Nuru Shops and Independents

[CheepMoney]

Just had a pretty awful experience at a spa known on this forum. Provider was not new to the industry either, so I expect her to take her job more seriously.

At the end of the session I kind of gave up on trying to finish and said I was done. Got somewhat cleaned up, dressed up and took back my $$ that I left on the counter explaining that it was one of the worst experiences I have had at a spa. A spa I have visited multiple times with another provider and had great success. I don't want to start any trouble or drama, but I also want to get my money's worth and respect for my time, and my decision to leave a relatively generous tip up front before the provider walks in. As I was leaving I was getting cussed out in Vietnamese. Got death threats via a personal number that even had a collar I'd. I'm not concerned that any of it was serious, but it really makes me question their attitude and understanding of their position. I could easily report location, number and name. I don't plan to for the longevity of the industry though.

Optional read on my experience below: -May also add context for those responding.

Booked for an hour with a provider I have not seen before (but have seen on the roster for a long time), got undressed and left $$ on the counter. Generally $ 60 is the norm at this spa, but I like to leave $$ for the benefit of both provider and client. I wasn't terribly happy with how she looked, looks to be late 30's to early 40's and a little heavy, but you win some lose some and she wasn't a granny so it was fine I suppose. She offered that she provides nuru so I was quite excited. Unfortunately it ended up being about 40 minutes on my stomach with at least 3 bottles of lotion dumped on my body with one hand just lathering it in no order. It goes from right leg to left shoulder to left arm to right leg, etc. Felt like someone with adhd applying suntan lotion on my back. There were several periods of her just facing the steamer on her phone, and I know she was on her phone with one hand for much of the lotion lathering. I still just layed there hoping that the flip side was going to be good. Finally after what felt like forever, I was asked to flip over. No teasing, no sensuality, no nails dancing on my sides, nothing. Fine. I flip and after another sporadic lotion spread around my legs arms and chest, she *finally* takes her dress off and starts jack hammering. After a few minutes I can see through my squinting she's rolling her eyes. I really wanted to just finish and get it over with but I just got limp and called it off.

I would like to think that I was giving many chances and had alot of patience, but it really just was not going to happen. I don't have money to throw around, so I claim my money and leave to take my business elsewhere. Its not like I got all my money back or anything, I still let the spa keep the house fee, since that was fair for them to keep. The tip was undeserved in my option.

Has anyone else had similar experiences, or would handle it differently? I'd like to hear other opinions to either confirm my judgement or learn from it. Thanks for reading yall.

Damn bro I sure hope it wasn't Sherry but from the discretion doesn't seem like it LOL, she gutted me twice & definitely should of done what you did on taking my $ back in the second encounter. Fool me once shame on you, twice definitely was on me. Unfortunately we just got to share the info and hope others don't make the same mistake. In terms of overall massage, service & exp personality all in one package is pretty hard to find. We all have different preferences on personality, looks & services. But one that should never be shorthanded is service. If I paid for 45 min I best believe if they are late or end the session early I will not give them a second chance unless they had something traffic or gave me a really good session, but being punctual is a huge deal for me. We can all tell who at least gives effort on the legit massage or not. For me the massage is equally as important. The flip now that's YMMV but obviously that's more personal preference on extras.

However I figured if I did what you did on taking my $ the calls of threats and etc is something pretty common within the industry. You probably ticked them off a lot for them to escalate to that level. Total lack of professionalism & business bad on the other end we are all struggling in this economy but still have some decency like we pay a premium price I want to be treated like a king service, however most others would agree " good service" is dying and just trying to make a quick buck, GPS older providers aging out, etc is killing this hobby for the most of us. You could rat them out but for both parties sake theres no winner and just have to accept the L on time / money and just hope they keep losing customers. If you can't disclose the provider where was the spa you visited?

[Tokubetsu]

Just had a pretty awful experience at a spa known on this forum. Provider was not new to the industry either, so I expect her to take her job more seriously.

At the end of the session I kind of gave up on trying to finish and said I was done. Got somewhat cleaned up, dressed up and took back my $$ that I left on the counter explaining that it was one of the worst experiences I have had at a spa. A spa I have visited multiple times with another provider and had great success. I don't want to start any trouble or drama, but I also want to get my money's worth and respect for my time, and my decision to leave a relatively generous tip up front before the provider walks in. As I was leaving I was getting cussed out in Vietnamese. Got death threats via a personal number that even had a collar I'd. I'm not concerned that any of it was serious, but it really makes me question their attitude and understanding of their position. I could easily report location, number and name. I don't plan to for the longevity of the industry though.

Optional read on my experience below: -May also add context for those responding.

Booked for an hour with a provider I have not seen before (but have seen on the roster for a long time), got undressed and left $$ on the counter. Generally $ 60 is the norm at this spa, but I like to leave $$ for the benefit of both provider and client. I wasn't terribly happy with how she looked, looks to be late 30's to early 40's and a little heavy, but you win some lose some and she wasn't a granny so it was fine I suppose. She offered that she provides nuru so I was quite excited. Unfortunately it ended up being about 40 minutes on my stomach with at least 3 bottles of lotion dumped on my body with one hand just lathering it in no order. It goes from right leg to left shoulder to left arm to right leg, etc. Felt like someone with adhd applying suntan lotion on my back. There were several periods of her just facing the steamer on her phone, and I know she was on her phone with one hand for much of the lotion lathering. I still just layed there hoping that the flip side was going to be good. Finally after what felt like forever, I was asked to flip over. No teasing, no sensuality, no nails dancing on my sides, nothing. Fine. I flip and after another sporadic lotion spread around my legs arms and chest, she *finally* takes her dress off and starts jack hammering. After a few minutes I can see through my squinting she's rolling her eyes. I really wanted to just finish and get it over with but I just got limp and called it off.

I would like to think that I was giving many chances and had alot of patience, but it really just was not going to happen. I don't have money to throw around, so I claim my money and leave to take my business elsewhere. Its not like I got all my money back or anything, I still let the spa keep the house fee, since that was fair for them to keep. The tip was undeserved in my option.

Has anyone else had similar experiences, or would handle it differently? I'd like to hear other opinions to either confirm my judgement or learn from it. Thanks for reading yall.

[PooleParty]

Business is slow these days due to the economy. Girls have to be available more to earn the same money. It is not like they are at the spa waiting, they show up when they have an appointment.

Definitely, I want to say the higher end girls with better looks or service are usually booked for most of the day while for others not sure how much traffic they're getting. I've seen some providers go from working 2 days a week to 4-5 though recently LOL can't blame them with these prices.

[Grunion Runner]

Is Haven spa associated with any other spots? Don't know the politics but why would Haven be targeted?

Haven, VT, and Pure Relaxation are same owners iirc.

[OCanon]

I messaged one of the girls who works there that I'm friendly with. She said it was a standard check they do. Girls get tickets for not having a license.

Just closing the loop on this. My understanding is there was 2 incidences. One was a SAPD raid with a full sweep and 1 of the girls ticketed and-or detained. The 2nd was a standard license check. I directly viewed texts from one of the girls that works there (not that day) to a couple girls that were working there that day. And then correspondence with the owner.

[Pepsi1979]

Wild if true. But yah staying away for a good while. Why does it seem like this place out of all places get raided regularly. Strangely this is one of the places I feel like all the girls are free to come and go unlike some others spots that give more shady vibes (ie many of the places noted in the massage section). From your description sounds more like a robbery. Never heard of cops or ICE or anything wearing shirts that specifically say what they are investigating. Also seems like a number of girls don't care for the owner. Which makes a robbery in this case much more plausible. I don't know anything just seems interesting.

I messaged one of the girls who works there that I'm friendly with. She said it was a standard check they do. Girls get tickets for not having a license.

[TnaStylez]

Heard Haven spa was raided last week. The owner is on the police radar and they are trying to get her busted for human trafficking. I'd probably take a break on hitting up that spa until things cool down.

Is Haven spa associated with any other spots? Don't know the politics but why would Haven be targeted?

[TnaStylez]

Looked at ROM's lineup today and it's completely stacked, how busy do you guys think they get on days like this? They have Bella, Val, and Stacy today, I've checked out Bella and Val who are super hot but on that note have surprisingly never tried a session with Stacy, what ethnicity is she and how is she in terms of massage / fun? I've heard lots of positive reviews about her but always open to recs, heard Zoe is great as well, appreciate it!

Business is slow these days due to the economy. Girls have to be available more to earn the same money. It is not like they are at the spa waiting, they show up when they have an appointment.

[McNutties]

Sounds like Haven was also raided today. (05/30/25).

I only have hearsay from hearsay from hearsay.

Unmarked black vans.

"sex trafficking" shirts.

Took all the money and maybe even took one of the girls.

No paperwork shown. No interviews conducted.

But I can't confirm any of this at all.

Wild if true. But yah staying away for a good while. Why does it seem like this place out of all places get raided regularly. Strangely this is one of the places I feel like all the girls are free to come and go unlike some others spots that give more shady vibes (ie many of the places noted in the massage section). From your description sounds more like a robbery. Never heard of cops or ICE or anything wearing shirts that specifically say what they are investigating. Also seems like a number of girls don't care for the owner. Which makes a robbery in this case much more plausible. I don't know anything just seems interesting.

[PooleParty]

All 3 are solid. Val is my favorite of 3. Stacy is 30's pretty white but has a darker complexion so could be italian mix? Tall, slender look with massive DDs breasts but remarkably soft. Very sensual and lot fun. YMMV. Definitely worth checking out. Zoe is cool girl but she has aged out and not attractive to me.

Amazing taste my man, Val is super fun but I think I have Bella slightly above her just because of the massage and how sensual she is, can't go wrong with either though. Stacy sounds like a great time, I saw that ROM had some new girls this past week but I think I'll be checking her out next since she's a proven vet and report back, appreciate it!

[OCanon]

Looked at ROM's lineup today and it's completely stacked, how busy do you guys think they get on days like this? They have Bella, Val, and Stacy today, I've checked out Bella and Val who are super hot but on that note have surprisingly never tried a session with Stacy, what ethnicity is she and how is she in terms of massage / fun? I've heard lots of positive reviews about her but always open to recs, heard Zoe is great as well, appreciate it!

All 3 are solid. Val is my favorite of 3. Stacy is 30's pretty white but has a darker complexion so could be italian mix? Tall, slender look with massive DDs breasts but remarkably soft. Very sensual and lot fun. YMMV. Definitely worth checking out. Zoe is cool girl but she has aged out and not attractive to me.

[Ayylmao6969]

Heard Haven spa was raided last week. The owner is on the police radar and they are trying to get her busted for human trafficking. I'd probably take a break on hitting up that spa until things cool down.

Sounds like Haven was also raided today. (05/30/25).

I only have hearsay from hearsay from hearsay.

Unmarked black vans.

"sex trafficking" shirts.

Took all the money and maybe even took one of the girls.

No paperwork shown. No interviews conducted.

But I can't confirm any of this at all.

[Grunion Runner]

Heard Haven spa was raided last week. The owner is on the police radar and they are trying to get her busted for human trafficking. I'd probably take a break on hitting up that spa until things cool down.

A while back the lineup pages for those places started going down.

[PooleParty]

Looked at ROM's lineup today and it's completely stacked, how busy do you guys think they get on days like this? They have Bella, Val, and Stacy today, I've checked out Bella and Val who are super hot but on that note have surprisingly never tried a session with Stacy, what ethnicity is she and how is she in terms of massage / fun? I've heard lots of positive reviews about her but always open to recs, heard Zoe is great as well, appreciate it!

[CheepMoney]

Heard Haven spa was raided last week. The owner is on the police radar and they are trying to get her busted for human trafficking. I'd probably take a break on hitting up that spa until things cool down.

Yikes, wasn't it apparently from couple years back from what I read here both haven & 17 SA was raided / shutdown for a while and re opened?

Good looks, seems like I'll take a break & avoid the others around OC isn't on the radar as well. LF & Laguna quite farther down south.