Massage Parlor Reports

[Dr Willy]

(...) PT and Palace seem to be the more civilized establishments with most Mongers making appointments and very few walk-ins. So the pace of action there is very predictable.

Because those are KOREAN establishments.

VM seems to be like the wild west (..) providers start shorting customers of time in an effort to make as much coin as possible (...) I show up the provider with whom I made the appointment is unaware

Because VM is CHINESE a establishment, as are Sunlight, and Eastern in Sarasota.

This disparity in behavior is typical of the cultural differences between Korean and Chinese AMPs, and is also why Chinese places get their MONEY first. At a Chinese AMP, it's all about the money with virtually no pretense of anything else. At Korean AMPs, it's still all about the money, but at least they PRETEND to disguise that by being more (fake) passionate and trying to keep money as a secondary matter by either not discussing it so directly or even, at some Korean places, not expecting to be tipped until AFTER the session is over (that would NEVER happen at a Chinese AMP).

I'm sure a lot of you guys are quite familiar with this difference, but, frankly, I would never expect anything more from VM (or Sunlight, et.al.) than to be fuck-factories putting out as much product as fast as possible (resulting in getting shorted on time and not actually taking real "appointments") for as much money as they can get out of your wallet (explaining the occasional elevated tip expectations/demands, more common at Eastern in Sarasota). All that said, the local Korean AMPs don't step up to the same wild level of services either ... offering only covered services (bj), and hardly ever any TUMA or 2-girl experiences.

[Falcon9]

Went to Serenity the other night looking for L1. The location is so awkward with that bar with the outside tables. Parked far and went in through the street entrance, the business next door has a sign that says smile you're on camera. Really weird. Anyways, walked in, got greeted by this really energetic tall skinny masseuse. I think she has some sort of adhd, the way she was bouncing all over the place. She was super excited. I asked to shower quick to rinse off, then straight to massage. Some light teasing, then on the flip, she went straight to it. It was fantastic, she lubed me up and was pushing down on my pelvis, whole thing was an experience. Standard rates, I would recommend, but I'm not a fan of the location.

[Gator1961]

One thing I learned is when the MMS is there, the girls perform better all around.

Not exactly an answer but that's my take.

I would not disagree usually, but if you go back to the original post Vroombada stated that it was the Mamasan who instigated his being shorted. PT and Palace seem to be the more civilized establishments with most Mongers making appointments and very few walk-ins. So the pace of action there is very predictable. VM seems to be like the wild west. . . Very few appointments and a lot of walk=ins. When their is a surge in Mongers walking in the providers start shorting customers of time in an effort to make as much coin as possible. From reading the forum this is more the norm than the exception at VM.

I read at least a couple of Mongers a week complaining that they were shorted at VM and I am sure there are more. Would be nice if VM went to the appointment only model. I always make an appointment, but I am doubtful that sunlight takes them seriously. It seems that every time I show up the provider with whom I made the appointment is unaware, but thankfully is available. That is how I met Victoria and Jasmine for an epic double. I had an appointment with Jasmine and I was initially serviced by Victoria who I thought was Jasmine.

Well, that's my 2 cents worth and probably all its worth.

Gator.

[Brasky]

Well gentlemen, I think I need to goto monger rehab in order to go back to one girl at a time. LOL. I've been wanting to sample Yumi at Sunlight and knowing rotation is coming up, I made haste to Sunlight. Called ahead for Yummi about 30 minutes out. Greeted by Victoria and whisked off to a room. Next thing I know I'm in the middle of a Victoria and Jasmin sandwich. Double BBBJ, double DATY and double CFS. Blasted deep in Victoria riding CG and Jasmin riding DATY. After boom boom had a massage from Victoria and post coitus cuddle time; we actually fell asleep on the table.

Both awesome ladies rotate out end of month. Jasmine to Orlando and Victoria back to LA with a FL return in June. Get them while you can!

[Tantra6969]

Decided to try this place again this afternoon. The last time I was there I paid for a hour and only got 1/2 hour. So, I go there and wanted a hour. Gave her $$4 and she wanted an extra 40. I said no and she countered with an extra 20 and I said no again. I'm standing my ground at what I given her. This person is the one with the 6 pack abs. Overall it was a rush job, she only gave me a 1/2 hour even though I paid for a hour. Gave a deep massage that only lasted about 5 minutes and we were done. I looked at the clock and said I paid for an hour and she said I needed to give her more money for the boom boom. I gave her the I'm kind of pissed look and said I paid for the hour and started leave. Then she grabbed my arm and said OK, let's come back in the room. At this point I was just not interested and the mood was gone.

Moral of the story is don't over pay, only do 1/2 hour and I really don't think I will ever make a return visit. I'll just drive over to Orlando and see Kelly.

You should have read my earlier post 14152. I tipped off folks that Lola was up charging her tip by 40 roses and it turned me off. Nobody should get grilled by being upcharged. She seemed to be the only one doing so as she says she gives a lot more for her services. I think it's all the PSE acrobatics. Neither Kiki or Coco or past attendants ever upcharged. She's the only one. Also Eastern in Sarasota fee is a std 200 rose tip as well for the hr. That's what Mina told my plumber.

[FloridaGringo]

Like me. Does anyone know how to deal with this?

Gator.

One thing I learned is when the MMS is there, the girls perform better all around.

Not exactly an answer but that's my take.

[TremontTeddy]

1. SL: 60 plus 160.

2. VM: 60 plus 160.

3. PT: 60 plus 140.

Number 1 and 2 are Chinese joints and will occasionally ask for an extra 40. On the other hand, they occasionally will accept 20 less.

PT is 200, every day that ends in "y". Enjoy!

[Rico7]

Obviously no one wants to pay more than necessary. I hate it as much as anyone, but there comes a time when you have to use your head (in this case head = brain!) and decide the best choice in the given situation. I prefer an hour and like many here I hand over the entire customary rate at the beginning of the session. It's either accepted without comment, or occasionally further negotiations ensue. I typically try to hold my ground but honestly sometimes I'll bite the bullet and give a bit more. When that happens I make sure to reference the "full hour" or perhaps I emphasize a particular "kink" that needs to be worked out. I feel like this gives us both a way to get what we're looking for.

FWIW, the price at local 1st tier spas has been essentially the same for at least 10 years now. Again, it always sucks (not in a good way) to pay more, however speaking for myself I'd be more than a little pissed off if I hadn't has a raise in over a decade. Just saying. . . Also, as an alternative we all know places around where you can pay less and as a rule quality and service suffer too. For the "Hold the Line" crowd, keep in mind this is an anonymous board where far too often BS either passes for knowledge or is simply overlooked. Guys don't want to admit to paying more in fear of looking weak or being tagged (by some other douchebag) as a simp or worse. I'm certain folks regularly pay more than is openly discussed. Not only that but plenty of action at these joints come from dudes who don't read this forum, tourists, and those for who money is not an issue.

Finally, as always, I'm compelled to say what a pain in the ass it is that we don't have a single Asian agency in the Tampa Bay area. There's a bunch of reasons (I've mentioned in the past) I generally prefer agencies over AMPs. One big reason is no haggling. You know the upfront price for the services requested at the time you book the appointment. WTF TB?

Sorry, one last thing occurred to me. IMO from the moment VM changed to their current business model, and irrespective of the price you pay, the only thing you can depend on is inconsistency.

[TremontTeddy]

If you are referring to the place in between Jet's pizza and the sports bar I would say legit. I've been there for a foot massage. The price was extremely reasonably priced and they did a great job. Zero hints of anything extra.

Yeah, never seen a report.

What they charging for a 1 hour foot rub? For they have some ladies? The places in tampa have to many male foot massagers.

[Brasky]

L1 is cheaper and the same end result; however, the journey getting there is vastly different!! Getting balls deep pounding some tight Asian pussy is not apples to apples with an oily HJ and maybe sucking her on her tits. I have also had some good times with a middle menu approach of full nude 69 DATY HJ finish.

Regarding the VM discussion, I haven't been to VM since the original Kiki was there and they got popular. Sunlight has been my go to shop lately, though I have been wanting to sample some of the recent talent like new Kiki and Coco. My approach is to give the girl 240 all up front and say "this is for everything". Almost 100% of the time they take it with a smile and provide great service. Once in awhile they ask for 280, I simply shrug and apologize, sorry baby it was 240 last time, only bring 240 etc. Again almost 100% of the time they take the 240 with a smile and the boom boom is great. I can count on one hand, how many times I've dropped 200 + house. The only variance from the 240 all at once is when the mamasan or the girls collects the house fee at the lobby door; then I had the girl 160 for "everything."

All that said, I do carry in some extra cash, in different pockets, for upgrades or the rare rare occasion the girl won't budge off 200 for boom boom. Last, I don't sweat the time as much as the experience, unless I get extremely shorted like 20-30 minutes when I paid the hour house fee. I say it's all relative to the overall experience.

Monger on.

L1 is the way to go. Much cheaper and the same end result.

[Schenectadysam]

Does anyone have any experience at Happy Feet on US-19 bay pines area? DM is fine.

If you are referring to the place in between Jet's pizza and the sports bar I would say legit. I've been there for a foot massage. The price was extremely reasonably priced and they did a great job. Zero hints of anything extra.

[RobbinHoodz]

Does anyone have any experience at Happy Feet on US-19 bay pines area? DM is fine.

[QuartzB]

So you saved $20 after spending $240 and as a result had a rushed bad time? And you think this is smart?? You want her to be in a good mood and if a lousy $20 does that after paying $240 then pay it.

L1 is the way to go. Much cheaper and the same end result.

[RaulBrudda123]

So you saved $20 after spending $240 and as a result had a rushed bad time? And you think this is smart?? You want her to be in a good mood and if a lousy $20 does that after paying $240 then pay it.

I still don't understand why do people pay more upfront. Its hurting other mongers and make the hoes feel special thinking their pussy is worth more. Paying more doesn't guarantee A++ service and full time.

[AirTouchOne]

So you saved $20 after spending $240 and as a result had a rushed bad time? And you think this is smart?? You want her to be in a good mood and if a lousy $20 does that after paying $240 then pay it.

Why should I pay more than the standard rate? If she provided great service then I would have tipped her! If they keep up charging then expect the rates to continue to go up! If I did pay what she requested is that a guarantee I will get the time I paid for? I just call it the way I see it.

And actually she wanted 50 more, I kept saying no then she said 40 & then 20. Hate to be the sucker that give her what she originally wanted.