to be on something both times I've seen her. Doesn't react much. Basically a sex doll with weird quirks.

She also apparently only sees white men. So all my fellow POC don't even bother LOL.