Massage Parlor Reports

[Trumpeter]

That works too.

It's a cultural thing. These girls have grown up negotiating for a lot of things and it's just a part of life. We don't do it often here and most people in the West are uncomfortable with it.

I spent quite a bit of time in China and in the touristy areas I would see people way overpay for things because they were basing the price on what they thought they would pay here and they were uncomfortable negotiating. The sellers knew this and took advantage.

Offering a fair price and walking away is what works the best. You can't underpay because they'll just let you keep walking. The trick there is to determine a fair price, which takes getting a few no's and adjusting accordingly. We have the advantage of this group to learn what others are paying. In the end you have to decide what it's worth to you because there are a lot of other things you can get with the same amount of money.

I kind of agree with you, but I never get involved in bidding. I offer a price and that is first and final offer.

[OneOne9]

What you're doing is negotiating. You're offering a price for services and walking away if they say no. You're just pre-negotiating to avoid useless travel.

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I kind of agree with you, but I never get involved in bidding. I offer a price and that is first and final offer.

Like usual I did a poor job of explaining. Examples 2 and 3 would be if I just walked into a shop and depending on the vibe would determine when I would make my offer.

[Trumpeter]

What you're doing is negotiating. You're offering a price for services and walking away if they say no. You're just pre-negotiating to avoid useless travel.

1. I send them a text and ask if xxx / xx is ok. If they reply with an ok or come I will go and discuss what I want for xxx. If they say no, not a biggie.

2. When I arrive and we go to the room I tell them I have xxx and what I expect. Once again if they say no, no biggie.

3. When I arrive I pay the shop fee, at the flip I tell them what I have and expect.

I very seldom walk but IMHO always make a fair offer but never consider what the over payers are claiming to pay.

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[MixedPlate89]

Honestly, I'm about your $$$ range and bit higher and I'm a hardcore Chinese agency veteran so I know what service I can request (when I see agency girl working in AMP) so I pay them base on their services.

Of course, nothing wrong with sticking with what you pay! Also, nothing wrong with going with what rest of the monger pay.

In the end of day, no one knows what you pay other than yourself!

All good. Yeah It's subjective tbh on what's "low," and what's,"high," or what's, "fair," etc. For me, I'm willing to part with $260 at the very highest. Idc what others pay it's not my money so I'm not gon judge them or say they paying too high or too low etc. The end game is to get poonani LOL from a chick you find attractive at AMP's. Of course in an ideal world I'd like to pay $180-200, as most are suggesting & I've tried. For me, I'm not going to haggle or debate or make it to a pt where the chick becomes focused on that & it decreases the service & now she becomes bitter & ain't giving me good service where it's rushed or whatever so I am willing to pay premium price. If I deem it to be cool. I'm a business guy so if things are valued than a "higher price," may be required & I'm willing to pay that if I want product or service X given I budget well, make good money etch & it's money I'm willing to lose so I'm good.

That's how I see it at least. It's all good though. You're right. I respect folks perspectives on this though so it's all a learning experience for me as a rookie AMP cat.

[OneOne9]

Whether you're haggling over the price of a massage and extras or a suitcase in a shop in Shanghai, the key is to be willing to walk out. Have a price, and if they don't like it, leave. You can start on the lower side, so you come up a little and meet in the middle, but know you're top price, and don't go over.

only take that amount in with me, so I can tell them that's all I have. That way they can't convince you to go higher when the little brain is trying to take control.

1. You can't cheat them because they can always say no too.

1. I send them a text and ask if xxx / xx is ok. If they reply with an ok or come I will go and discuss what I want for xxx. If they say no, not a biggie.

2. When I arrive and we go to the room I tell them I have xxx and what I expect. Once again if they say no, no biggie.

3. When I arrive I pay the shop fee, at the flip I tell them what I have and expect.

I very seldom walk but IMHO always make a fair offer but never consider what the over payers are claiming to pay.

[SageSix]

Yes. I tried for $200 for boom boom, plus hr massage & she wasn't having it LOL XD. We negotiated & I said $220, she maintained on $250, I said $240 take it or leave it & that was that LOL. $200 hasn't worked for me often but at times it has. Last time was with candy, at nice spa but it was a little bit of a haggle, as I shared my experience with her in a review here, approximately 2-3 weeks ago or so. I do think I may need to be much more firm on $200, but to me I'm okay with giving $220-260 tops & I won't go further than $260. I'm curious on what's your advice or tactics on negotiating or if you frequent these AMP's a lot more than me that perhaps assists you in landing $200 much more often than I do if you don't mind sharing.

I've just started going to AMP's, for nearing 3 months now so I am a rookie / boot LOL when it comes to this shit. I ain't trying to haggle & ruin the mood, between the masseuse & I. To be fair, although candy did slightly complain about it the service was still good, but she is in her mid 40's & a MILF, so idk if that factors in cause most of these young chicks probably unlikely to do that, at least from my experience, but I don't have as much rapport with them. They're probably 3-4 shops I have major rapport with & gone to multiple times, but I like to try new shops often so that could be why, also why they won't take $200. I've tried a lot of times though. For me, I take Public transportation everywhere so if I am traveling from for example Beaverton to Vancouver to get FS, and it takes 2 hrs LOL I ain't trying to take my ball & go home or go to other shops LOL and waste more time so that also factors in for me.

Only way I do that is if I am with my boy D if we go together, as he drives etc & I don't. That's also a factor for me compared to likely most folks on this forum. I'll continue to try $200. I'm sure I'll get some takers. I usually get an hr. Perhaps trying hh with boom boom can get me there more often or just straight into boom boom. I'm all ears if you got any tips. Thanks in advance.

Honestly, I'm about your $$$ range and bit higher and I'm a hardcore Chinese agency veteran so I know what service I can request (when I see agency girl working in AMP) so I pay them base on their services.

Of course, nothing wrong with sticking with what you pay! Also, nothing wrong with going with what rest of the monger pay.

In the end of day, no one knows what you pay other than yourself!

[SageSix]

Was passing by and decided to check Candy but since I rarely in the area figured I'd check other places first.

So, moving East to West stopped at Hollywood on Powell and 148th, two girls one old one in her mid 30's, slim, plain face with a hint of cuteness. I didn't expect I'd be staying and was about to exit but she was pretty insistent and I figure why not. 2 for all, which included untranslated French and boom boom. Massage was decent if a bit light but she asked if light was ok and I said yes. French was decent to good, boom boom was meh. Once she took her scrubs there was a pair of very nice natural B / C tatas with pink large conical nipples but she didn't have much shape down from there albeit being slim and no ass to speak of. I was on a road for a long time and with lacklaster boom boom finish wasn't in the cards so I thanked and left at the end of my hour. Not bad but not great either, not worth a repeat in my book.

Next, I parked at Safeway on Powell and 122nd and walked to checkout Pink (all three remaining places are walking distance from that Safeway). Only one girl working and too plain to be interesting, mid to late 30's and not much shape to her body unless the dress was hiding it, not fat though.

Next, Azure, I was met by Vivi, she looks good enough in her dress, ask to see another girl but she was pulling me in the room and I didn't fight it. Told her about the price they advertise online, she was cool with that but untranslated French would require a tip which I was cool with in turn. Vivi looks to be late 30's, good make up, dressed well.

There was a modicum of massage but seems like she knows what she's doing. Unfortunately, once her dress came of the body was not that great looking as one could have imagined. Nothing too bad and she's slim but a bit of loose skin around belly, not much in the ass department and her man mades are a bit misshapen and of slightly different sizes. That didn't affect performance though, very good French and she switched backed to it a couple of times from boom boom. Overall, it was fairly good despite the drawbacks.

Was pondering if I should leave at this point but it was time to take a work call so I grabbed a snack and did that from my car. Since I was already there decided to visit Candy too.

Was met by Momo, saw two other girls (not ounting the mamasan) in the hall, was told Annie is unavailable. Can't say I impressed by their looks. Momo was good though, a bit of a boyish build to her body but cute face, late 20's / early 30's, decent man mades and the service was up to the Kgirls standards. Damage was 2 on top of the house fee for the hour, was told it would have been 2 including the house fee for half.

Bro, 4 shop in 1 day? Or different days? That's hardcore!

Yes, lots of girl rotating at Candy are Chinese agencies girl that venture into AMP. This month, I had went to Hollywood, Love, Nine and Candy and Momo is still by far the most energetic.

1) Hollywood girls quality are slowly declining compare to 2 years ago and their major draw back are their walls is not against ceiling and you can hear almost anything that's happening in the shop. Won't repeat.

2) Love is limited with 2 room, so sometimes you have to wait and my Zoey experience is similar to what others has share. Young but not attractive and she loves to compliment how you look physically and literally everything about you and that's a little fakey for me. LOL.

3) Nine Spa, located in Aloha a bit far away from SE Portland side and I was running errand and decided to give it a shot. Girl name is NiNi? Mid to late 30 looking and she will not take off her cloth all the way, maybe to hide birth scar or belly? Mediocre CBJ, boring FS and everything is average or below average definitely won't repeat. She's accompanied by another older lady in her late 40's, probably shop owner or Mamasan. Beaverton / Aloha / Tigard region in general isn't on par with Portland.

4) Candy, their service queen Annie is back like some have mentioned with enhancement. Haven't gone back yet we will see. TBD

[Trumpeter]

Whether you're haggling over the price of a massage and extras or a suitcase in a shop in Shanghai, the key is to be willing to walk out. Have a price, and if they don't like it, leave. You can start on the lower side, so you come up a little and meet in the middle, but know you're top price, and don't go over.

I only take that amount in with me, so I can tell them that's all I have. That way they can't convince you to go higher when the little brain is trying to take control.

You can't cheat them because they can always say no too.

[MixedPlate89]

Oh it's like that?

Homie, ain't nobody saying it didn't happen. More surprised a rarity like that occurred and, it should happen more often.

What I stated was literally the expression of finding a curly fry in your standard order of fries.

Going around calling others narrow minded while you're taking everything personally is wild, sir.

Nonetheless, your contributions and reviews around here are much appreciated.

Yeah I probably came on too strong. A lot of cats came at me via DM & on here & some positive in DM & on here the forum so my bad. Since this response I had to adjust cause as I said I ain't here for beef or trying to prove others wrong or right etc. To me as I said to others before your response here is I ain't invested in going back & forth & trying to argue with cats who are seasoned vets with this AMP shit. I don't care that much. If cats don't believe it cool. If they believe it cool. Is what it is.

You yeah bro, you ain't saying that. Others they have. However, most were passive aggressive whereas I'm direct & after I went at them, as they attempted to deliberately prove me wrong for this community, because as I stated in replies my experience isn't relative to theirs so they had issue with it. The way they worded it suggested otherwise. I'm not taking it personally bro. It's not that deep LOL for me at all. I've never been on here & never will be on here trying to prove people right or wrong. I'm simply addressing folks given cats DM'ing me on my experiences & are & on here co-signing one another instead of directly responding to me, being passive aggressive, because it enforces their echo chamber of agreement of their experiences with other seasoned AMP cats.

That's what I'm referring to as, being narrow minded & I'm not saying Everyone I'm saying those clearly who think I'm lying because my experiences don't sound like theirs. I think they're better ways to communicate with folks & most don't know how to which is why there is a misunderstanding here. I do appreciate the response & that you find value in it. I've decided to keep it basic on reviews & summarize given I ain't trying to start shit but I will address it & than after that I end the convo & don't reply back after I address it.

[MixedPlate89]

Is the $240 including the hour house fee? So $70 + $170? In my experience that's way on the high side.

Yes. I tried for $200 for boom boom, plus hr massage & she wasn't having it LOL XD. We negotiated & I said $220, she maintained on $250, I said $240 take it or leave it & that was that LOL. $200 hasn't worked for me often but at times it has. Last time was with candy, at nice spa but it was a little bit of a haggle, as I shared my experience with her in a review here, approximately 2-3 weeks ago or so. I do think I may need to be much more firm on $200, but to me I'm okay with giving $220-260 tops & I won't go further than $260. I'm curious on what's your advice or tactics on negotiating or if you frequent these AMP's a lot more than me that perhaps assists you in landing $200 much more often than I do if you don't mind sharing.

I've just started going to AMP's, for nearing 3 months now so I am a rookie / boot LOL when it comes to this shit. I ain't trying to haggle & ruin the mood, between the masseuse & I. To be fair, although candy did slightly complain about it the service was still good, but she is in her mid 40's & a MILF, so idk if that factors in cause most of these young chicks probably unlikely to do that, at least from my experience, but I don't have as much rapport with them. They're probably 3-4 shops I have major rapport with & gone to multiple times, but I like to try new shops often so that could be why, also why they won't take $200. I've tried a lot of times though. For me, I take Public transportation everywhere so if I am traveling from for example Beaverton to Vancouver to get FS, and it takes 2 hrs LOL I ain't trying to take my ball & go home or go to other shops LOL and waste more time so that also factors in for me.

Only way I do that is if I am with my boy D if we go together, as he drives etc & I don't. That's also a factor for me compared to likely most folks on this forum. I'll continue to try $200. I'm sure I'll get some takers. I usually get an hr. Perhaps trying hh with boom boom can get me there more often or just straight into boom boom. I'm all ears if you got any tips. Thanks in advance.

[BobA0]

Was passing by and decided to check Candy but since I rarely in the area figured I'd check other places first.

So, moving East to West stopped at Hollywood on Powell and 148th, two girls one old one in her mid 30's, slim, plain face with a hint of cuteness. I didn't expect I'd be staying and was about to exit but she was pretty insistent and I figure why not. 2 for all, which included untranslated French and boom boom. Massage was decent if a bit light but she asked if light was ok and I said yes. French was decent to good, boom boom was meh. Once she took her scrubs there was a pair of very nice natural B / C tatas with pink large conical nipples but she didn't have much shape down from there albeit being slim and no ass to speak of. I was on a road for a long time and with lacklaster boom boom finish wasn't in the cards so I thanked and left at the end of my hour. Not bad but not great either, not worth a repeat in my book.

Next, I parked at Safeway on Powell and 122nd and walked to checkout Pink (all three remaining places are walking distance from that Safeway). Only one girl working and too plain to be interesting, mid to late 30's and not much shape to her body unless the dress was hiding it, not fat though.

Next, Azure, I was met by Vivi, she looks good enough in her dress, ask to see another girl but she was pulling me in the room and I didn't fight it. Told her about the price they advertise online, she was cool with that but untranslated French would require a tip which I was cool with in turn. Vivi looks to be late 30's, good make up, dressed well.

There was a modicum of massage but seems like she knows what she's doing. Unfortunately, once her dress came of the body was not that great looking as one could have imagined. Nothing too bad and she's slim but a bit of loose skin around belly, not much in the ass department and her man mades are a bit misshapen and of slightly different sizes. That didn't affect performance though, very good French and she switched backed to it a couple of times from boom boom. Overall, it was fairly good despite the drawbacks.

Was pondering if I should leave at this point but it was time to take a work call so I grabbed a snack and did that from my car. Since I was already there decided to visit Candy too.

Was met by Momo, saw two other girls (not ounting the mamasan) in the hall, was told Annie is unavailable. Can't say I impressed by their looks. Momo was good though, a bit of a boyish build to her body but cute face, late 20's / early 30's, decent man mades and the service was up to the Kgirls standards. Damage was 2 on top of the house fee for the hour, was told it would have been 2 including the house fee for half.

[Pdx503]

Is the $240 including the hour house fee? So $70 + $170? In my experience that's way on the high side.

Agreed. I never go over 1.8-2.0 all in. I got an hour there with momo last week for 1. 8. She didn't ask for more, but if she had, I would have given her the remaining. 2 in my pocket but no more. She did all the stuff to me she did to the other reporters here paying 2.5+.

I rarely even negotiate any more. I just hand then what I have and have rarely gotten push back. If they do ask for more, I just say that's all I brought and that's that.

[BluePineapple]

. I'm not here to convince you but I am here to address you directly and say that your mindset is narrow minded & comes off as someone who perhaps is dogmatic in the way they think simply because my experiences don't sound like you & your buddy here that you quoted. I'm not the same like y'all homie, respectfully. You can call it cocky or arrogant that's fine. I call it controlled confidence & swagger which sets me apart from other cats.

Oh it's like that?

Homie, ain't nobody saying it didn't happen. More surprised a rarity like that occurred and, it should happen more often.

What I stated was literally the expression of finding a curly fry in your standard order of fries.

Going around calling others narrow minded while you're taking everything personally is wild, sir.

Nonetheless, your contributions and reviews around here are much appreciated.

[Zippy69]

Is the $240 including the hour house fee? So $70 + $170? In my experience that's way on the high side.

Went to try love spa today with my guy D. We went in & Zoey gravitated towards me & Bella to D. Imo, Bella is more attractive than Zoey. I don't find Zoey to be, as attractive as others mentioned, but that's subjective & my assessment is subjective, as well in regards to her looks. Imo, Zoey is a solid 6. 5 & done up in make up etc. like the photo they sent me of her via text, she's probably a 7. Nevertheless, I find Zoey to be attractive so I took her as D wasn't into her energy & coco smelled like cigarettes LOL so no go to her. She's not bad looking for a late 30 yr old, but I'm taking Zoey at her early 20's.

So I'm just going to summarize in pts my experience with her:

-Zoey is a freak LOL. She's not as reserved as she looked. She surprised me ngl.

-Zoey likes to be spanked. She makes a sexy little moan when spanked & gets really into fucking more esp head.

- one of the best BBBJ's I had from an AMP chick. She really likes giving head.

- Likes to bite / nibble. A little too wild for me LOL. She bit my chin, neck, nibble on penis LOL, nibbled on my ass cheek LOL XD she's crazy. But I always wanted to fuck a crazy chick at least once so, although she's not my preference per se she fulfilled a fantasy of mine so I was pleased but probably wouldn't see her often unless she toned it down LOL.

- she likes to like. She liked me all over LOL minus anal cause I ain't into that shit.

- A little finger play but she wasn't into it too long & smacked my hand when I attempted to finger her more till completion. Was okay with clit play & exterior of her poonani but not inside for prolonged periods so I'm good with that. I've had some cool with it & some not which is fine.

- she's into DATY. Asked me to service her. I declined & she asked why LOL XD and I told her no. She pretty much said that she has sex with a lot of guys so she understood and said maybe next time LOL. I said no not even next time, and she dropped it.

- She's too chatty for my taste. I had to tell her to be quiet few times LOL. She kept complimenting my cologne & hair plus my eye color and other physical features. It's a turn off when you fucking and the chick trying to talk to you LOL. I'm not here to talk during sex LOL XD.

- she's into tongue kissing & biting lip & all. She'll DFS but not prolonged & she's try to suck your face LOL XD she's wild man LOL. Not a good tongue kisser or kisser as much imo.

- not into her smile. Her grill doesn't look appealing & teeth on top of teeth & slightly crooked but she's still cute.

-she's very clingy and has a dominant personality sexually. Wanted to take control of being on top and fucking me but I'm the fucker she's the fuckee no matter what LOL so I took control and she liked it, but I did kinda like the feistiness, but at the same time I didn't as it was too much at times & I prefer the submissive type.

- She's goofy LOL in her personality, but nice.

- nice natural B cup supple tits & nice nips.

- very solid at Cowgirl.

- likes her hair pulled.

- that young poonani is moist & tight asf. Yeah she a sexy little thing.

- she's a little pushy on negotiating price for FS. Tried $200 than she asked for $250, I said $220 & she stood firm on $250 I said $240 final or I am leaving before we did our business. She settled for $240 for hr massage plus FS.

- few distractions during sex for my guy D & I unfortunately. Only a total of 3, two between me & 1 for D where his girl went out to meet potential customer. Kinda wish more shops would hire someone for the front or lock the door as some AMPs do that to prevent people from coming in during sessions.

- Zoey is into some wild shit LOL. She tried to do what guys do to girls to me like pulling my hair LOL I said chill LOL shaking my head no LOL. She sucked my finger while on top of me which was hot while having eye contact.

- she's got a nice little ass on her & smooth legs.

All in all idk if I'll see her Again or often. She fulfilled a fantasy of mine to fuck a Wild chick LOL, but was a little too wild for my taste tbh. She's a cute chick with high energy, very chatty & has some GFE vibes a little. Helped me put on my clothes, wiped me off well & wiped sweat well as it lasted longer than we got but yeah it was solid. I was pleased but yeah she's wild fellas too wild for me XD so that was my experience with Zoey.

[SageSix]

Zoe sounds like she has a lot of Fire inside. Any feedback about bella?

Regarding getting interrupted, that shit grinds my gears. I've been to a few shops where I can hear my girl saying come back in 40 minutes, which I appreciate I hate it when they park the guy in another room because then they usually try to rush and get you out the door early. I get it that the girls are trying to make money but I also wonder if some shop owners pressure the girl to not let a customer leave. I'm sure many shop owners monitor the lobby cameras. There was a shop in Vancouver that would put a sign on the front door that said something like we are busy with a client please come back later. I wish other shops did that. I can't remember the shops location unfortunately.

All of us should post when shops park customers in another room and give us the rush treatment. There are several shop owners here reading our posts, maybe they'll get the message of how much we hate that kind of poor customer service. We should put those shops on blast.

Sadly, that's a common and unavoidable thing with walk in business and not just AMP. My barber knows me well and I tipped her well so even if she sees 5 customer behind me staring at her she will still patiently cut my hair and let other wait or ask them to come back. If I was just a random guy on the street that just popped in today and decided to get a haircut then can't expect any special treatment and sadly she will be rushed. I don't know about you all, but its not like I can just drive to next random barbershop and just cut my hair like AMP LOL. FYI, that barbershop don't do appointments.

To be fair, as fellow monger we can politely ask a girl how long it will take and then either come back at the promise time or wait in the car. They parked us into the room is because.

1) It will be awkward to sit in lobby to see other fellow mongers. (No privacy).

2) Or you don't mind sitting in the lobby and the next customer comes in and see room full of people and just walked out. (They lose business).

3) We are more likely to leave sitting in lobby versus parked in a room with house fee taken and maybe already undressed patiently waiting.

This goes both way too, if I walked into a shop it is a professional courtesy for someone to greet me (I don't know if shop is busy or not)! Some of you mongers park far way, it could be a full house and I wouldn't have a clue!

But lots of other mongers isn't on this forum so same courtesy won't be extended so no point setting a standard here LOL.

As for Girls, they are there to make $$ so its understandable that we are being rushed. I meant many of us have been doing it for years, not hard to tell when to do HH or Hour at our favorite location. What day of the week and what time of the day is less busy and you built from experience. If you get out of your regular routine and visit them on other days then expect the unexpected I guess. Of course, in the end of day it all depends on how that girl wants to deal with the situation, no matter how well we planned our trip. Stuff happens! Sometimes we are lucky sometimes we aren't!

As for store owners, at least for those who wants to succeed and have happy returning (regular) customers. I would assume they rather have their girls finish the 1st customer to full satisfaction and earn their return business versus having girl rushing the 1st customer and panic serving the 2nd.

In grand scheme of things, go to shops that has at least 2 to 3 girls and go when they are about to open or close to beat the traffic. Well, with that being said everyone is going to do that now? LOL JK. Remember, if you don't have patience to wait for the 1st shop and drive to next shop to give them your business, then it is only natural for the 1st shop girls to want to park the customer in a room and rushed you. We all can be the 1st customer and the parked customers. All goes around in circle