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[Lexx1]

That's your experience, it isn't everyone's. I have had 3 long-term arrangements. I haven't been "w /" any of them in years, and we don't text more than yearly. Any of them would take my text or call and have a coffee or lunch w / me, on me. Gratis. At least partly because none of them have SOs. There's shared good times and friendship. I have this b / c that is what I go for, and it's hard to find, even more so now.

There are a few girls who are truly looking for age-gap relationships, or want a dom, or whatever. Those are the ones I want to tap.

Having a dinner, lunch or drinks is one thing after many years. I have plenty of girls I can do that with as well. But are you actually FCing them? For just the cost of that. You didn't mention that. Just because they're "keeping in touch". Doesn't mean anything. Girls that are babies keep in touch. Because they're hoping you're going to FC them again for cash. That's all. If you had said you were actually FCing them too. Then I'd give you props and cred.

So it just goes back to what Murrican and me are saying. These babies are only fucking us because we are paying them. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's what this game is about.

[StevenWalker]

I need a new sugarbaby now but the quality is just scary bad. What happened to all the young girls? All these girls on seeking are over 30 lmao. I can smash those girls for free on dating apps. This is soo frustrating.

[Murrican]

I get what you are saying and agree with some of it. However, in my experience with this, the ones that pull shit typically are smart and have no problem ripping us off, and do it frequently. These girls are hardly innocent. I had one once pull a knife on me, and when I laughed about it and told her how hot she looked 'robbing' me, that alone was enough to make her want to see me again. Strange but true. I could go on with more examples. All I can say is, trying to 'correct' being taken advantage of is not an awful way to live, especially in this game.

I mean you do you. As you will of course. To each his own.

But I stand by what I said. You exact revenge on enough girls and one day one of them is going to escalate in a way you can't undo. A rape allegation. A dox. Something. You have more to lose than they do in most cases. And they know that. I hope it doesn't happen to you. But you're playing with fire.

[MrBlueSea]

To each his own and all of that. Of course. But this is just an awful way to live. And especially bad in this game. You're dealing with idiot women. Not saying all women are idiots but seeking is hardly filled with data scientists. These are just stupid young women who do stupid things because they're stupid. They are usually not malicious. Most don't know which fork to use in a restaurant. Most don't have a passport. Most have dead end jobs and mundane lives. Just let it be. If a girl does something to upset you just be happy it's you who is the customer and not the seller in this game. It's much better on this side of the transaction, we can all agree. Imagine 21 year old you having to bang 50 year old women for 600 bucks and to have to maintain the illusion it's ok for you. Yes I know all the nuances here. Girls are different. Many of us aren't trolls. And on and on. But the point remains. Just walk away.

I get what you are saying and agree with some of it. However, in my experience with this, the ones that pull shit typically are smart and have no problem ripping us off, and do it frequently. These girls are hardly innocent. I had one once pull a knife on me, and when I laughed about it and told her how hot she looked 'robbing' me, that alone was enough to make her want to see me again. Strange but true. I could go on with more examples. All I can say is, trying to 'correct' being taken advantage of is not an awful way to live, especially in this game.

[FarFarAway]

Someone recently posted about getting a sugar FB page. I knew I had a FB messenger account w / my sugar email, so I checked if I could turn that into FB. It worked fine. I put up the same profile photo I use on seeking, my sugar name, and nothing else essentially.

The weird / scary part is all of the suggested friends FB lists for me. There are a lot lot lot of girls who I have banged on seeking, or otherwise been in touch with, and there are also a lot of dudes from Africa. So the latter are obviously the catfishers I have had some sort of communication with.

This just goes to show the pervasive nature of online tracking, and why we have to be absolutely scrupulous with keeping the sugar life separate from IRL. If someone from your daily life showed up on one of those friends suggestion lists for your sugar FB, woo, that could be bad (for those of us trying / needing to stay UTR).

[FarFarAway]

I have no problem with what this is. I'm almost 50. I know that 23 year old would rather be banging a 25 year old guy. I'm not stupid. I get it. I accept it. I have no illusions that it's only my money that got this started but now she really likes me for me and me alone. It's embarrassing to even write that. I'm actually a quite good looking guy and do well outside the seeking game. But to think some girl who was in high school a few years ago would do this without money is retarded.

That's your experience, it isn't everyone's. I have had 3 long-term arrangements. I haven't been "w /" any of them in years, and we don't text more than yearly. Any of them would take my text or call and have a coffee or lunch w / me, on me. Gratis. At least partly because none of them have SOs. There's shared good times and friendship. I have this b / c that is what I go for, and it's hard to find, even more so now.

There are a few girls who are truly looking for age-gap relationships, or want a dom, or whatever. Those are the ones I want to tap.

[Chupacabra]

Not saying all women are idiots

Fine, if you won't then I will. All women are idiots. LOL Younger women are just double idiots.

I'm torn on this one. On the one hand, your advice is sound and moving on is the smart move. On the other hand, since almost every guy thinks and acts this way, these hoes get away with murder and nobody ever teaches them a lesson. So I feel like MrBlueSea is the hero we need, not the hero we deserve.

[Murrican]

Guys this goes back to remembering these girls are not our real girlfriends. You do not pay to have a real girlfriend or for love, ever. These girls are fucking us and PRETENDING to be LIKE a girlfriend. And ONLY because we are PAYING them. Always remember that. These girls do not need to have any loyalty to us. Just like we don't need to, to them. This is always no strings attached. Don't get suckered.
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I have said this so many times. Amen. It irritates me when guys do things like refer to their SB as their girlfriend. I'm always that dude that flies in and pops their bubble. It's not my style but it's warranted. I always have to remind guys, if you stop paying and she stops coming, she ain't your girlfriend. And sometimes the insanity continues. Like a guy will say I keep giving her money because I want to not because I have to. The level of self delusion sometimes is psychopathic.

I have no problem with what this is. I'm almost 50. I know that 23 year old would rather be banging a 25 year old guy. I'm not stupid. I get it. I accept it. I have no illusions that it's only my money that got this started but now she really likes me for me and me alone. It's embarrassing to even write that. I'm actually a quite good looking guy and do well outside the seeking game. But to think some girl who was in high school a few years ago would do this without money is retarded.

[Murrican]

if I can get even, I will, no matter how long it takes.

To each his own and all of that. Of course. But this is just an awful way to live. And especially bad in this game. You're dealing with idiot women. Not saying all women are idiots but seeking is hardly filled with data scientists. These are just stupid young women who do stupid things because they're stupid. They are usually not malicious. Most don't know which fork to use in a restaurant. Most don't have a passport. Most have dead end jobs and mundane lives. Just let it be. If a girl does something to upset you just be happy it's you who is the customer and not the seller in this game. It's much better on this side of the transaction, we can all agree. Imagine 21 year old you having to bang 50 year old women for 600 bucks and to have to maintain the illusion it's ok for you. Yes I know all the nuances here. Girls are different. Many of us aren't trolls. And on and on. But the point remains. Just walk away.

[MrBlueSea]

All respect man but this is plain awful advice. I repeat what I said. We live in a world where girls can make allegations and you are guilty until private. Even if the girl doesn't know where you live, it's not exactly hard to track you if you use a hotel room or an Airbnb. Many girls will lie for retribution. Tricking a girl to have sex with you is playing with fire and gasoline. OP needs to walk away. Getting tricked sucks. Tricking a girl back is just asking for an escalation you might not be able to back down from. Once the snowball gathers enough speed sometimes it's just going to keep rolling and you wish you hadn't pushed it down the hill.

You are probably right, and I have had a few instances where the situation escalated, but I was able to calm them down and eventually work my way back in. On one occasion, we became 'friends' after some tome, and I wound up leaving her at a restaurant with the check. So much time had passed she couldn't even remember what she did. I didn't get a chance to fuck her again, but I got even. Like everyone, I've been burned before, but I hate being ticked, and if I can get even, I will, no matter how long it takes.

[Lexx1]

Guys it happened for the first time in 10 years in this hobby. I paid a girl a few hours ahead and she flaked last minute and ghosted. I saw this girls 5 ish times before. We were going to meet again but then she flaked and never saw me again and won't give me the money back. I'm not sure what to do. I have her real name, number, social media, parents, friends etc (she has my number as well). I'm not really the one to retaliate but I'm really upset with how flakey women have been the last few years. I'm getting fed up and play with the idea of revenge. But I don't know.

Thought you found your Asian queen a few months ago and said you were done! LOL.

This happened to me once. Regular baby I was seeing for almost a year. Then she flaked and stopped contact after I gave her a small advance. Happened early on in my nonpro / sugaring game. Rookie mistake. So I just took it as lesson learned. And to only do PPM 100% going forward. No more advance or weekly arrangements. ONLY PPM! It keeps the girl honest and you honest.

Guys this goes back to remembering these girls are not our real girlfriends. You do not pay to have a real girlfriend or for love, ever. These girls are fucking us and PRETENDING to be LIKE a girlfriend. And ONLY because we are PAYING them. Always remember that. These girls do not need to have any loyalty to us. Just like we don't need to, to them. This is always no strings attached. Don't get suckered.

No revenge to be had here. You could get in big legal trouble if you do. Remember what we're doing giving these girls money to have sex with us. Is considered prostitution under the law, cut and dry. So were already engaging technically in prostitution. So that's illegal and you want to do something bad against this chic. That's two big NOs! Take it as a lesson learned and move on.

[Murrican]

give her a nice hard session, and of course no allowance. .

All respect man but this is plain awful advice. I repeat what I said. We live in a world where girls can make allegations and you are guilty until private. Even if the girl doesn't know where you live, it's not exactly hard to track you if you use a hotel room or an Airbnb. Many girls will lie for retribution. Tricking a girl to have sex with you is playing with fire and gasoline. OP needs to walk away. Getting tricked sucks. Tricking a girl back is just asking for an escalation you might not be able to back down from. Once the snowball gathers enough speed sometimes it's just going to keep rolling and you wish you hadn't pushed it down the hill.

[Murrican]

Just me or is Seeking unusually slow the last month or two.

Often, it doesn't load the page I click on, or says "Profile Not Available" when a refresh brings the profile up just fine.

Also, all my saved searches seem to have the location/distance missing, so it shows everyone in the world . . . othertimes it defaults to 1 mile, showing almost no matching profiles.

Same.

And I often try to login from one browser, and it doesn't work, then I try another, and it doesn't work, and then I try another and it works.

They are clearly making a lot of changes to their business model, and also technology, and some of these things are not working.

Also, these requests to do media appearances? Who the hell is going to do that?

[FarFarAway]

Just me or is Seeking unusually slow the last month or two.

Often, it doesn't load the page I click on, or says "Profile Not Available" when a refresh brings the profile up just fine.

Also, all my saved searches seem to have the location/distance missing, so it shows everyone in the world . . . othertimes it defaults to 1 mile, showing almost no matching profiles.

Same here. And it has been this way a while. I put in a help request on this topic this week. I don't recall all their practices, perhaps they don't send an acknowledging email, but I didn't get one. That might be another bug.

I wondered if it might be browser related. Currently I use Brave on a Mac, people using different browsers might have different experience. Oh, and then there is the mobile app. I don't want to burden my burner, so I don't even have that installed. I have tried Safari at times, I thought it was even worse for the problem where you click a profile in a list and get that PNA page.

[RanManCan]

Just me or is Seeking unusually slow the last month or two.

Often, it doesn't load the page I click on, or says "Profile Not Available" when a refresh brings the profile up just fine.

Also, all my saved searches seem to have the location/distance missing, so it shows everyone in the world . . . othertimes it defaults to 1 mile, showing almost no matching profiles.