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  1. #18211
    Quote Originally Posted by Degasa9976  [View Original Post]
    This year is my first with this hobby (and likely the most fun, I need to cut back a bit). It's been fun but I've gone too many times so the girls know me and what I'm looking for. I miss the thrill of seeing a new girl and hoping I can catch her attention without spending too much on stage tips. I've heard that Detroit clubs attract dancers from across the country in the winter and they're hopping busy. I know that's somewhat true, my regular girl is from Texas originally and said she moved here because it's shitty there.

    It seems counter intuitive to me since the weather is so crappy. What say you, more experienced connoisseurs?
    D99,

    This has not been my experience. Right around now the clubs start to empty out. Many Michigan snow birds leave for the winter to warmer climates, and the mongers with the coin to relocate, cause the dancers to follow them.

    Certainly not all the girls leave as many have family reasons for staying in Michigan. One of my most favorite girls was talking about how much her income dropped last January and February. She couldn't wait for the warmer weather.

    As the snowbirds return in April and May the girls follow them back up here. Also Florida and Texas and Arizona are all miserable places to be weather-wise in the summer. It is the opposite of being in Michigan in the winter.

    I have found the best times to Monger are in May and June through September. Each May / June there is a new round of high school and college graduates that look for ways to make money. Even girls who go to college need to work during the summer and they try to earn their tuition. And even girls who are flipping burgers or folding sweaters tend to keep those jobs and change in the springtime. Something about warmer weather makes them try stripping. All these girl added to the dancers moving back to chase the rich snowbirds makes for a robust selection during the summer.

    MM.

  2. #18210
    Quote Originally Posted by DeanDuber  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate all of your guys advice. Before I received a certain PM I went to the most local club to me, chapeau vert lounge. Apparently this was mistake number one. But let me say, I am creeping up on 30, fairly clean shaven and apparently look like a cop? I come in pay the cover, head to the bar and order a drink. A lady comes over and I am not interested. Friendly but I end up telling her thank you but no thank you. Once I get my drink and some singles if need be. I go off the side booth to sit and watch the girl on stage / scope talent. This chicken comes over, bigger girl. And she goes "you the po-lice?" And starts to feel me for a wire lmao. I smirk at her let her touch me all over and go "yeah I'm the po-lice". Then she laughs and settles a bit. Now I'm thinking, bigger girls got a reputation for one thing that I know I'm interested in. So I directly ask for a BJ. She goes we don't do that here anymore. I go okay damn. And she offers a dance starting at a 100 $ to which I kindly decline. She then goes "okay, I'll let everyone know you're the po-lice". I just said K, finished my drink and left considering one of the worst girls there said there was no extras. Annoying experience.
    DD,

    I am crying with you.

    I usually go to BTs or Sliver Criket. Try one of those and you should have a different experience. I have never been to chapeau vert lounge, and now I now why.

    MM.

  3. #18209
    Quote Originally Posted by BadBird  [View Original Post]
    Is Harmony at Bogarts still working the night shift?
    Yes, but sometimes she is at Henry's.

  4. #18208

    Harmony

    Is Harmony at Bogarts still working the night shift?

  5. #18207
    Quote Originally Posted by Degasa9976  [View Original Post]
    This year is my first with this hobby (and likely the most fun, I need to cut back a bit). It's been fun but I've gone too many times so the girls know me and what I'm looking for. I miss the thrill of seeing a new girl and hoping I can catch her attention without spending too much on stage tips. I've heard that Detroit clubs attract dancers from across the country in the winter and they're hopping busy. I know that's somewhat true, my regular girl is from Texas originally and said she moved here because it's shitty there.

    It seems counter intuitive to me since the weather is so crappy. What say you, more experienced connoisseurs?
    There are 6 different "go to" clubs so just start going to the one or two you visit the least, there will will be new girls and it will be exciting!

  6. #18206

    Winter time at the clubs?

    This year is my first with this hobby (and likely the most fun, I need to cut back a bit). It's been fun but I've gone too many times so the girls know me and what I'm looking for. I miss the thrill of seeing a new girl and hoping I can catch her attention without spending too much on stage tips. I've heard that Detroit clubs attract dancers from across the country in the winter and they're hopping busy. I know that's somewhat true, my regular girl is from Texas originally and said she moved here because it's shitty there.

    It seems counter intuitive to me since the weather is so crappy. What say you, more experienced connoisseurs?

  7. #18205

    Alright I went for it

    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    DD,

    WK told you everything you need to know. I will add a little nuance.

    If a session starts to go bad just end it and find a different girl. Don't throw additional money at her to fix it. Don't every renegotiate in the VIP, you negotiated in the main room and that is best for both of you.

    There is a pecking order in the clubs and the girls will know you are fresh meat and they haven't seen you before. You will get approached by the most aggressive girls trying to drain your wallet before others. If any girl will do, or you view all girls as similar this might be great for you. I am very selective and usually there are only 1 to 4 girls in the club I would pay for a dance. I am quite capable of going to any Applebees or Chiles on the weekend and pulling girl for free. The problem is she will be the female version of me mid 40's - 50's, decent size belly and could stand to loose a good number of pounds. When I go to the club I am looking for young 20's girl who I have no chance with outside the club.

    Certainly beauty is in the eye of each guy. There is some guy who thinks every girl is hot. But there is general consensus the some girls are generally more attractive to a wide group of guys. If you want one of these girls they won't usually approach you. They have a steady group of regulars that they spend time with. In these cases approach them at the stage, tip them, and talk to them. Say something like when you are free please come and sit with me.

    Dancers will not always ask to sit with you. Many of the most desperate dancers will jump into the seat next you. They may even grab your dick, and they will refuse to leave. They are trying to run out the clock of how much time you are willing to spend in the club. Typically if a girl is sitting with you, no other girls will approach you. My advise is don't let a girl sit unless she is physically attractive to you, and you would consider taking her to the VIP.

    If you just want to sit and talk with a girl for female company that is fine, but understand sooner or later she will want to get you in the VIP.

    If you want a girl to satisfy your kink, you will definitely find one. However it is a mistake to assume all girls offer extras. There are some girls who will offer to every guy. There are some girls who only offer to a few guys they like, or are respectful to them. And yes, there are actually clean girls in the clubs. I am sure this will get railed on in this forum, but I often go with just clean girls and enjoy them for what they have to offer. Most clean girls stop dancing after a few weeks, and some change to doing extras.

    I like the talking at the table. I have done it enough times that I can usually tell if a session will be good or not just based on the conversation and chemistry. If you talk to a girl and then go back and have a bad session with her, remember how the conversation went at the table this is an indication of how other girls sessions will be in the future. I have often skipped girls because of bad conversation only to read later on this forum that the girl was bad in the VIP. I knew it and avoided her.

    Certainly these girl are asked for all sort of things that would make a sailor blush. I agree with being direct. But if I am talking to a new girl, she is often offended by what we want to do with them. I usually ask what does she want to do with me? Or what did she do in her most enjoyable VIP? Once you establish chemistry with a girl the second or third time is often much better.

    Never Never Never pay in advance. If you do and it works out you got lucky.

    If you go to the VIP and there is drama like, I don't like girls wearing high heels. So I ask the girl to take off her shoes. She says no. I walk out, this is not how I want my VIP to start, and starting with conflict usually means a VIP filled with conflict. You do not have to pay her for 1 song if you walk in the first minute.

    Have a great time.

    Don't feel bad if you get cheated. Some of these girls are very persuasive and every guy on this board has been cheated a couple times. That is how we learn, even if many of the girls won't try to cheat you. Many will cheat you only if you let them.

    MM.
    I appreciate all of your guys advice. Before I received a certain PM I went to the most local club to me, chapeau vert lounge. Apparently this was mistake number one. But let me say, I am creeping up on 30, fairly clean shaven and apparently look like a cop? I come in pay the cover, head to the bar and order a drink. A lady comes over and I am not interested. Friendly but I end up telling her thank you but no thank you. Once I get my drink and some singles if need be. I go off the side booth to sit and watch the girl on stage / scope talent. This chicken comes over, bigger girl. And she goes "you the po-lice?" And starts to feel me for a wire lmao. I smirk at her let her touch me all over and go "yeah I'm the po-lice". Then she laughs and settles a bit. Now I'm thinking, bigger girls got a reputation for one thing that I know I'm interested in. So I directly ask for a BJ. She goes we don't do that here anymore. I go okay damn. And she offers a dance starting at a 100 $ to which I kindly decline. She then goes "okay, I'll let everyone know you're the po-lice". I just said K, finished my drink and left considering one of the worst girls there said there was no extras. Annoying experience.

  8. #18204

    Desire

    Anyone catch or seen desire at the Criket over the last couple weeks? Made 3 or 4 visits last 2 weeks and haven't been able to catch her on shift.

  9. #18203
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyGuy12  [View Original Post]
    Do you guys bring covers with you or do they supply them like at an AMP?
    I'm always prepared with my own. Most of the time the girl will provide the cover that she likes. But majority of the time they are thick and don't fit great. I have my own supply that fits properly and is thin as you can buy off Amazon (. 004). Can't seem to find the. 003 on Amazon but think eBay has. 003 and under. Also I usually get the un lubricated as a courtesy LOL.

  10. #18202

    User's guide to strip clubs

    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    DD,

    WK told you everything you need to know. I will add a little nuance.

    If a session starts to go bad just end it and find a different girl. Don't throw additional money at her to fix it. Don't every renegotiate in the VIP, you negotiated in the main room and that is best for both of you.

    There is a pecking order in the clubs and the girls will know you are fresh meat and they haven't seen you before. You will get approached by the most aggressive girls trying to drain your wallet before others. If any girl will do, or you view all girls as similar this might be great for you. I am very selective and usually there are only 1 to 4 girls in the club I would pay for a dance. I am quite capable of going to any Applebees or Chiles on the weekend and pulling girl for free. The problem is she will be the female version of me mid 40's - 50's, decent size belly and could stand to loose a good number of pounds. When I go to the club I am looking for young 20's girl who I have no chance with outside the club.

    Certainly beauty is in the eye of each guy. There is some guy who thinks every girl is hot. But there is general consensus the some girls are generally more attractive to a wide group of guys. If you want one of these girls they won't usually approach you. They have a steady group of regulars that they spend time with. In these cases approach them at the stage, tip them, and talk to them. Say something like when you are free please come and sit with me.

    Dancers will not always ask to sit with you. Many of the most desperate dancers will jump into the seat next you. They may even grab your dick, and they will refuse to leave. They are trying to run out the clock of how much time you are willing to spend in the club. Typically if a girl is sitting with you, no other girls will approach you. My advise is don't let a girl sit unless she is physically attractive to you, and you would consider taking her to the VIP.

    If you just want to sit and talk with a girl for female company that is fine, but understand sooner or later she will want to get you in the VIP..
    Wise advice from MM, as usual. On rare occasion, you will follow all of the above guidelines and still end up with a dancer who tries to overcharge you or who under performs. Be polite but firm. Offer to pay her for dances that she delivered but not beyond the value of the dances. If she insists on involving the manager (or bouncer), be polite and explain what happened and propose a reasonable solution. You might even ask if any other customers have every complained about this particular dancer. If you cannot arrive at a reasonable resolution, I recommend that you avoid a physical confrontation. However, I do recommend that you write a review that clearly identifies the dancer by her club name so that other customers can avoid that dancer.

    Wish we could pin this article to make it easier for others to locate it. I gave it a title that might make it easier to search.

  11. #18201
    Quote Originally Posted by DeanDuber  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate the answers. I'd like to tell those that I indeed searched first time and info was limited, sooo. To clarify, I was hoping someone would break down the game. For instance, I could tell someone the massage game. When you say negotiate at the table I'm assuming you mean before you go in private. But I've never gone to a club at all. Open to suggestions on which club to try first, also what time is best! Thanks all.
    Quote Originally Posted by SamPerkins420  [View Original Post]
    If you go by yourself to a strip club in this area, especially during the day, you might as well wear a sign saying "I'm here to get off. " Everyone there, not just strippers but also bouncers, waitresses, bartenders & DJs, know why you're there.

    I'd start with Silver Criket on MI Ave during the afternoon. No cover or parking fee during day, it is non-smoking, and all the women play ball. If you don't find anyone there you're interested in, BT's is a few miles east on MI Ave, but does have a cover charge and mandatory valet (although you can park a block over, walk and say you took an Uber). Criket & BT's are both mid range clubs with some really hot women, but Criket lately has had a lot of disgusting fatties. Both have a LARGE number of Cubans that don't speak English but all fuck.

    About 4 miles in the other direction you have Bogart's & Flight Club on MI Ave, and Henry VIII on Middlebelt just north of MI Ave. FC is the highest end / most expensive club in the area. Gorgeous women, feels like a Vegas club inside, you will be charged at least $300 to cum in addition to valet, cover and high drink prices.

    Bogie's & H8 are the opposite. They're the lowest end clubs. $5 cover, drink specials throughout the day & night, and cheapest cum. Quality of strippers is pretty low although there are plenty of diamonds in the rough at those places. Both allow smoking and you'll stink like an ashtray after.

    Landing Strip & Playhouse are mid range like Criket & BTs and very close to DTW airport.
    Just to add that if you feel inclined to check out Flight Club (high end) While you can't avoid the Valet charge there. If you're checking them out on day shift You can get into Flight club without paying a cover charge if you go there before 6/7 pm when shift change happens. I always will try to get there before 6 to make sure I beat the cover charge when the urge to visit there hits.

  12. #18200
    Quote Originally Posted by DeanDuber  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate the answers. I'd like to tell those that I indeed searched first time and info was limited, sooo. To clarify, I was hoping someone would break down the game. For instance, I could tell someone the massage game. When you say negotiate at the table I'm assuming you mean before you go in private. But I've never gone to a club at all. Open to suggestions on which club to try first, also what time is best! Thanks all.
    DD,

    WK told you everything you need to know. I will add a little nuance.

    If a session starts to go bad just end it and find a different girl. Don't throw additional money at her to fix it. Don't every renegotiate in the VIP, you negotiated in the main room and that is best for both of you.

    There is a pecking order in the clubs and the girls will know you are fresh meat and they haven't seen you before. You will get approached by the most aggressive girls trying to drain your wallet before others. If any girl will do, or you view all girls as similar this might be great for you. I am very selective and usually there are only 1 to 4 girls in the club I would pay for a dance. I am quite capable of going to any Applebees or Chiles on the weekend and pulling girl for free. The problem is she will be the female version of me mid 40's - 50's, decent size belly and could stand to loose a good number of pounds. When I go to the club I am looking for young 20's girl who I have no chance with outside the club.

    Certainly beauty is in the eye of each guy. There is some guy who thinks every girl is hot. But there is general consensus the some girls are generally more attractive to a wide group of guys. If you want one of these girls they won't usually approach you. They have a steady group of regulars that they spend time with. In these cases approach them at the stage, tip them, and talk to them. Say something like when you are free please come and sit with me.

    Dancers will not always ask to sit with you. Many of the most desperate dancers will jump into the seat next you. They may even grab your dick, and they will refuse to leave. They are trying to run out the clock of how much time you are willing to spend in the club. Typically if a girl is sitting with you, no other girls will approach you. My advise is don't let a girl sit unless she is physically attractive to you, and you would consider taking her to the VIP.

    If you just want to sit and talk with a girl for female company that is fine, but understand sooner or later she will want to get you in the VIP.

    If you want a girl to satisfy your kink, you will definitely find one. However it is a mistake to assume all girls offer extras. There are some girls who will offer to every guy. There are some girls who only offer to a few guys they like, or are respectful to them. And yes, there are actually clean girls in the clubs. I am sure this will get railed on in this forum, but I often go with just clean girls and enjoy them for what they have to offer. Most clean girls stop dancing after a few weeks, and some change to doing extras.

    I like the talking at the table. I have done it enough times that I can usually tell if a session will be good or not just based on the conversation and chemistry. If you talk to a girl and then go back and have a bad session with her, remember how the conversation went at the table this is an indication of how other girls sessions will be in the future. I have often skipped girls because of bad conversation only to read later on this forum that the girl was bad in the VIP. I knew it and avoided her.

    Certainly these girl are asked for all sort of things that would make a sailor blush. I agree with being direct. But if I am talking to a new girl, she is often offended by what we want to do with them. I usually ask what does she want to do with me? Or what did she do in her most enjoyable VIP? Once you establish chemistry with a girl the second or third time is often much better.

    Never Never Never pay in advance. If you do and it works out you got lucky.

    If you go to the VIP and there is drama like, I don't like girls wearing high heels. So I ask the girl to take off her shoes. She says no. I walk out, this is not how I want my VIP to start, and starting with conflict usually means a VIP filled with conflict. You do not have to pay her for 1 song if you walk in the first minute.

    Have a great time.

    Don't feel bad if you get cheated. Some of these girls are very persuasive and every guy on this board has been cheated a couple times. That is how we learn, even if many of the girls won't try to cheat you. Many will cheat you only if you let them.

    MM.

  13. #18199

    H8 Visit

    Took a peek into H8 yesterday afternoon on my way back to Chicago-about 3:00.

    5 girls-3 AA, 1 White, 1 mixed. Only one-Lani-worth noticing. She's a tall AA spinner with legs until tomorrow. Good conversationalist at the bar. Provided an unhurried quality BBBJ in the back-took direction well, played with the boys. Standard donation. All in all a pretty good time, which I consider lucky for H8.

    May you find what you are looking for-B.

  14. #18198
    Quote Originally Posted by PastMyPrime  [View Original Post]
    It has been awhile since I have taken a lady to a strip club. The last time I went with a lady she was a lot less worried about things. So, I am looking for something more specific.

    1) While I am sure most do, looking for a club with a large variety of ladies so that my girl can have her pick.

    2) Looking for a club where both of us can go to the room for a dance. I don't want something open where my lady will walk by a guy getting a blowjob, but rather a room or curtained off area. (Note, I used to love the old H8's with one dark room and several people getting laid / BJs.

    3) Ideally not full of fatties or 20-year-old crack addicts with no meat on their bones.

    4) Most importantly a place where I can watch the stripper grope touch and suck my lady. She plans to wear a very short dress, no bra, no panties with real easy access to her tits.

    Like I said, the last couple of times I did this was pre-covid and with another lady. Subi's was ok, but won't work here. The Palace has changed a lot. I need a real room or couch, not a folding chair like H8 N or Bogarts.

    Suggestions? Feel free to PM.
    Went to Fight Club with my wife looking for same thing. Had a nice bigger space downstairs. Prices were high, but I paid, we were there. The dancer was not a full on participant and the experience was less than we were hoping for.

  15. #18197

    Re: Ro for a couple

    Quote Originally Posted by PastMyPrime  [View Original Post]
    It has been awhile since I have taken a lady to a strip club. The last time I went with a lady she was a lot less worried about things. So, I am looking for something more specific.

    1) While I am sure most do, looking for a club with a large variety of ladies so that my girl can have her pick.

    2) Looking for a club where both of us can go to the room for a dance. I don't want something open where my lady will walk by a guy getting a blowjob, but rather a room or curtained off area. (Note, I used to love the old H8's with one dark room and several people getting laid / BJs.

    3) Ideally not full of fatties or 20-year-old crack addicts with no meat on their bones.

    4) Most importantly a place where I can watch the stripper grope touch and suck my lady. She plans to wear a very short dress, no bra, no panties with real easy access to her tits.

    Like I said, the last couple of times I did this was pre-covid and with another lady. Subi's was ok, but won't work here. The Palace has changed a lot. I need a real room or couch, not a folding chair like H8 N or Bogarts.

    Suggestions? Feel free to PM.
    Criket has one cubicle larger than the rest with a padded bench long enough to fit me (I'm six foot one). BT's rooms have a comfortable padded chsir and a mirror, but not a lot of additional space. Landing Strip has benches in the rooms, although only saw one on an impromptu tour.

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