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  1. #47183
    I don't convince or push anyone. I let them decide and willingly return or ask for the $100. I want to avoid coming across as stingy or cheap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbaka10  [View Original Post]
    Have you guys ever been able to convince an upcharge girl to give you free BBFS?

    One of my ATF's recently went upcharge (100) for BBFS. Before that, she was all-in.

    I've seen her maybe 5 times in total. So I have a bit of a rapport with her. Do you think she'd be willing to give me BBFS for free? Have you guys had any luck in this department? Its a little difficult for me to justify seeing her and paying the extra $100.

  2. #47182
    Quote Originally Posted by Bbaka10  [View Original Post]
    Have you guys ever been able to convince an upcharge girl to give you free BBFS?

    One of my ATF's recently went upcharge (100) for BBFS. Before that, she was all-in.

    I've seen her maybe 5 times in total. So I have a bit of a rapport with her. Do you think she'd be willing to give me BBFS for free? Have you guys had any luck in this department? Its a little difficult for me to justify seeing her and paying the extra $100.
    Yes for me it was Cuban Betty.

  3. #47181

    Let's game plan!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbaka10  [View Original Post]
    Have you guys ever been able to convince an upcharge girl to give you free BBFS?

    One of my ATF's recently went upcharge (100) for BBFS. Before that, she was all-in.

    I've seen her maybe 5 times in total. So I have a bit of a rapport with her. Do you think she'd be willing to give me BBFS for free? Have you guys had any luck in this department? Its a little difficult for me to justify seeing her and paying the extra $100.
    Hm no and yes. If there was ever a stated upcharge for BBFS, I always end up paying it. It's not something I'd ask for personally because I'm fearful it would ruin that rapport but YMMV I'm sure.

    I have gotten BBFS who on paper do not offer it for nothing extra with girls who I've had OTC chemistry with. That of course is a different setting since it's now not work but now kind of just fuck buddies since most of it wasn't an appointment or paid for. I can count on one hand of how many times that has been given but maybe other guys have more game than I.

    If I were to give you advice of how to approach this for maximum mileage, I'd say try to establish a norm to hang outside the apartments. I highly recommend to get her number even if it's just her work number. If you get it, casually ask her out to lunch or coffee. Similar to how you would any woman that you're interested in. I find that Korean women often expect men in general to pay for stuff like that. So coffee or perhaps a nice lunch or dinner will probably earn you hella brownie points.

    If you end up hooking up at either her place or yours or hotel without a cover, I would imagine that she might be more receptive to hooking up more off the clock. You might not be her only dude in the roster, but at least you'll have a spot to where she will enjoy having personal time with you. Still, I think I would you be liable to pay the up charge for a formal appointment. K girls like having dates on the outside as much as anyone else, but I feel that if you ask for a discount outright, you're rolling a dice to ruin that rapport you've established. I could be being overly cautious, but I'd be interested to see what others have to say since there's 1000 ways to go about this I'm sure.

    It's always a different maze with every woman when it comes to getting the most out of your time and money invested if you truly vibe with her. Good luck regardless bro, I also get turned off when a girl goes upcharge after a while of getting it at a better rate.

  4. #47180

    Free upcharge

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbaka10  [View Original Post]
    Have you guys ever been able to convince an upcharge girl to give you free BBFS?

    One of my ATF's recently went upcharge (100) for BBFS. Before that, she was all-in.

    I've seen her maybe 5 times in total. So I have a bit of a rapport with her. Do you think she'd be willing to give me BBFS for free? Have you guys had any luck in this department? Its a little difficult for me to justify seeing her and paying the extra $100.
    My ATF My ATF always offered me free BBFS, I never paid her the +100, other friends always had to pay for her, and there was also another girl that I saw 3 times, the first time was just GFE and the other two she did free upcharge, although I wouldn't repeat it, I only saw her 3 times because she did a rebrand and I didn't know.

  5. #47179
    It's very much a YMMV situation. At the end of the day, as long as the owners / bookers get their cut, they don't really care what the girl charges. I regularly see girls that take 200 or 300 from me for BBFS, but I also have others that laugh when I ask them if they'd consider a discount. The best is when the girl offers the discount to you first. That's rare though.

    Just because you have rapport with a girl doesn't mean that is enough to overcome her desire for me. Just ask the girl next time you see her, and you'll find out how good your rapport really is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbaka10  [View Original Post]
    Have you guys ever been able to convince an upcharge girl to give you free BBFS?

    One of my ATF's recently went upcharge (100) for BBFS. Before that, she was all-in.

    I've seen her maybe 5 times in total. So I have a bit of a rapport with her. Do you think she'd be willing to give me BBFS for free? Have you guys had any luck in this department? Its a little difficult for me to justify seeing her and paying the extra $100.

  6. #47178

    Negotiating free BBFS upgrade

    Have you guys ever been able to convince an upcharge girl to give you free BBFS?

    One of my ATF's recently went upcharge (100) for BBFS. Before that, she was all-in.

    I've seen her maybe 5 times in total. So I have a bit of a rapport with her. Do you think she'd be willing to give me BBFS for free? Have you guys had any luck in this department? Its a little difficult for me to justify seeing her and paying the extra $100.

  7. #47177

    Research

    Quote Originally Posted by Oregon2020  [View Original Post]
    My references are all on TNA, and they're all relatively old. I told one booker that I was totally in with Redbook and I don't think he was impressed. Anyway, I'll keep hoping until I can't, and then I'll make the drive down to Garden.
    I don't know when you started your research, but searching here by keywords is extremely effective, like "Agencies or Humaniplex" for example. But a month before the trip would have given you the info you needed to get in with an agency, not just reading reviews of girls and wanting to try that to on a last minute basis, which it sounds like you're attempting. Maybe going the HX route in Seattle or the Bay area may give you some ratings that will help in the future, nmever heard of anyone referring with TNA or Redbook.

    Going to an agency giving your PII may or may not work, and then your info is out there, not recommended.

    Hell even Pepsi was here for the past 2 days, now in Vegas and she is a direct booking, you may have seen her mentioned, she's about the only KGirl I'm aware where a total newbie can have access.

    https://vegaspepsi.com/

    Prepare better for your next trip.

  8. #47176
    Kbliss Tuesday roster.

    Maya Lily Linda Hanie Yuha playa vista. Erin Bella Dana mw Navi Lucy ktown.

  9. #47175
    BookerM. Baby Arin back on menu this week.

    Rokm. Ch /.

  10. #47174
    Quote Originally Posted by Oregon2020  [View Original Post]
    I might need advice or assistance. See, I have a lot of experience with spas and independent escorts and strip clubs (you can read my reviews). But I have yet to try the Kgirl scene. It turns out that that looks like an obstacle to trying out the kgirl scene. Plus, I'm a very infrequent guest at these places. Any advice on how to work with a booker? I only have a few more days in LA so not a lot of time to establish a reputation. Advice welcome. PM is fine. Thanks all.
    With that short of time, you'll have to give up some PII to get in. Be prepared to at least give an ID (with blacked out sensitive info) and probably a selfie. One of the scrappier smaller orgs will probably take you. Once you go k-girl BBFS, there is no going back.

  11. #47173

    Download X

    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    You researched carefully and saw a ton of very good reviews for Maya, and then you saw her and she was very good. Now you wonder if it's all downhill after. The good thing is, there are other girls not far off. Most guys appreciate variety. But if you think of it like a contest and keep comparing other girls to Maya, it won't help you and then you might as well just repeat Maya.

    Of course, you can indeed repeat Maya and see how that goes. She is priced well. Most guys don't repeat most girls, but when they find a winner they like it can make sense. Especially if you are pacing yourself and doing this after some rest and reflection before seeing her.

    The important point is you noted how Maya is miles ahead of your AMP experience. Kgirls do average much higher in service than AMP girls, it's a different level. So I don't think you are at great risk of disappointment with the caveat that you should go in and enjoy a girl one-on-one for what she has to offer. Each girl is different.

    The same thing happened with first-timers in SD, they chose Allie first and asked the exact same question. But I see it the other way, when you get Maya or Allie as your first girl you have an epiphany. You stop spending your money at strip clubs and AMPs, you even have more self-respect and don't grovel on tinder or with dating. You see the value as clear as can be. So even if the next girl is a step down, the value is still there. My advice is simply to pace yourself so you don't spend too fast too soon, don't wonder if you're missing out, you'll never be happy with FOMO. When you buy a ticket and watch a movie and it was great, don't imagine "what if there was another great movie I'm missing out on too". Just enjoy them one at a time, take a break, and repeat when you're feeling it again.
    What a great advice! A pearl of wisdom from years of experience and knowledge. Nicely done sir!

  12. #47172
    Quote Originally Posted by BigZhangMang  [View Original Post]
    Hmmm. Might have to go the long route via HX in your area. Make sure to get the number of the Kgirl provider and try to use her as a reference when you go to verify with a Booker in LA or wherever. These chicks tour so there's a chance. Bookers usually like to see 3 references BTW.
    My references are all on TNA, and they're all relatively old. I told one booker that I was totally in with Redbook and I don't think he was impressed. Anyway, I'll keep hoping until I can't, and then I'll make the drive down to Garden.

  13. #47171
    Quote Originally Posted by JerkieChan  [View Original Post]
    Many of the K-girl orgs in Southern California use Humaniplex. Without a network, be prepared to provide identifying personal info for the verification process. If you're an infrequent guest for this type of business, you might just want to stick to the massage parlors.
    Thanks for the reply. Yes, the massage parlor is my fallback. I got lured by all the great reviews on this site, though, and thought I'd try it out while I'm in LA. Because I come from far away, I haven't had time or inclination to get admitted to Humaniplex (I barely understand it), so I was hoping a booker would take pity on me. I've gotten a few helpful pm's, so I remain hopeful. y'all have it pretty good down here, I'll say that much.

  14. #47170
    Quote Originally Posted by Oregon2020  [View Original Post]
    I might need advice or assistance. See, I have a lot of experience with spas and independent escorts and strip clubs (you can read my reviews). But I have yet to try the Kgirl scene. It turns out that that looks like an obstacle to trying out the kgirl scene. Plus, I'm a very infrequent guest at these places. Any advice on how to work with a booker? I only have a few more days in LA so not a lot of time to establish a reputation. Advice welcome. PM is fine. Thanks all.
    Many of the K-girl orgs in Southern California use Humaniplex. Without a network, be prepared to provide identifying personal info for the verification process. If you're an infrequent guest for this type of business, you might just want to stick to the massage parlors.

  15. #47169
    Quote Originally Posted by Oregon2020  [View Original Post]
    I might need advice or assistance. See, I have a lot of experience with spas and independent escorts and strip clubs (you can read my reviews). But I have yet to try the Kgirl scene. It turns out that that looks like an obstacle to trying out the kgirl scene. Plus, I'm a very infrequent guest at these places. Any advice on how to work with a booker? I only have a few more days in LA so not a lot of time to establish a reputation. Advice welcome. PM is fine. Thanks all.
    Hmmm. Might have to go the long route via HX in your area. Make sure to get the number of the Kgirl provider and try to use her as a reference when you go to verify with a Booker in LA or wherever. These chicks tour so there's a chance. Bookers usually like to see 3 references BTW.

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