OPSEC. Operattional Security

[Proflou2019]

Do you mean like, I get WIFI free at Hilton? But that is based on them recognizing me as one of their frequent travelers. So they know it is me from my computer. Like cookies. How would that be safe? I mean Hilton doesn't have motivation to out me to my warden, but they could do it inadvertently.

Yeah, Hilton has zero interest in outing you, but that's not really the point. If you're otherwise outed, your devices CAN be inspected and logs subpoenaed from owners of WiFi's you used to further whatever investigation may be happening.

Lou.

[Proflou2019]

If you have a blanket hotel wifi password you are OK.

If you login with your username and room number, they got you.

Not how it works. Every physical device that connects to a WiFi has a unique hardware descriptor. I guarantee you in these managed systems like hotels use, EVERY device that connects is logged, and where you go while connected is tracked.

Same with the WiFi at Mickey D's, Starbucks, the mall, whatever.

Lou.

[DarkStar58]

Do you mean like, I get WIFI free at Hilton? But that is based on them recognizing me as one of their frequent travelers. So they know it is me from my computer. Like cookies. How would that be safe? I mean Hilton doesn't have motivation to out me to my warden, but they could do it inadvertently.

I Assume yes if log-in with your name and room # and or if you are Honors or Bonvoy member. Most hotel chains have "free public wifi" with very limited bandwidth and have the ability to block VPN's due to security concerns. This doesn't have anything to do with Opsec but some hotels chains even block HDMI ports on TV's; I found that out at a Hilton when I plugged my Amazon firestick in to watch Thursday night football.

[FarFarAway]

If you have a blanket hotel wifi password you are OK.

If you login with your username and room number, they got you.

Do you mean like, I get WIFI free at Hilton? But that is based on them recognizing me as one of their frequent travelers. So they know it is me from my computer. Like cookies. How would that be safe? I mean Hilton doesn't have motivation to out me to my warden, but they could do it inadvertently.

[Max #01]

Nope, no "sure fire safe way". All wifi can be tracked to an extent. But so can the cellular in your phone, so. *shrugs*.

Lou.

Whenever I'm in a hotel, mongering or not, I always use a VPN before logging in. Again, not foolproof, but better than nothing.

[Quriusmrk]

Anyone had any success, or other experiences with Mint Mobile as an alternate phone?

Thanks,

Q.

[SonChi]

Nope, no "sure fire safe way". All wifi can be tracked to an extent. But so can the cellular in your phone, so. .

If you have a blanket hotel wifi password you are OK.

If you login with your username and room number, they got you.

[Proflou2019]

In a bigger question, what if any way should we be using WiFi when we are in no-tell hotels? Is there a for sure safe way to do so?

Nope, no "sure fire safe way". All wifi can be tracked to an extent. But so can the cellular in your phone, so. *shrugs*.

Lou.

[FarFarAway]

I was FCing w / a SB in a hotel she booked. I thought I would get her to tell me about her fantasies and find them on a porn site to show her, to get her going.

I brought my regular laptop to the hotel. I turned on WiFi and started to connect. Even though it was a down-market brand, I realized then that it was part of the Marriott group, because the name came up on my WiFi. I just stayed in a Marriott last weekend on a pleasure trip, and my WiFi perked right up when it saw it could connect to a Marriott local network. I suddenly feared Marriott might connect me to my IRL identity being in that hotel. I didn't want that to happen so I killed my WiFi. Do you think this will come back to haunt me? Is Marriott now going to be spamming me for the hotel my SB booked?

In a bigger question, what if any way should we be using WiFi when we are in no-tell hotels? Is there a for sure safe way to do so?

[SlyFrog]

Thank you. This is great information.

I think I will stick with a burner app for now.

Having two sims on the same phone has its pros and cons. If you want to truly segment personal and hobby life, this doesn't quite get you there. Some folks suggest a burner phone with an esim that is only turned on away from home when hobbying. You can achieve this with a secondary esim on your personal device, but remember that it has all your apps and other information still on the device from your primary use.

Also, you need to be careful to toggle the sims off when not using. Its easy to accidentally send a message from the wrong sim to someone. Weigh what works for you and whether you have the discipline to work with two sims on the same device.

[Dm311]

I use to use a burner phone, but switched to a burner app a couple years ago so I would not have to carry around a second phone. Now I have a phone that supports multiple eSIMs. Has anyone used this? Any recommendations?

Having two sims on the same phone has its pros and cons. If you want to truly segment personal and hobby life, this doesn't quite get you there. Some folks suggest a burner phone with an esim that is only turned on away from home when hobbying. You can achieve this with a secondary esim on your personal device, but remember that it has all your apps and other information still on the device from your primary use.

Also, you need to be careful to toggle the sims off when not using. Its easy to accidentally send a message from the wrong sim to someone. Weigh what works for you and whether you have the discipline to work with two sims on the same device.

[FarFarAway]

I saw this on the AR site. Not sure where but found this interesting and I wonder if the monger's future ex may have been on to him and had a PI snoop around.

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[DarkRai2]

I saw this on the AR site. Not sure where but found this interesting and I wonder if the monger's future ex may have been on to him and had a PI snoop around. https://a*********.net/index.php?thr...ovider.258181/.

[SlyFrog]

I use to use a burner phone, but switched to a burner app a couple years ago so I would not have to carry around a second phone. Now I have a phone that supports multiple eSIMs. Has anyone used this? Any recommendations?

[FarFarAway]

I got a burner from TracFone I posted about earlier. I needed a new IRL phone, and ended up getting exactly the same model, Galaxy A15. I figure this works for me. I am always worried about a burner being found, so long as I never have both together, it is very hard to which is which.

Setting up a new Android phone was scary. I had to go through a bunch of apps and opt out of all sorts of privacy-robbing access they wanted to other things on my phone. Yes, IK that reduces their functionality, but it also reduces the ability that Google is able to invade my privacy. One in particular that freaked me out, the phone wanted the right to look for other devices in proximity (such as my burner phone) to connect to.

I turned off as many of those things as I could. I have posted earlier never to have WiFi on your IRL phone when you are someplace you wouldn't want to be known. It was apparent that all of these things, and location services in particular for apps, could reveal the same. Never never never.