Agency Discussion

[ItsJustJayHmu]

Anyone heard about this happening for new clients? Heard they aren't taking verify info but want a first time deposit to stop no shoes / time wasters. Might be better than giving out your info since they don't take P411.

[Nrlmus]

It's specifically a risk when dealing with K-mob outfits like BTT and BAD (and Boston Temptation seems to be their new storefront).

First reason: the Feds are clearly focused on takedowns of Korean-mob run prostitution. Look around the country, or just look at Boston, they're spending time and resources to go after them.

The next reason is that it seems clear that for their overlords (the heads of the Korean mob) the business model is just to have a brothel run for a few months, maybe a couple of years, making big profits for a time while knowing that it will eventually be raided and closed. After that they just wait a few weeks and set up a new outfit. They mob bosses aren't really interested in longevity and so they don't care about those caught up in the actual arrests, since they themselves are protected by layers of distance (and are probably based in Korea anyway). They recruit some down-on-their-luck local Koreans to run the operation, and sacrifice them as soon as the LE show up. BAD was set up by a Korean guy who had studied at Berklee School of Music who bought a Lamborgini with his pay. BTT and the VA shop were run remotely by some other lowly Korean fellow. Both are in prison now for long terms. They're expendable, and the bosses just move on to find / coerce another new recruit to set up a new shop for them.

First of all BTT was locally run by Hanna who used to work for BTT as a provider. I think she got caught up in the bust.

Second, where else Korean agencies got busted lately besides BTT and its sister agency in Virginia? I think I read on the other site that there was something in Koreatown, LA but I think it was just couple of k-girls that decided to bring few clients home while they were taking a break from touring which annoyed neighbors so they called the LA finest.

I haven't heard of any busts outside of this. What did I miss? Was there Korean agencies busts in NYC or something?

[Hobbyist420]

Boston itself has a track record of busting Asian agencies, which I'd chalk up to its nanny state tendencies rather than some federal agenda. If anything, agencies have become more reckless indicating ties across various cities.

I also think the Asian agencies get more scrutiny here because they either more open, or push the envelope more, where they do their business. It which blows up their spot to neighbors / community who complain and ask LE to do something about it.

There's also this thing where agencies in US want verification from clients, creating this paper trail for LE. In Montreal, the agencies don't ask for shit.

[KOF96]

It's specifically a risk when dealing with K-mob outfits like BTT and BAD (and Boston Temptation seems to be their new storefront).

First reason: the Feds are clearly focused on takedowns of Korean-mob run prostitution. Look around the country, or just look at Boston, they're spending time and resources to go after them.

The next reason is that it seems clear that for their overlords (the heads of the Korean mob) the business model is just to have a brothel run for a few months, maybe a couple of years, making big profits for a time while knowing that it will eventually be raided and closed. After that they just wait a few weeks and set up a new outfit. They mob bosses aren't really interested in longevity and so they don't care about those caught up in the actual arrests, since they themselves are protected by layers of distance (and are probably based in Korea anyway). They recruit some down-on-their-luck local Koreans to run the operation, and sacrifice them as soon as the LE show up. BAD was set up by a Korean guy who had studied at Berklee School of Music who bought a Lamborgini with his pay. BTT and the VA shop were run remotely by some other lowly Korean fellow. Both are in prison now for long terms. They're expendable, and the bosses just move on to find / coerce another new recruit to set up a new shop for them.

As for the clients, they could give a shit about them. The record keeping is not secure, the phones are not secure, they put no effort or expense into protecting the clients. With both BTT and BAD, LE was able to recover PAPER RECORDS with personal information about clients that were being held by the brothel managers!

And let's not forget about the providers who have to work 7 days a week, long hours in an apartment with the shades closed. They don't seem to be "trafficked" in my estimation, but if we are being honest they aren't exactly their voluntarily either. There are long and deep life reasons for why these women are working for these K-mob networks -- usually debt, sometimes family obligations to mobsters back home, mixed with the financial benefits that they do eventually gain, but at a really high price.

All to say, I have used these services in the past but learned my lesson. I'd never trust my personal details to a K-girl joint. If you can get cleared otherwise, it's up to you to bear the other riskswhen LE set up shop they surveil and can access phone numbers etc without much trouble. The BTT charges are the first time clients have been charged in a situation like this and I think they are setting up a framework for doing this more expansively in the future, with public perp walks, etc. I can tell you that when the operation is inevitably shut down and raided there will be lots of former clients who have sleepless nights and ulcers for weeks while wondering if they'll be charged.

You can roll the dice and still do business with them, but you should do so with your eyes open.

Some assumptions and misinformation in this post (for example, the car was far from a Lambo but something like a used Corvette instead). Though the Feds got involved due to the multi-state nature of their operation, much of the legwork appears to have been done with the cooperation of local LE likely eager to share in the seized plunder.

Despite the trumped-up trafficking angle (with its federal cross-border implications), places like NY and Seattle / Bellevue eventually bounced back to business as usual. And while Mayor Eric Adams has been going after the low-hanging fruit in Queens / Brooklyn to distract from his own woes, no US attorney seems to be involved like the last time there was a major bust. Boston itself has a track record of busting Asian agencies, which I'd chalk up to its nanny state tendencies rather than some federal agenda. If anything, agencies have become more reckless indicating ties across various cities.

[KashkaiBoy]

It is never safe to do this, regardless of the agency there is always a bit of a risk.

It's specifically a risk when dealing with K-mob outfits like BTT and BAD (and Boston Temptation seems to be their new storefront).

First reason: the Feds are clearly focused on takedowns of Korean-mob run prostitution. Look around the country, or just look at Boston, they're spending time and resources to go after them.

The next reason is that it seems clear that for their overlords (the heads of the Korean mob) the business model is just to have a brothel run for a few months, maybe a couple of years, making big profits for a time while knowing that it will eventually be raided and closed. After that they just wait a few weeks and set up a new outfit. They mob bosses aren't really interested in longevity and so they don't care about those caught up in the actual arrests, since they themselves are protected by layers of distance (and are probably based in Korea anyway). They recruit some down-on-their-luck local Koreans to run the operation, and sacrifice them as soon as the LE show up. BAD was set up by a Korean guy who had studied at Berklee School of Music who bought a Lamborgini with his pay. BTT and the VA shop were run remotely by some other lowly Korean fellow. Both are in prison now for long terms. They're expendable, and the bosses just move on to find / coerce another new recruit to set up a new shop for them.

As for the clients, they could give a shit about them. The record keeping is not secure, the phones are not secure, they put no effort or expense into protecting the clients. With both BTT and BAD, LE was able to recover PAPER RECORDS with personal information about clients that were being held by the brothel managers!

And let's not forget about the providers who have to work 7 days a week, long hours in an apartment with the shades closed. They don't seem to be "trafficked" in my estimation, but if we are being honest they aren't exactly their voluntarily either. There are long and deep life reasons for why these women are working for these K-mob networks -- usually debt, sometimes family obligations to mobsters back home, mixed with the financial benefits that they do eventually gain, but at a really high price.

All to say, I have used these services in the past but learned my lesson. I'd never trust my personal details to a K-girl joint. If you can get cleared otherwise, it's up to you to bear the other riskswhen LE set up shop they surveil and can access phone numbers etc without much trouble. The BTT charges are the first time clients have been charged in a situation like this and I think they are setting up a framework for doing this more expansively in the future, with public perp walks, etc. I can tell you that when the operation is inevitably shut down and raided there will be lots of former clients who have sleepless nights and ulcers for weeks while wondering if they'll be charged.

You can roll the dice and still do business with them, but you should do so with your eyes open.

[MaybeSometime]

It is never safe to do this, regardless of the agency there is always a bit of a risk.

You can often use one agency to verify yourself with another without having to give them anything. I have done this a few times.

[RomeoDunn]

Is it safe to give name age ethnicity occupation and selfie to Boston Temptations?

It is never safe to do this, regardless of the agency there is always a bit of a risk.

[WolfgangPet13]

Is it safe to give name age ethnicity occupation and selfie to Boston Temptations?

[BostonGuy25]

So tried casino yesterday and once she upon the door saw what she actually looked like pretty attractive a bit old older but that only showed in the face also it was odd she used my actual name never told her I know agency's ask his when you join but I have been with bie for a awhile and never had this happen anyways she brought to her bed and before we got to it she wa like condom or no condom so raw I on the table I decided condom. So nice shower then she some BBJ little toothy the some cowgirl switch to missionary couldn't get the pop so asked how much raw would be she said just $ I said I will have to bring more next time but she actually let go raw for a pop which is something I never do little head took over so damn pop got the pop raw going to get tested wish me luck.

[Nrlmus]

Well, apparently she's coming this Monday. Try and see if CIP is there for you. I have a feeling that for most of them money talks and Karina is no exception. If she says no, ask 'what about for extra $50?' You'd be surprised how quickly they change their minds at sight of the $. LOL.

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[ShabuShabu]

' You'd be surprised how quickly they change their minds at sight of the $. LOL.

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[Nrlmus]

I tried BBFS with all of them. Not sure about Karina. To quote you "YMMV, of course. ".

Right, my point was about CIP though. Don't think all of them accept it.

Well, apparently she's coming this Monday. Try and see if CIP is there for you. I have a feeling that for most of them money talks and Karina is no exception. If she says no, ask 'what about for extra $50?' You'd be surprised how quickly they change their minds at sight of the $. LOL.

[Kinger Boy]

Who would be the best choice this weekend at BI (Jane, Poppy, Lauren, Aya, Eve, Mariana).

[Hyperion11]

I tried BBFS with all of them. Not sure about Karina. To quote you "YMMV, of course. ".

Right, my point was about CIP though. Don't think all of them accept it.

[Nrlmus]

Aiza, Karina, Eve & Robyn for sure. Most if not all with the same $100 upcharge as do k-girls.

Don't know about their Latinas. Anyone knows anything about that? I'm actually also curious. Does Aya offer BB option?

In my (limited) experience, if they do BBFS they avoid CIP. Did any of them agreed to it? YMMV, of course.

I tried BBFS with all of them. Not sure about Karina. To quote you "YMMV, of course. ".