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  1. #1170

    Guess I'm a lowly monger

    Quote Originally Posted by Old School 62
    For one to establish an elitist title per pay-for-play makes no sense.
    Yeah I don't get the distinction between monger and hobbyist nor do I care for the tone of elitism that seems implied in the original post. I enjoy Gareth's solid pickup reports but this commentary strikes me as silly and overheated. "...most shocking pictures of any kind I've ever seen anywhere." Really? You must be living a sheltered life without access to media.

    There's no status involved in what we do. Anyone suggesting that they are superior to somebody else because "my drug addicted streetwalkers are better than your drug addicted streetwalkers" is on shaky ground.

  2. #1169
    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth
    … my taste is very, very different from whatever you call this - is there a word for it? I think this illustrates the difference between mongering and hobbying (which is what I do).
    Okay! I’ll bite. I’ll take the bait. What’s the differences?

    What is mongering? What is hobbying? Which are you, a monger or a hobbyist? Which is the better one, hobbying or mongering? Can a Monger be a Hobbyist? Can a Hobbyist be a Monger? Could one be a Monger on one occasion and a Hobbyist on the next? Is it possible to do both at the same time? What about licenses, permits and fees? Do you have to belong to an official Hobbyist organization or the United Federation of Mongers.? Can you still monger if your dues are not up to date? And, what about hunters? I’ve read where some guys refer to themselves as hunters. I have also heard of guys calling themselves; Ho chasers. Where in the pecking order do Ho chasers, and Hunters fall? And, of course, the girls call us johns, regulars or assholes. Which are you, a john or a regular? Does it matter? Does anyone really care?

    It seems like your saying that what you do is somehow better than what I do. Are you trying to tell me that because your taste is so very, very different from mine, it makes you a better something or other? Just because you say it’s so doesn’t make it so. Illustrate it for me. Show me what makes you and your taste so much better than me and my taste.

    It is not a matter of taste. It has nothing to do with whether one is a monger, hobbyist or asshole. It’s about truth. The truth is, if you have ever actually perused women on a regular bases and been half way successful at it, you will have at some point been with a woman who looked good in the dark and not so good in the light. Whether you search for girls in bars or night clubs, work or school, or on you local streets, sooner or later everyone picks up a dud. That’s the truth. Of cause, if you are not actually hitting the streets regularly, you might not know that.

    I don’t mind guys not liking the girls I picture. I do mind people qualifying my taste. It’s all subjective; anyway.

    Happy mongering or hobbying (whatever).

    CookyJar

  3. #1168

    Gareth - your comment per CookyJar..

    Gareth,

    Subjectively, "Mongering" and "Hobbying" are one in the same; we enjoy paying for sex. For one to establish an elitist title per pay-for-play makes no sense.

    We all enjoy the "mission" of cruising the stroll, searching for that fresh provider or one we have become a "regular".

    The planning, mapping, researching and anticipation of a road trip to check out another city's stroll, ETC.

    I believe the above is the core paradigm of all who seek out providers. Any ancillary variants are simply personal choice.

    The fact that one monger/hobbyist likes a BJ and another monger/hobbyist does not is a moot issue.

    But for one M/H to publically denounce another M/H for NOT liking BJ's is just malicious and not in sync with why we all share in the USA sex guide forum.

    We all share reconnaissance, provider reviews, etc. with each other, but I also view this entire forum as a source of camaraderie.

    Sans, smearing CookyJar's preferences per providers is just pointless.

    No offense Gareth; this is not personal.

    Old School




    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth
    Those are among the most shocking pictures of any kind I've ever seen anywhere. Blown away. Clearly, my taste is very, very different from whatever you call this - is there a word for it? I think this illustrates the difference between mongering and hobbying (which is what I do).

  4. #1167
    Those are among the most shocking pictures of any kind I've ever seen anywhere. Blown away. Clearly, my taste is very, very different from whatever you call this - is there a word for it? I think this illustrates the difference between mongering and hobbying (which is what I do).

    Quote Originally Posted by CookyJar
    The big reason I hesitated to post these pictures and this review was that I did not want Mary’s business hurt. She is out there and she does had clients. I don’t want anything I do to hurt that. If you have been with Mary, you know what I’m talking about. She is a good provider. Also, I don’t want some asshole approaching her and bad mouthing her or her pictures. Like I said in my original review, the lady gives one hell of a great blow job.

    Here is another thing to think about. Usually when we see a youth pretty girl out there working the streets and she has a nice attitude and personality, we think; what a waste. When we see such a girl we wish we could help save her. In this case, Mary is an MILF who has no business being out there. Mary should be off the streets and sitting behind a desk somewhere.

    CookyJar

  5. #1166

    Bella

    Has anyone ever been with Bella? She was out today and looked really great....very clean and decent personality. I dont think Ive seen any posts about her and she is a great catch. The usual prices....with much better service (s).

    She also posts on CL..

  6. #1165

    Tampa

    Over in Hillsborough County which is where Tampa is, they are pretty dam strict. We have a few people on the boards that really push the envelope. Even the lap dance laws are pretty strict. There are extras you just have to get well known or seen to get in good with the ladies.

    Happy Hunting..

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan
    10 counts of federal obscenity charges in Tampa, Florida, guilty on all charges in June 2008. He has been sentenced to 6 years and 4 months in prison. The moral police needs to fucking die!
    Last edited by Admin; 10-15-08 at 12:53.

  7. #1164

    Suzy's Smile

    I received the following PM inquiry and figured others might be curious.

    Quote Originally Posted by XXX
    CJ, my curiousity is itching at me. How messed up are Suzy's teeth? I chose to ask in pm as I don't want to come off as trying to slam her or you, as that is not my intention. I couldn't help but notice that in all the pics you've posted of her, there is never one that shows her teeth, and I believe it's been established she's a pipe jockey….

    XXX
    Suzy does have all of her teeth, and they are not that bad. I don’t now why she doesn’t like to give an open mouth grin. I have seen/made her laugh a few times but she rarely shows her teeth.

    Here are a few pictures that I decided not to post because that look off, maybe that’s why she doesn’t like to smile with her teeth showing.

    She can be fun and she is not as serious as she looks.

    Also, it might as well be known, I don’t think she is currently available. The word on the street is that she owes money and may not be showing her face for awhile. She has been in this position before. Someone else said she was picked up by LE for warrants and was in possession of drugs. Who knows? Either way, I don’t expect to be seeing her for awhile.

    CookyJar
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Suzy smiling.jpg‎   Suzy Smiling 1.jpg‎   Suzy smiling 2.jpg‎   Suzy smiling 4.jpg‎  
    Last edited by Admin; 10-15-08 at 12:53.

  8. #1163

    Suzy

    Cooky, I had a feeling you would have Suzy over for my fun and games. Shes a real cutie and that innocent girl face is just a nice little plus.
    Thanks for the photos and enjoy her while you can.

    Happy Hunting..

  9. #1162
    Senior Member


    Posts: 3022
    Quote Originally Posted by Baggerr
    why is he in jail?
    10 counts of federal obscenity charges in Tampa, Florida, guilty on all charges in June 2008. He has been sentenced to 6 years and 4 months in prison. The moral police needs to fucking die!
    Last edited by Admin; 10-15-08 at 12:54.

  10. #1161
    Quote Originally Posted by Benchseats Rock
    It's a bit more complicated than that, and with Max Hardcore in jail for the next 4 years, there is alot more to worry about than 2257 compliance.

    Bench
    Why is he in jail?
    Last edited by Admin; 10-15-08 at 12:54.

  11. #1160
    Quote Originally Posted by Old School 62

    What makes Sex for Money not Prostitution?

    Easy answer - Porn. Advertise in CL for "Porn Actresses". Set up your Video Camera, Bang away, Pay her after the "shoot" is finished.
    It's a bit more complicated than that, and with Max Hardcore in jail for the next 4 years, there is alot more to worry about than 2257 compliance.

    Bench
    Last edited by Admin; 10-15-08 at 12:54.

  12. #1159

    Pornography...

    [QUOTE=Orlando J]Today I saw your nice pictures. I dropped by to read your entertaining reports, say hi to my online friends CookyJar and the rest of Phily awesome members. I enjoy your posts. I read few posts back. Never mind the attacks.
    You had the joy, fun and in top of that you shared it with us so thanks.

    What makes Sex for Money not Prostitution?

    We have now listed several examples of sex for money that is not prostitution. What is the common element that makes sex for money not prostitution? If it's in the context of therapy then sex for money isn't prostitution. If it's in the context of getting a job then sex for money isn't prostitution. If it's in the context of friendship then sex for money isn't prostitution. If they are living together then sex for money isn't prostitution.

    It seems that the common element that makes sex for money not prostitution is that if it's not only sex for money. In all these cases there is a third element involved. It's always sex for money and something else. The one example of prostitution was when there was only sex for money and nothing else. Thus, although the statute defines prostitution as sexual contact in exchange for something of value, it seems like in practice that the real rule is an exchange of something of value for only sex and nothing else. Because if you are buying sex and friendship or sex in the context of a relationship or therapy, or making a movie, then the third element makes the event not an act of prostitution, even with the element of sex for money.

    Thus the language of the statute is incomplete because it doesn't say what it really means. Prostitution is more accurately defined as:

    "Prostitution", a person commits prostitution if he, in return for something of value to be received by the person or by a third person, engages or offers or agrees to engage in only sexual conduct with another person.

    Actually I told some people working in the adult industry using these thoughts but now that we have Florida case of sex film maker Clinton Raymond McCowen, aka "Ray Guhn". I take back what I said in the past regarding porn.


    Depending on your local laws you could be doing them a favor.
    Attempts were made in the 1970s to outlaw pornography in the United States by prosecuting porn stars for prostitution. The courts in California were where the case was initially made, and stopped short of advancing the case to the United States Supreme Court for a final decision. It was this decision and acceptance to let stand whereby the California Court made a legal distinction in the case of People v. Freeman between someone who took part in a sexual relationship for money (prostitution) versus someone who takes on the act of merely portraying role where a sexual relationship was engaged in on-screen act as part of their acting performance. It is this specific legal distinction between pornography and prostitution in California law that has allowed California to become the porn center of the United States.


    _______________________________________________________________


    What makes Sex for Money not Prostitution?

    Easy answer - Porn. Advertise in CL for "Porn Actresses". Set up your Video Camera, Bang away, Pay her after the "shoot" is finished.

  13. #1158

    CookyJar - Per Debra...

    CookyJar,

    As far as I'm concerned Debra would be a definite date in my book. As your aware my first and only "Phili mission" was a date with Nicole.

    To reiterate, nice kid but my date with her was a nightmare.

    OldSchool62

    At times, "OldFool"...

    Oh, BTW. Hit a strip club in Bridgeport, CT. Two weeks ago; "Pleasant Moments" (Which actually got raided on Friday - glad I was not there! - heres' the police raid article for those curious mongers)...

    http://www.connpost.com/localnews/ci_10689527


    Anyway, have always had crappy service in the Bport strip clubs. So, decided to go to Pleasant Moments two weeks ago on a Sunday. Met a beutiful Latina; "Lady".

    35 years old, Brazilian, damn near 10 body. Back room for 60, no rush. Overall experience: A++

    Doesn't mean I will keep experimenting with the The strip club scene; just got lucky. Hope "Lady" was not one of the girls who got caught up in the raid.

  14. #1157

    Suzy

    Quote Originally Posted by CookyJar
    Can a monger get to much of a good thing? That’s the question. Suzy, Miss CookyJar 2007, asked me if I was getting tired of being with her. Of cause I didn’t hesitate to say, “No.” But, it got me thinking, am I getting tired of Suzy. How could I be getting tired of such a girl with such a nice body? Suzy has a very nice personality. She performs well. And she has one of the best bodies I have ever come across on the streets. So what’s the problem?

    I’ve become a slave to my need for variety. Like most ho mongers, I crave variety. I am always looking for something different. And unfortunately for me, I have been finding lots of it. On most of my trips into the depths of my depravity, I have come up with a little something special to feed my lust for difference. In most cases, the girl involved was not gifted with a body the likes of Suzy. Suzy is a rare find indeed. But, often the new girl was able to pluck something deep within my soul and I was able to reach that state of ecstasy I seek. So it is sad to say, unless my mood changes, I am not likely to be seeking the company of Suzy for a while. It’s a case of, to much of a good thing – I guess.

    (If you want more information on Suzy, do a search of this thread. She has been reviewed and reported on numerous times by me.)

    CookyJar
    She's definitely a looker. Very cute! The best I've seen among them. Love to have her fly down to memphis but then she probably won't go back to philly. Ha. Ha. Spoiled by a suga' daddy down south.

    Keep up the good work, cj!

    Be safe

    AC

  15. #1156

    CookyJar never mind the haters

    Today I saw your nice pictures. I dropped by to read your entertaining reports, say hi to my online friends CookyJar and the rest of Phily awesome members. I enjoy your posts. I read few posts back. Never mind the attacks.
    You had the joy, fun and in top of that you shared it with us so thanks.

    What makes Sex for Money not Prostitution?

    We have now listed several examples of sex for money that is not prostitution. What is the common element that makes sex for money not prostitution? If it's in the context of therapy then sex for money isn't prostitution. If it's in the context of getting a job then sex for money isn't prostitution. If it's in the context of friendship then sex for money isn't prostitution. If they are living together then sex for money isn't prostitution.

    It seems that the common element that makes sex for money not prostitution is that if it's not only sex for money. In all these cases there is a third element involved. It's always sex for money and something else. The one example of prostitution was when there was only sex for money and nothing else. Thus, although the statute defines prostitution as sexual contact in exchange for something of value, it seems like in practice that the real rule is an exchange of something of value for only sex and nothing else. Because if you are buying sex and friendship or sex in the context of a relationship or therapy, or making a movie, then the third element makes the event not an act of prostitution, even with the element of sex for money.

    Thus the language of the statute is incomplete because it doesn't say what it really means. Prostitution is more accurately defined as:

    "Prostitution", a person commits prostitution if he, in return for something of value to be received by the person or by a third person, engages or offers or agrees to engage in only sexual conduct with another person.

    Actually I told some people working in the adult industry using these thoughts but now that we have Florida case of sex film maker Clinton Raymond McCowen, aka "Ray Guhn". I take back what I said in the past regarding porn.


    Depending on your local laws you could be doing them a favor.
    Attempts were made in the 1970s to outlaw pornography in the United States by prosecuting porn stars for prostitution. The courts in California were where the case was initially made, and stopped short of advancing the case to the United States Supreme Court for a final decision. It was this decision and acceptance to let stand whereby the California Court made a legal distinction in the case of People v. Freeman between someone who took part in a sexual relationship for money (prostitution) versus someone who takes on the act of merely portraying role where a sexual relationship was engaged in on-screen act as part of their acting performance. It is this specific legal distinction between pornography and prostitution in California law that has allowed California to become the porn center of the United States.


    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...d.php?p=705990
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...d.php?p=488499
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...d.php?p=706385

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