"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**Peter Pan** · 07-08-25 23:00

Originally Posted by Modukolo123 [View Original Post]

Hey everyone,

I'm still relatively new to the sugar lifestyle, but I wanted to get a sense of how others here view the current PPM landscape, particularly when it comes to what different types of SBs typically expect or accept.

From my limited experience so far, I've noticed a pattern, primarily ATL: most women who are willing to settle for $300 PPM or less tend to fall into a few categories high-volume daters, single moms in their 30's and above, or younger women who may not be conventionally attractive or seem mainly focused on quick cash with little attention to the overall experience or connection.

On the flip side, the more stunning or "Instagram-model type" girls I've interacted with tend to scoff at anything under $450- $500 PPM, with many asking for significantly more, and some not even entertaining PPM at all, preferring allowances or arrangement-based support.

I understand everyone's experience can vary a lot depending on expectations and the dynamics of the relationship, so I'm curious:

What's your experience been like in terms of the typical PPM rates vs. The quality and type of SB you've encountered?

Do you find the same correlation, or is it different for you?

Some sub-reddits call SDs offering anything less than 500 JOHN.

Looking forward to hearing your insights.

So I posted before and there are some who will jump and say no you can get SBs for less, you need to have a game.

Etc. There is some truth that and it's few and far in between. But what you wrote above in generally accurate and has been my experience as well.

But again 10 years ago it was a diff story, you are drilling into a hot college while girl for 300.

Or 350 easily. I have done that too, but what you described above is the current state of affairs generally speaking, there are always exceptions.

**TravelinSD** · 07-08-25 20:35

Is anyone else amazed at the number of "Trans-friendly" profiles there are lately? It's scary how good some of them look, causing me to actually click on the profile. I have a weakness for tall ladies (I've been fortunate enough to find a couple of great 6 foot plus real ladies on the site). Therefore, I'm always suspect of the profiles of anyone over 5'10". Still, I wish Seeking would make a separate category for them. It would save some time.

**MSmith3034** · 07-08-25 20:29

Little head lost that one too. She's been telling the same story for years. Needs financial help, has a kid, weekends only, has to arrange a nanny etc. All quite possible details but I quickly moved on and am surprised she's still peddling the same wares after all this time.

Originally Posted by CrazyRocket [View Original Post]

Nice looking girl with bubbly ass that would bring joy to your dreams, so I messaged her dead on and asked to connect via text. Immediately sent a spicy selfie and moved to talk about owing to nanny and being unable to meet. Asking for online until the weekend so she can book nanny to meet up.

Little head lost on this one and I did not proceed. I left the door open if she decides to continue without online / deposit bs. However, I feel there are way many dudes out there willing to pay for "online" that would never turn into an in-person meet, so why would the girls bother?

Some girls have straight bat-shit crazy expectation like "passport ready travel" etc. Sure, let me get my private jet to your doorstep. Do they really think a man with that much wealth would bother with Seeking?

Geez man.

**CrazyRocket** · 07-08-25 17:24

Nice looking girl with bubbly ass that would bring joy to your dreams, so I messaged her dead on and asked to connect via text. Immediately sent a spicy selfie and moved to talk about owing to nanny and being unable to meet. Asking for online until the weekend so she can book nanny to meet up.

Little head lost on this one and I did not proceed. I left the door open if she decides to continue without online / deposit bs. However, I feel there are way many dudes out there willing to pay for "online" that would never turn into an in-person meet, so why would the girls bother?

Some girls have straight bat-shit crazy expectation like "passport ready travel" etc. Sure, let me get my private jet to your doorstep. Do they really think a man with that much wealth would bother with Seeking?

Geez man.

**Modukolo123** · 07-08-25 15:21

Hey everyone,

I'm still relatively new to the sugar lifestyle, but I wanted to get a sense of how others here view the current PPM landscape, particularly when it comes to what different types of SBs typically expect or accept.

From my limited experience so far, I've noticed a pattern, primarily ATL: most women who are willing to settle for $300 PPM or less tend to fall into a few categories — high-volume daters, single moms in their 30's and above, or younger women who may not be conventionally attractive or seem mainly focused on quick cash with little attention to the overall experience or connection.

On the flip side, the more stunning or "Instagram-model type" girls I've interacted with tend to scoff at anything under $450- $500 PPM, with many asking for significantly more, and some not even entertaining PPM at all, preferring allowances or arrangement-based support.

I understand everyone's experience can vary a lot depending on expectations and the dynamics of the relationship, so I'm curious:

What's your experience been like in terms of the typical PPM rates vs. The quality and type of SB you've encountered?

Do you find the same correlation, or is it different for you?

Some sub-reddits call SDs offering anything less than 500 JOHN.

Looking forward to hearing your insights.

**CrazyRocket** · 07-07-25 10:16

Has anyone met with Apollo? Curious to see if GPS or not.

I don't have the link to her profile but you've probably seen her pop up in your search results. 18-23 range. She is my type and we have common hobbies, so I sent a cheesy pick up line. Nothing NSFW. Got blocked immediately LOL. To be fair, my profile was blank, but other girls were cool with it and they bring it up after a few exchanges instead of blocking outright. Gave me GPS vibes. Maybe I dodged a bullet there.

If you have experience with Slavic girls, you know they can drain your balls and wallet proportionately LOL. I was willing to take the risk but well.

**FarFarAway** · 07-07-25 00:03

Originally Posted by JGrey77 [View Original Post]

We constantly remind guys no money up front but here I am. Meet for smoothies Fri but she wasn't "prepared" for anything more. Said we'd meet at her place Sun. (Her hosting). Comms good all Sat. "Hey, let's go get pedi's" Sun am I had stuff to do, so offered to pay for hers. $and change for that and Uber. She offered to take that out of our ppm later that day. YESSS, I knooow. My instincts were there just chose to roll the dice.

Of course she ghosted. Blocked me on SA or deleted her profile. Went by Hannah for me but probably changes every couple weeks.

Current hair is straight with bangs. Claims to be a singer.

YK, I spend some time / effort on every POT and SB trying to track down their personal info. I've gotten pretty good at it. I have always felt it is not too useful dealing w / a girl, unless she gets your personal info and threatens to unmask you. You have mutually assured destruction. I just keep it in my back pocket, just in case.

However, I can see a use for that now. Her name, her family's names, etc. If a girl did scam you, you could scare the crap out of her with a message that included some of the info that you know. Perhaps dissuade her from doing it to other guys (sort of taking one for the team). Personally, I've never been ripped off that way, so I haven't realized the utility of the personal info.

**JGrey77** · 07-06-25 23:45

We constantly remind guys no money up front but here I am. Meet for smoothies Fri but she wasn't "prepared" for anything more. Said we'd meet at her place Sun. (Her hosting). Comms good all Sat. "Hey, let's go get pedi's" Sun am I had stuff to do, so offered to pay for hers. $and change for that and Uber. She offered to take that out of our ppm later that day. YESSS, I knooow. My instincts were there just chose to roll the dice.

Of course she ghosted. Blocked me on SA or deleted her profile. Went by Hannah for me but probably changes every couple weeks.

Current hair is straight with bangs. Claims to be a singer.

**Peter Pan** · 07-06-25 15:05

Originally Posted by MilfHunter818 [View Original Post]

I've tried my best opening line that usually gets a laugh at least but nothing, sent two more messages and she's opened and read them but still nothing. Has she responded to you?

Yes she responded. But then that message seemed like a copy paste generic message sent to others also!

Then I gave up but was curious if any one here might have had any luck.

**MilfHunter818** · 07-06-25 14:55

Originally Posted by PeterPan [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...0-4e1cfda37ad6

Or met her?

I've tried my best opening line that usually gets a laugh at least but nothing, sent two more messages and she's opened and read them but still nothing. Has she responded to you?

**Peter Pan** · 07-05-25 19:43

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...0-4e1cfda37ad6

Or met her?

**DArrow404** · 07-02-25 18:48

Originally Posted by ReffingMan94 [View Original Post]

Hey guys, just started chatting with this babe and curious if anyone has reviews of her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...c-9f79d84f10ac

She's been reviewed before but might have changed her name. If I remember correctly, she's ok. Not terrible but not great either.

**FarFarAway** · 07-02-25 00:27

Originally Posted by BigPun [View Original Post]

This happened to me but it ended up turning out great. Ended up getting together and hitting it for free, she would call and just want a quick fuck. She found a dude she started dating but we were still playing behind the scenes. Eventually she moved to LA. Ultimately it worked out great for me, I even got to play with one of her friends. I wouldn't assume it always goes bad. Not sure your specific situation but it could work out fine too.

So, hey, since I am in southern California, I'd love to have info about your ex, see if I can connect w / her.

**Big Pun** · 07-01-25 13:22

Originally Posted by MatchesM [View Original Post]

SB wants to "hang out" outside for meetups and now I'm conflicted, because the session, our schedule, and expectations have been great so far, but now I'm thinking she wants more. And I don't not whatsoever and that was clear in the beginning, however we have been meeting up for about a year now. Last few meetups she has been "sweet talking" but I just always write it off as part of the game.

Also, I have a game warden at home, so my big head is telling me to cut it off now, but the other head is saying just ignore her request don't bring it up and keep the status quo.

The reason I went the SB route and dropped FWBs is for this very reason. We will be doing our thing, and they catch feeling or what more outside of our scheduled time.

Anyone else have this happen? How did you handle it?

This happened to me but it ended up turning out great. Ended up getting together and hitting it for free, she would call and just want a quick fuck. She found a dude she started dating but we were still playing behind the scenes. Eventually she moved to LA. Ultimately it worked out great for me, I even got to play with one of her friends. I wouldn't assume it always goes bad. Not sure your specific situation but it could work out fine too.

**2me4Looking2** · 06-29-25 15:00

Originally Posted by BigGulps [View Original Post]

Are women on seeking with a Premium label more likely to be more towards the Professional side of things?

I'm not sure if it changed but they used to be able to get premium if they had a college email address which I don't think is that hard to get around.