NoVA SugarBabies

[Old Chinese Guy]

So, this was my approach when I was in the bowl.

The approach works with many new to Seeking girls who don't want to admit to themselves that they are selling their pussy. It is based on the premiss that the party that has the money calls the shots and that there are MANY POT SB out-there and very few "real" SD's. Also lines up with their desire to be "spoiled". Heck, sometimes new SBs with platonic in their profile would head to the FC with me after the M&G. Most headed to the FC on date 2.

Over 12 months this worked for me with 13 SB, all bare, 50% CIP. I am no longer in the game, I hit the lottery (figuratively) my last SB is now SO, since 2019,38 year age gap. HAHA, life is very good.

Guidelines:

1. Craft your profile as an experienced SD looking for a new SB after a previous LT SR ended due to SB moving away, finding someone in RL, etc. Say in your profile that you will absolutely never ask them to meet you at a hotel on a first meet and also you are not looking for a platonic SB, you are looking for a real connection. Again. Say in your profile that you are looking for a real connection with the right lady, intimacy is not expected but as in normal relationships, if there is a connection, intimacy will quickly and naturally follow.

2. In the DM's. Never discuss money with the POT SB. When she presses, say first you are sure that this does not apply to her but you are not looking for a working girl, prostitute, escort, or anyone looking to be paid for sex. You are looking for a smart, sexy SB to connect with and help financially. Say that the way that you will help is that at the end of a date (with adult fun) you will give her an envelope. This way YOU decide how much to give. Tell her that you are looking to meet weekly and after 2 or 3 months you can switch to a monthly envelope..

Good advice and strategy. It does avoid the senseless negotiation upfront and basically screens the fackos out and forces trust on the part of the SB. I've had my share of SBs and I concur the going rate is and should be 300. Prices are driven up when inexperienced SDs pay more. Then word gets around that this SB got this much from a SD and expectations go up.

I too am no longer active in the sugar bowl save the one SB I see regularly for a couple of years now (started at 300 and now give a little bit more). Unfortunately, I don't think it will ever progress to more than just a SD-SB relationship. It is hard to progress to something vanilla once the relationship starts on the basis of a financial transaction. Also, we definitely have very different ideas about parenting. I know she'd want kids, I've had mine and not starting from scratch again.

Not saying that a real relationship which starts on a financial basis cannot happen. I used to be close to an escort who ended up meeting a guy on vanilla dating sites and stopped escorting when he married her. But from talking to her over the years, I know that although she might love him, she was and is never in love with him and would leave if the going got bad for any reason, financially or personally. Also he did not know of her alternative life or he would have left her.

So I'd ask oneself if you are in a long term relationship with someone you met either as an escort of SB, especially if there is an almost 40 year age gap (there is an almost 30 year age gap in mine), would she stay if there was no financial stability? I'm pretty sure mine wouldn't. Sex is great but definitely not enough for her to stay if the financial security wasn't there. You really have to put yourself in the shoes of an 20- or 30-something and why they would be with someone 30-40 years older. The experience of an older man is one thing for sure but am pretty sure financial stability is the main reason. That's why I'm back in the vanilla world looking for someone who already has the financial stability I have and they want to be with me for other reasons other than money.

[PRMan12]

So, this was my approach when I was in the bowl.

The approach works with many new to Seeking girls who don't want to admit to themselves that they are selling their pussy. It is based on the premiss that the party that has the money calls the shots and that there are MANY POT SB out-there and very few "real" SD's. Also lines up with their desire to be "spoiled". Heck, sometimes new SBs with platonic in their profile would head to the FC with me after the M&G. Most headed to the FC on date 2.

Over 12 months this worked for me with 13 SB, all bare, 50% CIP. I am no longer in the game, I hit the lottery (figuratively) my last SB is now SO, since 2019,38 year age gap. HAHA, life is very good.

Guidelines:

1. Craft your profile as an experienced SD looking for a new SB after a previous LT SR ended due to SB moving away, finding someone in RL, etc. Say in your profile that you will absolutely never ask them to meet you at a hotel on a first meet and also you are not looking for a platonic SB, you are looking for a real connection. Again. Say in your profile that you are looking for a real connection with the right lady, intimacy is not expected but as in normal relationships, if there is a connection, intimacy will quickly and naturally follow.

2. In the DM's. Never discuss money with the POT SB. When she presses, say first you are sure that this does not apply to her but you are not looking for a working girl, prostitute, escort, or anyone looking to be paid for sex. You are looking for a smart, sexy SB to connect with and help financially. Say that the way that you will help is that at the end of a date (with adult fun) you will give her an envelope. This way YOU decide how much to give. Tell her that you are looking to meet weekly and after 2 or 3 months you can switch to a monthly envelope.

3. When she says "what if the amount in the envelope is not enough", respond "as in any relationship if there is an issue, we do the adult thing and talk to resolve the issue". In my experience, when a SB that I had fucked complained about the amount (only one of 13, my normal was 300 per envelope), I said, "that is all I have in my budget", sorry if it does not work for you, do you want to cancel our date this week? She said, "no that is fine". Also make sure that she cums a shit-ton the first time you have sex, get down there and lick her pussy like it is the last pussy on earth (google lesbian guide to pussy licking) before fucking her. It seems that young men these days don't enjoy dining at the why.

This is a great post! Do a lot of what is outlined but will fine tune my game. My # of SB's is much higher in past year, but 300 is the # you should be looking for! Can't always get there, but its enough for most for their time. Some will still hold out for 5 or say they never go below 8, etc. This is a fun game, to try and get them for the lowest amount and then have them be ok with that amount for continuous times. I only go for for 8's or better so you will miss out on a few, but even those you can have for 5, and if you follow the game plan can possibly get some to be ok with 3 moving forward. We all are looking for the unicorn, but they are as well and for them, they also want to feel safe, have fun, and in their minds make sure they are valued. In their minds, the higher the # the higher the value, but they also would rather be spending their time with someone who they feel safe with and treats them nicely. They all have been on enough bad dates that the good ones stand out and those are the ones they are willing to take a little less from so they avoid the headaches.

[VeryBigBuck]

I'll be in town for a week. What's the real range you guys are paying per meet? The SBs quoting $500-$600.

So, this was my approach when I was in the bowl.

The approach works with many new to Seeking girls who don't want to admit to themselves that they are selling their pussy. It is based on the premiss that the party that has the money calls the shots and that there are MANY POT SB out-there and very few "real" SD's. Also lines up with their desire to be "spoiled". Heck, sometimes new SBs with platonic in their profile would head to the FC with me after the M&G. Most headed to the FC on date 2.

Over 12 months this worked for me with 13 SB, all bare, 50% CIP. I am no longer in the game, I hit the lottery (figuratively) my last SB is now SO, since 2019,38 year age gap. HAHA, life is very good.

Guidelines:

1. Craft your profile as an experienced SD looking for a new SB after a previous LT SR ended due to SB moving away, finding someone in RL, etc. Say in your profile that you will absolutely never ask them to meet you at a hotel on a first meet and also you are not looking for a platonic SB, you are looking for a real connection. Again. Say in your profile that you are looking for a real connection with the right lady, intimacy is not expected but as in normal relationships, if there is a connection, intimacy will quickly and naturally follow.

2. In the DM's. Never discuss money with the POT SB. When she presses, say first you are sure that this does not apply to her but you are not looking for a working girl, prostitute, escort, or anyone looking to be paid for sex. You are looking for a smart, sexy SB to connect with and help financially. Say that the way that you will help is that at the end of a date (with adult fun) you will give her an envelope. This way YOU decide how much to give. Tell her that you are looking to meet weekly and after 2 or 3 months you can switch to a monthly envelope.

3. When she says "what if the amount in the envelope is not enough", respond "as in any relationship if there is an issue, we do the adult thing and talk to resolve the issue". In my experience, when a SB that I had fucked complained about the amount (only one of 13, my normal was 300 per envelope), I said, "that is all I have in my budget", sorry if it does not work for you, do you want to cancel our date this week? She said, "no that is fine". Also make sure that she cums a shit-ton the first time you have sex, get down there and lick her pussy like it is the last pussy on earth (google lesbian guide to pussy licking) before fucking her. It seems that young men these days don't enjoy dining at the why.

[PRMan12]

If a single person responds, I will.

Age.

Height.

Weight.

Hair.

Annual Budget.

Marital Status on Profile.

Fudge+- a little if slightly identifying.

We all have $$$ YMMV, we have all heard stories from the ladies about horrible experiences from others and some good ones that they have had.

[BuckNaked84]

If a single person responds, I will.

Age.

Height.

Weight.

Hair.

Annual Budget.

Marital Status on Profile.

Fudge+- a little if slightly identifying.

[Dimples572]

Yes! If you're in good shape and don't look that bad, it can still be done for 300. Even though it's harder these days, it can be done. One of my main SB that I've been seeing for years is still at 300.

Well you can't really count that, she was grandfathered in at a price back when the game was different. I'm talking about women that are somewhat new but educated to the game. I'm white, late 40's decent looking / good shape. I don't have an issue picking up women in my age range, I just happen to like having sex with much younger women than my age range LOL. For the past year or so, any gal 25 or younger that's at least a 7 or an 8 has been $500 minimum for me. If you can still find an 8 for $300, you're luckier than finding a 4 leaf clover, either that or she's got serious self esteem issues. I think I posted this a few weeks ago, but back in Nov I went to NY for a week and I'd say for 50 - 60 % of the women up there that were a 7 or hotter 1 k was the Minimum. That level of GPS hasn't quite completely infiltrated the DC pool, but its creeping up that way slowly but surely.

[ShortMan22]

Are you still finding gals in the DMV (that aren't trolls from under a bridge) that'll fuck for $300? Back in the summer I got laughed at a handful of times when trying to offer that much. For me I'd say it's been $500 minimum for a good 6-8 mos now.

Yes! If you're in good shape and don't look that bad, it can still be done for 300. Even though it's harder these days, it can be done. One of my main SB that I've been seeing for years is still at 300.

[About]

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...7-49ca461caff7

https://www.instagram.com/msdaniellecollins/?hl=en

Main Profile pic comes back to a Instagram in Australia. Even recent pics like last week in Insta are Australia.

Move to text and want to meet in DC near her place for intro. Shares face covered pics in text and doesn't want to share face pics for discretion.

When they hit you up for a deposit / gas money, etc before the meetup you'll know it's not her. Her tiktok never places her in DC.

[JustLikeThe]

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...7-49ca461caff7

https://www.instagram.com/msdaniellecollins/?hl=en

Main Profile pic comes back to a Instagram in Australia. Even recent pics like last week in Insta are Australia.

Move to text and want to meet in DC near her place for intro. Shares face covered pics in text and doesn't want to share face pics for discretion.

[TomFordModel]

This one is asking $600 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...d-f1a24d03acd3

Someone posted back that it's a he.

[NovaNova]

I'll be in town for a week. What's the real range you guys are paying per meet? The SBs quoting $500-$600.

That rate is about right in my experience. I had one go to $4 and recently had one on the hook that quoted $4 but changed plans three times. I might still hit her up later as I see she is not super active on the site so maybe just nervous. If she changes plans a fourth time I'll let you all know.

[NovaNova]

This one is asking $600 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...d-f1a24d03acd3

That link is blocked for me and pretty sure that I blocked her or should I say him. A search on the forum says that girl is a dude.

[NovaNova]

This one's 23 and says she's a virgin (I 90% believe she's telling me the truth). Just testing the site to see what it's all about. If any of you mongers can crack the code best of luck to ya! LOL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...0-4f1a2e3d2b52

Possibly but man come on. A chick in this day that is a virgin at 23 and might possibly give it up to some older dude for money? I guess stranger things have happened but the amount of effort one would have to put in for that trophy would be exhausting.

[NovaNova]

Must have blocked me or deactivated.

Same thing. Either deactivated or blocked me too. Maybe SA is actually enforcing the rule about money talk with their female members now.

[GuardMan]

Link doesn't work for this one.

Must have blocked me or deactivated.