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  1. #15059
    Quote Originally Posted by DoToDont  [View Original Post]
    Guys who think they will get more by overpaying, think again. You might get less action as they label you the loser easy guy in their mind and will do the minimum to get you out of the door.

    It's purely business in these AMP. Sometimes you get to form a bond, but those are rare instances.

    Have fun and be kind, but firm when it comes to rates. I always tip at the end if she goes above and beyond and if I plan to repeat.

    Do not pay in the beginning and definitely do not overpay.
    I completely agree. It is still a sales job at the heart of the matter and part of it is to put on a happy face and smile as they take whatever money they can separate from you. I don't think overpaying helps you at all.

    Back during the B6 era, a girl I saw was straightening up after when someone entered the lobby on the monitor. She dreaded at the sight of him and was completely relieved when he went with someone else. Another time, I saw on the monitors someone known for her bubbly and welcoming personality come in on her off night. My girl went and got her because I wanted to see her for a bit and say hi. Let's just say the couple minutes I tried to chat with her were less than comfortable. Maybe it was my bad for bothering her during her off time. Whenever I saw her again, she was always back to what everyone knew and loved, but that exchange stuck with me.

    To prove I'm not a complete downer, I also agree special connections can form but are very rare. I was invited to eat lunch in the break area one time with another girl and she confided that like most regular people and work, she does not like what she does but has to pay bills.

  2. #15058
    Quote Originally Posted by JustWant1HJ  [View Original Post]
    Here's my operating procedure for anyone lurking not taking part in this convo.

    Step 1 - I have my phone open with porn on it when they walk in.

    Step 2 - I just straight up skip the massage, which I know is going to be a shitty not worth it massage anyway, and I'm naked and tell them what I want with hand motions.

    Step 3 - she says give me money then and I just hand her the money. She says that's not enough. Well that's what I have. Sorry!

    Step 4 - she says you pay more next time and I say "sure sure" (I won't) and we get right to it.
    I like to let the girl know "It's good to be back" right as I'm walking through the gate to the room and maybe grab a butt real qquick. Usually they get in a good mood right away. After getting in the room and she leaves for me to undress, I go ahead and stick my donations on the counter so she sees when she comes in. Usually end up with a great experience.

    Ofcourse I only do this if I approve of who greets me initially. Don't settle for something you don't want.

  3. #15057
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry2671  [View Original Post]
    Gentlemen,

    I am from Tucson, I am stuck here for the next 7 months. What are the rates for this area. In Tucson you can be very very satisfied for $200 for the hour which includes FS & house fees.
    Same rates for the valley with the AMP's.

  4. #15056

    Phoenix rates

    Gentlemen,

    I am from Tucson, I am stuck here for the next 7 months. What are the rates for this area. In Tucson you can be very very satisfied for $200 for the hour which includes FS & house fees.

  5. #15055
    Quote Originally Posted by DoToDont  [View Original Post]
    Guys who think they will get more by overpaying, think again. You might get less action as they label you the loser easy guy in their mind and will do the minimum to get you out of the door.

    It's purely business in these AMP. Sometimes you get to form a bond, but those are rare instances.

    Have fun and be kind, but firm when it comes to rates. I always tip at the end if she goes above and beyond and if I plan to repeat.

    Do not pay in the beginning and definitely do not overpay.
    Quote Originally Posted by HardanFast  [View Original Post]
    Typically in a situation like this, I will initially offer a tip for what I want. I may or may not negotiate depending on my reading of the provider. If I think she is too insistent, I will also casually mention that I will ask for a refund of the house fee because I am leaving. If necessary, I will follow through, too, because word does get around among these girls. Most times, though, I will give them at least part of the tip up front and tell them I will give them more tip at the end, usually without specifying how much unless I ask for something specific, if they satisfy me to the extent that I think they earn it. On repeat visits, there is usually much less, if any, negotiation if I see the same provider.
    Here's my operating procedure for anyone lurking not taking part in this convo.

    Step 1 - I have my phone open with porn on it when they walk in.

    Step 2 - I just straight up skip the massage, which I know is going to be a shitty not worth it massage anyway, and I'm naked and tell them what I want with hand motions.

    Step 3 - she says give me money then and I just hand her the money. She says that's not enough. Well that's what I have. Sorry!

    Step 4 - she says you pay more next time and I say "sure sure" (I won't) and we get right to it.

  6. #15054

    Red Rose

    Quote Originally Posted by AzHooligan  [View Original Post]
    Where is red rose??
    Red Rose is on google maps next door to Taco Mich.

  7. #15053

    Red rose

    Where is red rose??

    Quote Originally Posted by JustWant1HJ  [View Original Post]
    And I literally just did it again! Haha.

    Red Rose.

    $25 house fee $40 L1 and I'm out the door! Love it! This might become a once a week thing for me.

  8. #15052

    Usually Successful

    Typically in a situation like this, I will initially offer a tip for what I want. I may or may not negotiate depending on my reading of the provider. If I think she is too insistent, I will also casually mention that I will ask for a refund of the house fee because I am leaving. If necessary, I will follow through, too, because word does get around among these girls. Most times, though, I will give them at least part of the tip up front and tell them I will give them more tip at the end, usually without specifying how much unless I ask for something specific, if they satisfy me to the extent that I think they earn it. On repeat visits, there is usually much less, if any, negotiation if I see the same provider.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoToDont  [View Original Post]
    Guys who think they will get more by overpaying, think again. You might get less action as they label you the loser easy guy in their mind and will do the minimum to get you out of the door.

    It's purely business in these AMP. Sometimes you get to form a bond, but those are rare instances.

    Have fun and be kind, but firm when it comes to rates. I always tip at the end if she goes above and beyond and if I plan to repeat.

    Do not pay in the beginning and definitely do not overpay.

  9. #15051

    Totally agree

    Guys who think they will get more by overpaying, think again. You might get less action as they label you the loser easy guy in their mind and will do the minimum to get you out of the door.

    It's purely business in these AMP. Sometimes you get to form a bond, but those are rare instances.

    Have fun and be kind, but firm when it comes to rates. I always tip at the end if she goes above and beyond and if I plan to repeat.

    Do not pay in the beginning and definitely do not overpay.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustWant1HJ  [View Original Post]
    Another tip: do not just give up after you offer them $x and they say no. You might have to go back and forth several times with theatrics. That's how negotiating is done in many east asian countries. In some asian countries if you walk up to someone in a market and just pay what they ask you will be given a look of bewilderment and shock haha.

  10. #15050

    Well said

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul432  [View Original Post]
    We've got to fight every rate increase. Unlike other goods of our economy (gas prices, grocery and clothing prices) when times are good, our hobby rates never come back down. These ladies get their hands on an increase and never give it up. Unfortunately negotiation is often required. They are taught this from very young so they expect it. It's basic business to them. If the original asking price is paid one is viewed as weak. Always counter offer and try to meet and the middle. Ever been to the mall with an Asian lady? They always ask for discount.
    Another tip: do not just give up after you offer them $x and they say no. You might have to go back and forth several times with theatrics. That's how negotiating is done in many east asian countries. In some asian countries if you walk up to someone in a market and just pay what they ask you will be given a look of bewilderment and shock haha.

  11. #15049
    Quote Originally Posted by JustWant1HJ  [View Original Post]
    And I literally just did it again! Haha.

    Red Rose.

    $25 house fee $40 L1 and I'm out the door! Love it! This might become a once a week thing for me.
    Coco still running the whole thing by herself?

  12. #15048
    Quote Originally Posted by Smerkster  [View Original Post]
    You pay more than $40 for a L1? Please stop. You're ruining it for the rest of us.
    We've got to fight every rate increase. Unlike other goods of our economy (gas prices, grocery and clothing prices) when times are good, our hobby rates never come back down. These ladies get their hands on an increase and never give it up. Unfortunately negotiation is often required. They are taught this from very young so they expect it. It's basic business to them. If the original asking price is paid one is viewed as weak. Always counter offer and try to meet and the middle. Ever been to the mall with an Asian lady? They always ask for discount.

  13. #15047

    Stop overpaying

    Quote Originally Posted by Jrcnr  [View Original Post]
    You talked them down to $40 for L1 - smh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smerkster  [View Original Post]
    You pay more than $40 for a L1? Please stop. You're ruining it for the rest of us.
    And I literally just did it again! Haha.

    Red Rose.

    $25 house fee $40 L1 and I'm out the door! Love it! This might become a once a week thing for me.

  14. #15046
    Quote Originally Posted by Jrcnr  [View Original Post]
    You talked them down to $40 for L1 - smh.
    You pay more than $40 for a L1? Please stop. You're ruining it for the rest of us.

  15. #15045

    Sketchy

    Quote Originally Posted by SmJacobb  [View Original Post]
    Did spring open back up? It is non descriptive on address but same cross streets. I may have to take a drive down there.

    https://adultsearch.com/us/arizona/p...scorts/3609717
    I contacted the number and it is not Spring (that is 100% legit). It is not Imperial (old Asian turtle will suck you off with plastic wrap). It is a private residence near the area. The woman sent me to a nearby parking lot. Once I got there I was to contact her for the address. I did and she did not respond. Setup another burner number and did a FaceTime call. An older Asian lady answered from a house and quickly went dark. She gave me the same script. Did know if this was a scam or sting. I bounced.

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