Rants, Raves & Opinions

[Sugar Daddy PDX]

Just got back from a week long vacation. From out of state and boy, does it remind me how bad the hobby is in Oregon. So much easier to find young fit girls in other markets. I come back to browse some ads and my god, nothing but overpriced land whales, and bitchy safety girls. Thank goodness my work has me traveling a lot lately. Already looking forward to my next trip.

[MixedPlate89]

Here's my perspective: there are multiple users here that are posting glowing reviews, or (in my opinion) paying more than they need to, or acting like a shill, or combinations of these things. Plus there are members here that don't post, but the potential is there.

It's not just one person. My post was intended for members that may be doing any of those behaviors.

On a separate note I'd like to compliment you. You have a flair for writing descriptions. I think my narratives are written in a lame way.

I'll send you a follow up message. Peace.

I appreciate the response. Yeah I definitely didn't take it to be aimed at one person. Fair enough. I do believe the price aspect to be subjective. Where I disagree at, is that some admins or some senior members have asserted that some of us, "overpaying," it, "ruins," it for others. I think they're several factors to consider before saying something like that outright. Thanks. I wouldn't say your description is lame. Everyone has a different flavor to them & how they describe things etc. I read a few of your reviews & for me I find value in what you have to say. So thanks. Alright, I look forward to it. Thanks for the compliment. I'm all for having an open dialogue on this topic, and hopefully finding a common ground.

[WarpFactor69]

Here's my perspective: there are multiple users here that are posting glowing reviews, or (in my opinion) paying more than they need to, or acting like a shill, or combinations of these things. Plus there are members here that don't post, but the potential is there.

It's not just one person. My post was intended for members that may be doing any of those behaviors.

On a separate note I'd like to compliment you. You have a flair for writing descriptions. I think my narratives are written in a lame way.

I'll send you a follow up message. Peace.

Not trying to start shit so I want to get that out of the way. I've attempted to do what a lot of the vets suggested & mostly to no avail & I've walked away with my ball & went to another court the one place will say yes if one don't perspective & mostly no. I'm curious as a detailed individual from my science, and sports background of dudes getting an hr or whatever for $200. I'm curious to know how long is the massage for & the time they last (PAUSE LOL. Only for educational purposes based on many cats in her going at folks for "overpaying," and allegedly ruining it for others.).

I need details respectfully. On if cats also have rapport with said chicks or the places to go to to get $200 for an hr & I need to go to the same places & see the same chicks they say they see & I have for a lot. I'm a cat that will verify if said claim is true or not. Whether it's on claim of shop having young chicks or good looking chicks etc. From my experience mostly I haven't had the same success yall have had but to preference I am 4 months into this AMP shit whereas probably most of y'all senior members of vets are yrs into this AMP shit. I want to know context. Cause that happens for maybe very little folks & most pay more or whatever & I think that's on other shops that are good like Osaka for example that charges a flat rate of $250 for an hr. I'm sure these shops look at their competition & likely go based off that to a degree.

Not saying what you're saying can't happen to where if everyone banded together & demanded $200 for hr or no go that it wouldn't change. $70 house fee & $130 for tip is pretty reasonable. For me, I am willing to go as high as $240-260 but I'm in the range of $200-$240 for 30 minutes to an hr. Last time I got $200 for an hr was candy at nice spa 2 or so months ago. I've tried many times. I'm not going to go back & forth & then if they take it it may reduce overall service cause they feel cheated & that the customer is cheap etc. I do prefer to pay less ofc, but I don't mind giving up $240-260 & won't go past $260 for an hr. I generally do hh for $200 & always go over time no extra charge about 45-49 minutes, and at times 51 minutes. If one is found to be attractive to said AMP chick & their sex game is solid or elite I'm sure they won't keep track of time etc.

One can likely also know the non busy times & be able to get $200 for an hr. I'm sure they're other contexts like that, that can factor in or perhaps to be fair I'm not as firm enough or convincing enough idk and that you guys who do it are that's entirely possible to be fair. Either way it don't seem like it's adding up for a lot of us & for very few here that are seasoned AMP cats. My only suggestion would be as my homie I do is to tag along with seasoned vets & see how they talk to these AMP chicks & see what places & girls they go to, to get $200 for an hr. I've done it a few times before so I'm not doubting it can't ever happen. I am asserting that for most it doesn't happen. I'm not here to start anything BTW I want to reiterate that & not trying to challenge your pt either by saying you're wrong etc or I'm right etc. It's subjective my perspective. You know your shit I'm sure & the AMP vets here so respect. I am responding though because I'd like to know context and see the insides of it as to how you & others arrive there. Only way IMO is if cats go with one of you in person live & see how it goes to really discern things in totality, respectfully. That be my only solution other than what you said on us not caving in so to speak. So it's possible, but but for most of us it's unlikely that's all I'm saying.

[MixedPlate89]

I have done so at all three this this year, (two of them in the past 6 weeks) plus two other shops connected to baoju, this month. However, because of the recent gushing posts over the past 6 weeks, and guys over paying, it would be difficult today at love and candy. I don't know if it's insecurity or lack of common sense, but either way it's unfortunate and it will only get worse if guys keep caving in. I choose to NOT be part of the problem. But I'll keep finding places with attractive girls with good attitudes for my usual rate. Did so last week at a place I have not visited in over a year. Instead of asking me where, consider my following suggestion:

Gentleman, there are over 200 choices in the metro area. Try someplace you have not been before, or have not been to in a while. Be willing to walk if you get a GPS attitude..

Not trying to start shit so I want to get that out of the way. I've attempted to do what a lot of the vets suggested & mostly to no avail & I've walked away with my ball & went to another court the one place will say yes if one don't perspective & mostly no. I'm curious as a detailed individual from my science, and sports background of dudes getting an hr or whatever for $200. I'm curious to know how long is the massage for & the time they last (PAUSE LOL. Only for educational purposes based on many cats in her going at folks for "overpaying," and allegedly ruining it for others.).

I need details respectfully. On if cats also have rapport with said chicks or the places to go to to get $200 for an hr & I need to go to the same places & see the same chicks they say they see & I have for a lot. I'm a cat that will verify if said claim is true or not. Whether it's on claim of shop having young chicks or good looking chicks etc. From my experience mostly I haven't had the same success yall have had but to preference I am 4 months into this AMP shit whereas probably most of y'all senior members of vets are yrs into this AMP shit. I want to know context. Cause that happens for maybe very little folks & most pay more or whatever & I think that's on other shops that are good like Osaka for example that charges a flat rate of $250 for an hr. I'm sure these shops look at their competition & likely go based off that to a degree.

Not saying what you're saying can't happen to where if everyone banded together & demanded $200 for hr or no go that it wouldn't change. $70 house fee & $130 for tip is pretty reasonable. For me, I am willing to go as high as $240-260 but I'm in the range of $200-$240 for 30 minutes to an hr. Last time I got $200 for an hr was candy at nice spa 2 or so months ago. I've tried many times. I'm not going to go back & forth & then if they take it it may reduce overall service cause they feel cheated & that the customer is cheap etc. I do prefer to pay less ofc, but I don't mind giving up $240-260 & won't go past $260 for an hr. I generally do hh for $200 & always go over time no extra charge about 45-49 minutes, and at times 51 minutes. If one is found to be attractive to said AMP chick & their sex game is solid or elite I'm sure they won't keep track of time etc.

One can likely also know the non busy times & be able to get $200 for an hr. I'm sure they're other contexts like that, that can factor in or perhaps to be fair I'm not as firm enough or convincing enough idk and that you guys who do it are that's entirely possible to be fair. Either way it don't seem like it's adding up for a lot of us & for very few here that are seasoned AMP cats. My only suggestion would be as my homie I do is to tag along with seasoned vets & see how they talk to these AMP chicks & see what places & girls they go to, to get $200 for an hr. I've done it a few times before so I'm not doubting it can't ever happen. I am asserting that for most it doesn't happen. I'm not here to start anything BTW I want to reiterate that & not trying to challenge your pt either by saying you're wrong etc or I'm right etc. It's subjective my perspective. You know your shit I'm sure & the AMP vets here so respect. I am responding though because I'd like to know context and see the insides of it as to how you & others arrive there. Only way IMO is if cats go with one of you in person live & see how it goes to really discern things in totality, respectfully. That be my only solution other than what you said on us not caving in so to speak. So it's possible, but but for most of us it's unlikely that's all I'm saying.

[Sugar Daddy PDX]

I scored a date with a heavily pregnant LeilaniRose96 back in early 2020. Holy shit was she hot and pregnant. Not fat pregnant, that's gross. But Fit and hot as fuck pregnant. Got an hour with her at a nearby incall for a decent price. She delivered a short time later and I wanted so bad to set up a follow-up date during her lactation period but by then it was mid 2020 and everything was on lock down.

I still see her on TNA today and she is pretty much porn star status and rates have doubled or she is only doing OF. Glad I got to to see her way back when.

Leilani was sexy as hell when she started. I saw her before her boob job. Gps set in and I never went back.

[Pdx503]

Take a quick glance through the fetish section on the g. P s board and I'm shocked at how many are pregnant. Use the hell are these guys that are knocking up hookers? Is it tyrone? Unbelievable.

I've got a lot of freaky Fetishes, but a fat pregnant provider is not in the top ten. They all fall in the bbw category. Not a sexy curvy young girl with a baby bump.

I scored a date with a heavily pregnant LeilaniRose96 back in early 2020. Holy shit was she hot and pregnant. Not fat pregnant, that's gross. But Fit and hot as fuck pregnant. Got an hour with her at a nearby incall for a decent price. She delivered a short time later and I wanted so bad to set up a follow-up date during her lactation period but by then it was mid 2020 and everything was on lock down.

I still see her on TNA today and she is pretty much porn star status and rates have doubled or she is only doing OF. Glad I got to to see her way back when.

[Nunya206]

I just got quoted 700 for half and 1400 for an hour from a girl off tnaboard. I have bought a ticket to Thailand. Next trip will be to Europe.

[Sugar Daddy PDX]

Take a quick glance through the fetish section on the g. P s board and I'm shocked at how many are pregnant. Use the hell are these guys that are knocking up hookers? Is it tyrone? Unbelievable.

I've got a lot of freaky Fetishes, but a fat pregnant provider is not in the top ten. They all fall in the bbw category. Not a sexy curvy young girl with a baby bump.

[Zippy69]

With so many providers around, I always thought they saw around 5 guys on a decent day of business.

There are so many women on the boards and such variety. I've also had providers continue texting me to try to set something up. Providers I'd only been texting with that day. Which felt like they were trying to drum up business. All this led me to think 5 dudes in a day was pretty good for them.

Nope.

I recently saw a provider (I won't say who publicly) offering a slightly special rate. I'd seen her before, and she was an okay time, so why not? She's pretty, clean, has a good incall, and is pretty easy to get along with.

While chatting, she told me about a recent purchase she'd made, which was pretty expensive. She still needed to pay for and pick this item up, but she told me it was fine because, thanks to her special, she had already made the money for this item over the past two weeks.

Doing the math, I figured she was seeing AT LEAST 8 guys per day. I casually inquired, and she confirmed she is seeing about 12 guys on a typical weekday, "many" more on weekends.

This provider is not centrally located in Portland, either. She is a bit off the beaten path.

This surprised me, but she told me it adds up, as most guys opt for QV or HH.

As I arrived, I noticed a car in the same parking area and someone who seemed to have just gotten in their car to leave. As I left, it clicked that the person I saw leaving as I arrived was almost definitely the guy who had an appointment ahead of me, and she was stacking appointments back-to-back. (She also set a timer on her phone for our session, which supports that theory. Also, because of where you park when seeing her, there's almost no chance it was coincidental.).

Just wanted to put that info out there. If you thought you were 1 of 3 on the day or something, don't kid yourself.

I'm an early bird and try to see women early in the AM. As early as possible. For some reason I think it's better if I'm the first to have the day. It probably doesn't matter.

When I go to AMPs I always show up as soon as they open. Better chance of getting clean sheets at least.

[Trumpeter]

They can easily make 1 k a day, if they know how to run a business. And c'Mon., there's more horny guys then providers.

I am surprised. I think some of them struggle to make a living. I think the comment "if they know how to run a business" is very true, and many, if not most, do not. If you're cute and provide good value then you're probably in the category of this provider, but I suspect she's not the normal.

[Organiz]

With so many providers around, I always thought they saw around 5 guys on a decent day of business.

There are so many women on the boards and such variety. I've also had providers continue texting me to try to set something up. Providers I'd only been texting with that day. Which felt like they were trying to drum up business. All this led me to think 5 dudes in a day was pretty good for them.

Nope.

I recently saw a provider (I won't say who publicly) offering a slightly special rate. I'd seen her before, and she was an okay time, so why not? She's pretty, clean, has a good incall, and is pretty easy to get along with.

While chatting, she told me about a recent purchase she'd made, which was pretty expensive. She still needed to pay for and pick this item up, but she told me it was fine because, thanks to her special, she had already made the money for this item over the past two weeks.

Doing the math, I figured she was seeing AT LEAST 8 guys per day. I casually inquired, and she confirmed she is seeing about 12 guys on a typical weekday, "many" more on weekends.

This provider is not centrally located in Portland, either. She is a bit off the beaten path.

This surprised me, but she told me it adds up, as most guys opt for QV or HH.

As I arrived, I noticed a car in the same parking area and someone who seemed to have just gotten in their car to leave. As I left, it clicked that the person I saw leaving as I arrived was almost definitely the guy who had an appointment ahead of me, and she was stacking appointments back-to-back. (She also set a timer on her phone for our session, which supports that theory. Also, because of where you park when seeing her, there's almost no chance it was coincidental.).

Just wanted to put that info out there. If you thought you were 1 of 3 on the day or something, don't kid yourself.

They can easily make 1 k a day, if they know how to run a business. And c'Mon., there's more horny guys then providers.

[Mizunate]

With so many providers around, I always thought they saw around 5 guys on a decent day of business.

There are so many women on the boards and such variety. I've also had providers continue texting me to try to set something up. Providers I'd only been texting with that day. Which felt like they were trying to drum up business. All this led me to think 5 dudes in a day was pretty good for them.

Nope.

I recently saw a provider (I won't say who publicly) offering a slightly special rate. I'd seen her before, and she was an okay time, so why not? She's pretty, clean, has a good incall, and is pretty easy to get along with.

While chatting, she told me about a recent purchase she'd made, which was pretty expensive. She still needed to pay for and pick this item up, but she told me it was fine because, thanks to her special, she had already made the money for this item over the past two weeks.

Doing the math, I figured she was seeing AT LEAST 8 guys per day. I casually inquired, and she confirmed she is seeing about 12 guys on a typical weekday, "many" more on weekends.

This provider is not centrally located in Portland, either. She is a bit off the beaten path.

This surprised me, but she told me it adds up, as most guys opt for QV or HH.

As I arrived, I noticed a car in the same parking area and someone who seemed to have just gotten in their car to leave. As I left, it clicked that the person I saw leaving as I arrived was almost definitely the guy who had an appointment ahead of me, and she was stacking appointments back-to-back. (She also set a timer on her phone for our session, which supports that theory. Also, because of where you park when seeing her, there's almost no chance it was coincidental.).

Just wanted to put that info out there. If you thought you were 1 of 3 on the day or something, don't kid yourself.

[Kinksty]

Is it just me or do fat pussies feel better than skinny pussies?

I mean I have a girlfriend who's as hot as any pornstar in my opinion and is super skinny. She's great to throw around in bed but time and time again I'm surprised by how good fat pussies feel in comparison to skinny chicks.

Sometimes I feel like the thicker ladies just fuck better. Maybe they try harder. Sometimes the hottest ones just lie there and look pretty, thinking that's enough.

[Organiz]

Alot of providers have a cancelation fee or reduced time if you cancel or are late. What about I sat here for 30 minutes waiting on you discount? At this point I drive away after 15-20 (unless otherwise informed and acknowledged with a reason) and fuck off with that cancelation fee if I sat there waiting and finally decided to leave.

She offered me discount / extra time after I drove to her and ghosted me.

[Organiz]

Alot of providers have a cancelation fee or reduced time if you cancel or are late. What about I sat here for 30 minutes waiting on you discount? At this point I drive away after 15-20 (unless otherwise informed and acknowledged with a reason) and fuck off with that cancelation fee if I sat there waiting and finally decided to leave.

That's very generous of you waiting 30 minutes. I wouldn't tolerate that shit. Sarabeth and Kenzie kash was an exception tho, they never looked at the clock.