Massage Parlor Reports

[Pdx503]

Cool. Is that from initially & new ones you visit or from ones you frequent & are considered a regular client, and by frequent I'm talking going once or more within a month? Also, I'm curious on the level of attraction which I know it's subjective, but from your perspective are the ones you get for that price between 6-7 in looks etc & are of youth you know 20-25 maybe tops 30 in age? Not saying you can't but I am under the belief that, that it's on average mostly unlikely that someone can do hh or hr plus boom boom for that price. I could be wrong but most in this forum & folks I know who do the AMP stuff paying between $220-300 with hr or hh massage plus FS. I'd like to know the places these folks are going to cause I feel like some context is needed to assess this in totality. I am curious to know full details for folks like yourself who are paying around $140-200 for hh or hr & FS, respectfully.

I try to stay between 140 and 180. I have never paid more then $$. Never even bring that much with me. I have done both 30 and 60 min depending on my mood and the girl.

I have been to many of them regularly with girls ranging in looks from 5-9. Always FS. Don't matter, price won't go past $$. I had above excellent service with Momo at candy last week for 60 min and she happily took the 1. 8 total from me. I would have given the entire $$ but a Jackson must have fell out in my car seat.

I also don't know anyone else paying more than $$. You and maybe one other guy here are the ones I see offering over $$ to $$.

[Kinksty]

Cool. Is that from initially & new ones you visit or from ones you frequent & are considered a regular client, and by frequent I'm talking going once or more within a month? Also, I'm curious on the level of attraction which I know it's subjective, but from your perspective are the ones you get for that price between 6-7 in looks etc & are of youth you know 20-25 maybe tops 30 in age? Not saying you can't but I am under the belief that, that it's on average mostly unlikely that someone can do hh or hr plus boom boom for that price. I could be wrong but most in this forum & folks I know who do the AMP stuff paying between $220-300 with hr or hh massage plus FS. I'd like to know the places these folks are going to cause I feel like some context is needed to assess this in totality. I am curious to know full details for folks like yourself who are paying around $140-200 for hh or hr & FS, respectfully.

If you are paying anything over 220/ hr total at an AMP I think you're overpaying. At least in my limited experience. I've had young, attractive under 30 women for my last 4 visits and never paid over 200 total. All were full service, 2 were very GFE and included BBBJ. At this point I don't bother trying to haggle over 180 vs 200. When it's tip time I just hand over the remainder of my 200 after the house fee. I get smiles, her dress vanishes and the fun starts. I'm there to fuck, not to spend my time pissing off the lady I'm about to stick my dick in to save 20 bucks. However, I'm not going to pay way more than needed.

The alternative to AMPs are regular providers that cost at least 250-300/ hr on the low end, are hard to schedule, flaky, sometimes ghost or cancel and often have all kinds of rules or other personal issues.

200/ hr for GFE FS without having to schedule, hot towel after and water on the way out? It's a pretty damn good deal.

[MixedPlate89]

I only do 1/2 and 80% of the time tip 120.10% of the time 100. I have never paid more than 140.

Cool. Is that from initially & new ones you visit or from ones you frequent & are considered a regular client, and by frequent I'm talking going once or more within a month? Also, I'm curious on the level of attraction which I know it's subjective, but from your perspective are the ones you get for that price between 6-7 in looks etc & are of youth you know 20-25 maybe tops 30 in age? Not saying you can't but I am under the belief that, that it's on average mostly unlikely that someone can do hh or hr plus boom boom for that price. I could be wrong but most in this forum & folks I know who do the AMP stuff paying between $220-300 with hr or hh massage plus FS. I'd like to know the places these folks are going to cause I feel like some context is needed to assess this in totality. I am curious to know full details for folks like yourself who are paying around $140-200 for hh or hr & FS, respectfully.

[SageSix]

Before 2020 there were a few apartment / motel setups for 1. 6 for the hour. The quality of the girl was always a crapshoot but at least there was a bed. Sometimes you get a fat, ugly and sometimes you may get a cute spinner. Come to think of it, the massage girls these days many seem into pleasing and less robotic dead fishes like before.

There are still quite a few in Portland and is not open to public, like they only take customer in from referral basis. They also have enough customer basis that they don't need to advertise. Of course, the starting rate are $300, different kind of clientele than average AMP clients.

Those girls are usually much younger in 20 - 25 range with more Intune skills to their own racial ethnics clientele. Once a while they will have Japanese rotation and girls that actually played a roled in Japanese AV and they offer BBFS and for those that love BB, you are in luck. But very rare in Portland, easy to find in LA and NewYork.

The market rate for AMP isn't worth it for most of those girls to venture out and for us monger to experience.

Sometimes we might get lucky, few have rotation in AMP once a while but only in busier AMP stores.

[Zippy69]

Very valid & fair pts indeed I have paid premium or more because of the nuance of the overall experience with mostly one woman who really takes a liking to me & I to her. She has been total GFE with me & has texted me often & to me it's worth it. It all depends on what one values in said experience & how they feel within that experience with said masseuse. It's subjective at best. I don't believe personally folks paying $80 for FS as some have suggested or $200 total unless & I could be wrong but imo, unless:

1. Women is older & not as much clients.

2. Chemistry with said girl & being a regular going to see her weekly-monthly or in between that time frame.

3. Not as attractive.

4. Slow days & she'll take just about anything.

Again I can be wrong with any of these. However, I think at best perhaps $240-300 with hr massage plus FS. Of course as you indicated their is a possibility of skipping massage & just sex for $140-200 etc or even getting 30 minute massage than FS. Not saying it's impossible & that it couldn't be any reason that I didn't listed. I'm just under that belief for most folks that it's $240-300 areas particularly for 60 min massage than FS etc or perhaps they can even mean just a BBBJ or CBJ, hand job with massage etc so who knows but yeah is what it is. If folks can get less for a massage plus FS cool. Think either way it's worth a shot to get lower esp if they get 3-4 customers a day at $100 min per day that's $300 in a day & $8400 a month. I'm sure a percentage goes to shop & they may get 70 or so Maybe 50/50 split between owner of shop & masseuses. Either way monthly low in they can make between $4000 & as high as 8 k-10 k & that's untaxed ofc. I think it's fair for $200 overall for a massage & poonani. Think more clients will frequent more but I get it supply & demand. For me I'm only going mostly once a month & at times twice a month so I don't mind paying slightly higher than most. However, negotiations tactics should be discussed some all open to it thanks for sharing your perspective.

I only do 1/2 and 80% of the time tip 120.10% of the time 100. I have never paid more than 140.

[Pdx503]

My perspectives on this are.

I can find incall providers (some I've already seen and had a pleasurable time with) for a price range from $160 - $220 for a hh that I know I won't have to haggle or negotiate with at all (there's only ONE reason to visit them, and a massage ain't it! I'll get to see a photo of them beforehand, or have met them already, and I'll pretty much know what I'm getting into.

So, to ME, the key allure for an AMP is 1) Variety and 2) a fairly reliable price cap; but one I'll have to negotiate for; luckily, my negotiations have been short (and sweet). The downsides are 1) Not having a preview 2) the language barrier, which pretty much prohibits any kind of "connection" and 3) the limitation to just Asian women.

Thus, it kind of depends on what I'm looking for in the moment. If I just need a release without any connection, the AMP is probably a better bet than a higher rate (where you're talking $240 - 300 for a hh) for new "strange" that you can preview first, and read reviews of ahead of time, but risk is, you don't know what the chemistry will be. Even with reviews and previews, you will at times be disappointed. Late last year I saw a very well reviewed and previewed provider who I thought would rock my world, and I was completely underwhelmed, almost to the point of wishing I had never bothered. Them's the breaks sometimes.

If I want to be sure I won't be disappointed, or don't want to spend / risk a lot, I can always return to one I've seen before (one provider I know I can see for a "grandfathered" 220 rate is possibly the best in the business, but of course, she's also very familiar now and doesn't fit the bill if I want "variety"; I go catch up with her about once per year).

I guess the short answer (for those of you who don't like these long-winded posts): Depends.

Before 2020 there were a few apartment / motel setups for 1. 6 for the hour. The quality of the girl was always a crapshoot but at least there was a bed. Sometimes you get a fat, ugly and sometimes you may get a cute spinner. Come to think of it, the massage girls these days many seem into pleasing and less robotic dead fishes like before.

[MixedPlate89]

My perspectives on this are.

I can find incall providers (some I've already seen and had a pleasurable time with) for a price range from $160 - $220 for a hh that I know I won't have to haggle or negotiate with at all (there's only ONE reason to visit them, and a massage ain't it! I'll get to see a photo of them beforehand, or have met them already, and I'll pretty much know what I'm getting into.

Great add & I enjoy in depth responses so thank you for that. Yeah I usually do an hour & than boom boom or 15 minutes of massage than flip than boom boom.

Than rest of time massage in areas of need. It's definitely a risk going to new places etc & wasting time & perhaps money. I have some go to places where rate is fairly guaranteed at $260 for hr massage plus boom boom etc, but it's far for me living in Beaverton in the Tanasbourne area to go over to Holgate in deeper Portland SE etc. I'm definitely either going there for my bday next week plus or a spot I go to in Beaverton they're at least 2-3 options I have but I do want to at least have 10 options on familiarity where what you're describing per se in your review is the dynamic for me & any way you slice it it's trial & error initially for everyone.

The saying for me is you got to be willing to take L's at times in life overall with anything to get to the W's. As for photos yeah I'd text places & they provided photos & the main go to's for me mostly was accurate with slight enhancement & it was great. At this pt though I am considering just going in for FS especially being it's going to make it cheaper or half hour. Some of the places I go to the massage is solid. I do have my main go to spot called aloha massage in Beaverton when I just want an excellent massage & healing I go there only. They're times I went to a AMP to get off etc then headed there after to get an hr massage cause most of these AMP the massage ain't legit plus lots of sexual touching etc LOL & light touching to stimulate and get man X hard LOL etc.

I would think they want house fee of massage so as a rookie AMP guy, didn't know that was an option to just get right into the action but wouldn't mind it. $160-220 yeah that's solid. Lowest I paid was about $180-$220 with someone I built chemistry with but ofc most men like new poonani LOL so it is what it is but like you said it's always good to have ole reliable in your pocket to pull out when needed. So I got to be smarter about this as a rookie AMP dude just starting like a month to 2 months or so now.

Yeah the language barrier LOL in the middle of massage etc phones got to be pulled out LOL and time taken away just to communicate properly LOL so yeah it can take away from quality & time & make things a little unpleasant but once those kinks are worked out you good. For me Asian women are my favorite ethnic of women with Latina being second. I don't mind just FS by Asian women mostly etc. I would like variety of different ethnic ofc, but I don't think their is an MP place that isn't Asian that offers FS etc to my knowledge unless you do escorts, street walkers or peeps advertising themselves on Craigslist & other sites in which I'm not as interested in personally but I'd be open to it but idk seems even more risky than an AMP or meeting up at a hotel or these agencies type of stuff.

The girls do tend to alternate too in these AMP's so that also can be a problem cause if you like one she can go to a different state as some of the ones I liked have or just overall another shop but that's why you get their numbers ofc & they tell you where they went to as some girls I frequent with do. That's true on previews / reviews. I went to a place called nice spa in Beaverton where a bud of mine previewed a girl named Eengie. I had a disappointing experience with her, as she complained about my dick being too big & said she liked small dicks plus she was very pushy on tips & asked me in middle of sex if I came already LOL trying to rush me & cut out time short of an hr to HH smh & went to deal with likely a regular. I'll never see her again. Massage was okay though. Yeah, I'm glad my homie enjoyed himself but me yeah it was disappointing. However, another girl came in name candy who was older but a sexy MILF with a banging body as she didn't charge for a HJ, plus some BJ action and boob action etc & some massage. I should of got her. I'm generally into younger women but always wanted to fuck a MILF. I would of had a great time with her but yeah just to lend to your example of previews / reviews of places I never been to plus no pics of girls either & relying on my homie's review of girls plus she wasn't as attractive as he said either which is subjective ofc but to him she was a 7, to me a 6 but her tatas were natural & she didn't really have an ass LOL as he said but yeah, it happens learning experience but it lead me to candy who didn't charge extra & told me even for HJ & BJ plus being able to fill up on her, no extra charge. She finished what Eengie didn't plus set the table for when I see her next time.

Yeah I hear ya bro. $220 grandfather rate is solid so yeah I feel you. Great stuff man. Thanks for sharing. I can't wait for my bday weekend near mid March. I may try two one reliable & another new one or that candy chick at nice spa. Be well AMP brother salute.

[Urlboffer]

My perspectives on this are.

I can find incall providers (some I've already seen and had a pleasurable time with) for a price range from $160 - $220 for a hh that I know I won't have to haggle or negotiate with at all (there's only ONE reason to visit them, and a massage ain't it! I'll get to see a photo of them beforehand, or have met them already, and I'll pretty much know what I'm getting into.

So, to ME, the key allure for an AMP is 1) Variety and 2) a fairly reliable price cap; but one I'll have to negotiate for; luckily, my negotiations have been short (and sweet). The downsides are 1) Not having a preview 2) the language barrier, which pretty much prohibits any kind of "connection" and 3) the limitation to just Asian women.

Thus, it kind of depends on what I'm looking for in the moment. If I just need a release without any connection, the AMP is probably a better bet than a higher rate (where you're talking $240 - 300 for a hh) for new "strange" that you can preview first, and read reviews of ahead of time, but risk is, you don't know what the chemistry will be. Even with reviews and previews, you will at times be disappointed. Late last year I saw a very well reviewed and previewed provider who I thought would rock my world, and I was completely underwhelmed, almost to the point of wishing I had never bothered. Them's the breaks sometimes.

If I want to be sure I won't be disappointed, or don't want to spend / risk a lot, I can always return to one I've seen before (one provider I know I can see for a "grandfathered" 220 rate is possibly the best in the business, but of course, she's also very familiar now and doesn't fit the bill if I want "variety"; I go catch up with her about once per year).

I guess the short answer (for those of you who don't like these long-winded posts): Depends.

Very valid & fair pts indeed I have paid premium or more because of the nuance of the overall experience with mostly one woman who really takes a liking to me & I to her. She has been total GFE with me & has texted me often & to me it's worth it. It all depends on what one values in said experience & how they feel within that experience with said masseuse. It's subjective at best. I don't believe personally folks paying $80 for FS as some have suggested or $200 total unless & I could be wrong but imo, unless:

1. Women is older & not as much clients.

2. Chemistry with said girl & being a regular going to see her weekly-monthly or in between that time frame.

3. Not as attractive.

4. Slow days & she'll take just about anything.

Again I can be wrong with any of these. However, I think at best perhaps $240-300 with hr massage plus FS. Of course as you indicated their is a possibility of skipping massage & just sex for $140-200 etc or even getting 30 minute massage than FS. Not saying it's impossible & that it couldn't be any reason that I didn't listed. I'm just under that belief for most folks that it's $240-300 areas particularly for 60 min massage than FS etc or perhaps they can even mean just a BBBJ or CBJ, hand job with massage etc so who knows but yeah is what it is. If folks can get less for a massage plus FS cool. Think either way it's worth a shot to get lower esp if they get 3-4 customers a day at $100 min per day that's $300 in a day & $8400 a month. I'm sure a percentage goes to shop & they may get 70 or so Maybe 50/50 split between owner of shop & masseuses. Either way monthly low in they can make between $4000 & as high as 8 k-10 k & that's untaxed ofc. I think it's fair for $200 overall for a massage & poonani. Think more clients will frequent more but I get it supply & demand. For me I'm only going mostly once a month & at times twice a month so I don't mind paying slightly higher than most. However, negotiations tactics should be discussed some all open to it thanks for sharing your perspective.

[MixedPlate89]

Valid point, except if I *feel* something is a fast food value I will paid <$200 and if something its luxury food value then I will go over $200.

Then if its 2nd visit, I will pay base on past experience and build from that.

If one is just there for quick release and just to fill up their belly, then $200 standard rate is perfectly fine too. Quick and easy

Or if you like some foreplay and massage before the main course and booked a 1 hour session and had a great time. Then pay what you think it's worth and not what it should worth. Especially those who has tried 4 hands and 6 hands and has achieved King of the World.

Of course, being a regular you get perks and special treatments ^_^ for those that made it there.

I don't know, I feel like we should also take inflation into account, after all it doesn't worth the same year by year. JK $_$

Very valid & fair pts indeed I have paid premium or more because of the nuance of the overall experience with mostly one woman who really takes a liking to me & I to her. She has been total GFE with me & has texted me often & to me it's worth it. It all depends on what one values in said experience & how they feel within that experience with said masseuse. It's subjective at best. I don't believe personally folks paying $80 for FS as some have suggested or $200 total unless & I could be wrong but imo, unless:

1. Women is older & not as much clients.

2. Chemistry with said girl & being a regular going to see her weekly-monthly or in between that time frame.

3. Not as attractive.

4. Slow days & she'll take just about anything.

Again I can be wrong with any of these. However, I think at best perhaps $240-300 with hr massage plus FS. Of course as you indicated their is a possibility of skipping massage & just sex for $140-200 etc or even getting 30 minute massage than FS. Not saying it's impossible & that it couldn't be any reason that I didn't listed. I'm just under that belief for most folks that it's $240-300 areas particularly for 60 min massage than FS etc or perhaps they can even mean just a BBBJ or CBJ, hand job with massage etc so who knows but yeah is what it is. If folks can get less for a massage plus FS cool. Think either way it's worth a shot to get lower esp if they get 3-4 customers a day at $100 min per day that's $300 in a day & $8400 a month. I'm sure a percentage goes to shop & they may get 70 or so Maybe 50/50 split between owner of shop & masseuses. Either way monthly low in they can make between $4000 & as high as 8 k-10 k & that's untaxed ofc. I think it's fair for $200 overall for a massage & poonani. Think more clients will frequent more but I get it supply & demand. For me I'm only going mostly once a month & at times twice a month so I don't mind paying slightly higher than most. However, negotiations tactics should be discussed some all open to it thanks for sharing your perspective.

[SageSix]

I am very new to this AMP shit & got a lot to learn. From my recent experience, an extra $20 isn't prevalent per se. In my recent FS experience at Nice Spa she wanted more than $230 originally so I'm like I had $260 I was okay with spending that. I said no to more as she wanted $300 plus. She definitely had GPS & generally other shops don't haggle but part of my issue is, is that I use public transportation so I'm like shit I'd have to go elsewhere & that takes time LOL so part of it is laziness & just saying fuck it I'll take it but that's one me where I got to say naw fuck it I'm paying this or I'm leaving. I have to have better frame when negotiating etc at these AMP's. I'm curious from your experience though when you pay $200 when they want more do they treat you less & or turn you away & say they're busy when you come back next time? Some have done that to me when I paid less in the past.

It could reduce the quality of service but you're right if I pay more they'll expect more. Very few charged reasonably like at Kai yuan or Asian flower spa not for FS but extras & even said to me give me what you think is fair & they didn't argue it. Those individuals are gone though & in NY now. I do think $200 is never reasonable given how much they make monthly they can certainly be fine with $70 for massage for an hr & $130 extra equaling $200 for FS. Definitely going to try it next time & onward & say I'm good if they want full service & just start taking the massage. Ofc, I am dude LOL with a high sex drive so it's difficult LOL at times, but you're right. Thanks for the candid advice. Duly noted.

Valid point, except if I *feel* something is a fast food value I will paid <$200 and if something its luxury food value then I will go over $200.

Then if its 2nd visit, I will pay base on past experience and build from that.

If one is just there for quick release and just to fill up their belly, then $200 standard rate is perfectly fine too. Quick and easy

Or if you like some foreplay and massage before the main course and booked a 1 hour session and had a great time. Then pay what you think it's worth and not what it should worth. Especially those who has tried 4 hands and 6 hands and has achieved King of the World.

Of course, being a regular you get perks and special treatments ^_^ for those that made it there.

I don't know, I feel like we should also take inflation into account, after all it doesn't worth the same year by year. JK $_$

[SageSix]

I've been watching these threads for a couple years now. And all of a sudden people have been posting extremely long reviews. Honestly is seems a little strange to me and it feels like some of them are just using a ton of filler words and over explaining all of the details. Shilling has been a recent topic and I feel like some of this could be that because if a AMP is slow they can have hours to type all of this stuff out and just mentioning a bunch of places to them maybe makes it seem less suspicious, plants the thoughts of visiting some of these lesser known places in our heads without making it seem to favor one more than the other.

You could be 100% right or 100% wrong! But personally to me, whether they are shilling or whether they are genuine does it really matter?

What category are there?

1) Paid writers?

2) Shop owners & affiliate (working girls) who speak / write fluent English?

3) Regular customers who loves to share or being asked by shop to advertise!

4) Someone who has nothing better to do and just like to make up stories on this forum?

5) ALL OF You. For whatever reason you post on this forum? (Fill in the blank) LOL.

Take away --> THE TRULY INTELLIGENT PERSON IS ONE WHO CAN PRETEND TO BE A FOOL IN FRONT OF FOOL WHO PRETEND TO BE INTELLIGENT.

Let's focus on why this forum was created and just enjoy the journey ^_^

[MixedPlate89]

If you look at the AMP Ratings links frequently posted here, you see that there are any number of posted reviews behind a paywall. Price per month is pretty steep, if you ask me. I wonder if this "Cliff Notes" monger would pay for that, and if so, if he would be happy with reviews like, "Went (fill in name of place). Standard finish. Meh massage. Cute girl. ".

Some people just don't like to READ. *Anything*. I'm on the opposite side of that spectrum. And I come here for the DETAILS. I can't STAND reviews so terse that they make me wonder why the f* the dude even posted it.

Yeah first time user & still learning this site etc. They don't given the society we live in most have short attention spans, and are wanting results fast on things so they don't care for nuance or substance. We agree there. I'm not into the vague reviews whatsoever. Moreover, I would pay $47-69 or so for reviews on rub maps etc. I'd just come here for reviews & or find other free forums or talk to folks I personally know for real authentic reviews. I'd pay under $20 for it but not that amount near $70 or so.

[Urlboffer]

I was going to respond to him but most don't like to read & have short attention spans & I don't like passive aggressive comments. Furthermore, I'm very direct but I just joined & find value in this forum so I'm not trying to get kicked LOL XD so I said let me not respond. However, being you responded & reflected on things I would have said plus more LOL I had to reply. I agree. I'm the same way. I'm a detailed individual & that's how my brain works. I prefer details. I write how I talk in person being very vivid & expressive etc & English was one of my fav subjects & writing etc so I'm with you on that Brodie.

It is very amusing indeed of his accusations. If he doesn't like it just keep scrolling & find shirt reviews. I personally value details & want to see things through the person's eyes as if I was there, encapsulating the experience in totality. Some of us are just like that. It's no biggy. I don't need to have fillers & or lie about things, as I said in my candy massage review. All in all, short reviews or not I have found value in this thread. We can agree that the common ground is just have details such as name of AMP, perhaps girls & the services they offer & perhaps cost etc. Most short reviews I've seen were lacking in details & most long reviews I've seen were not. Just my perspective.

If you look at the AMP Ratings links frequently posted here, you see that there are any number of posted reviews behind a paywall. Price per month is pretty steep, if you ask me. I wonder if this "Cliff Notes" monger would pay for that, and if so, if he would be happy with reviews like, "Went (fill in name of place). Standard finish. Meh massage. Cute girl. ".

Some people just don't like to READ. *Anything*. I'm on the opposite side of that spectrum. And I come here for the DETAILS. I can't STAND reviews so terse that they make me wonder why the f* the dude even posted it.

[MixedPlate89]

I go to the same places. I give $$ and they know the routine. FS all the way no haggling or I tell them go get me money. Then they stop and proceed with pleasing me.

Fair enough. That'll be corrected expeditiously. Thanks for the objective constructive criticism.

[DickRk]

I am very new to this AMP shit & got a lot to learn. From my recent experience, an extra $20 isn't prevalent per se. In my recent FS experience at Nice Spa she wanted more than $230 originally so I'm like I had $260 I was okay with spending that. I said no to more as she wanted $300 plus. She definitely had GPS & generally other shops don't haggle but part of my issue is, is that I use public transportation so I'm like shit I'd have to go elsewhere & that takes time LOL so part of it is laziness & just saying fuck it I'll take it but that's one me where I got to say naw fuck it I'm paying this or I'm leaving. I have to have better frame when negotiating etc at these AMP's. I'm curious from your experience though when you pay $200 when they want more do they treat you less & or turn you away & say they're busy when you come back next time? Some have done that to me when I paid less in the past.

It could reduce the quality of service but you're right if I pay more they'll expect more. Very few charged reasonably like at Kai yuan or Asian flower spa not for FS but extras & even said to me give me what you think is fair & they didn't argue it. Those individuals are gone though & in NY now. I do think $200 is never reasonable given how much they make monthly they can certainly be fine with $70 for massage for an hr & $130 extra equaling $200 for FS. Definitely going to try it next time & onward & say I'm good if they want full service & just start taking the massage. Ofc, I am dude LOL with a high sex drive so it's difficult LOL at times, but you're right. Thanks for the candid advice. Duly noted.

I go to the same places. I give $$ and they know the routine. FS all the way no haggling or I tell them go get me money. Then they stop and proceed with pleasing me.