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  1. #18189

    Re: the club game

    Quote Originally Posted by DeanDuber  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate the answers. I'd like to tell those that I indeed searched first time and info was limited, sooo. To clarify, I was hoping someone would break down the game. For instance, I could tell someone the massage game. When you say negotiate at the table I'm assuming you mean before you go in private. But I've never gone to a club at all. Open to suggestions on which club to try first, also what time is best! Thanks all.
    Yes, "negotiate at the table" means exactly that — negotiate beforehand with the dancer the price of the services you expect from her in the VIP so that you are not surprised by an upsell later. And stick to it once you are in the VIP, or walk out.

    I'm fairly certain the following has been covered more extensively in this thread; here is a brief summary:

    Upon your arrival at the club of your choice, you may pay for valet service at clubs which require it; all clubs have a cover, but some may waive it early in the day. Once you are seated at the bar, table, or booth, you will be expected to buy a drink at minimum; booths carry a charge after a certain hour.

    Girls dance in rotation on stages. You may approach a girl while she is dancing and tip her a dollar or more to indicate your interest, ask her to see you at your table when she is finished.

    When not dancing, entertaining patrons in the VIP, passing time with other clients or dancers at another table, or lingering in the dressing room, the dancers circulate the room, looking for potential customers. When a dancer approaches you at your seat, she will ask you if want company, or if you mind if she sits at your table. If you like her, you may invite her to join you. If you don't like her, or you have your eye on someone else, you just say "no thank you, I just got here" or "I'm waiting for someone else", and she will leave.

    If a girl you like isn't heading your way, you can ask your waitress to send her over.

    When you are talking with the peeler of your choice, she may make some standard small talk: where are you from, have you been to this club before, what do you do for a living. You may do the same: where are you from, how long have you been dancing, how long have you worked at this club, which other clubs have you worked before, etc.

    Once you have developed some rapport with this girl, you may ask to take her to the VIP; more than likely, she will beat you to it and ask you first. She may ask "you want a dance in the back?" Or "you want to have some fun!" And some are far more direct and ask if you want to f—k.

    She will try to gauge what kind of customer you are; how much you might pay and how far you expect her to go. Some customers want only a "clean" dance, some just want some female company to sit at the table and talk, and some want "extras", which is a euphemism for everything that is not a clean dance, from feeling up to full service.

    Tell her exactly what you want. Spell it out so there is no misunderstanding. She's heard it all before, and she's heard much worse, so don't be shy, and don't use code or slang. And quote her a price you are willing to pay. She will likely have a higher figure in mind. If you don't agree on price, then do not go to the VIP, and tell her you are happy to remain at your table with your drink.

    She may accept your terms and lead you to the VIP, where you will pay another fee for the use of the tiny room, and receive a wrist wristband from the bouncer to show proof you paid. Once in the VIP room, you may commence your negotiated activity. If she demands payment first, you may show her you actually have the cash, but do not let it leave your possession, else she will have the opportunity to change the terms of your agreement. If she still refuses, pay her for a single dance and walk out. However, despite the number of posts here on this, most girls don't try to cheat the customers. It's bad for business.

    Once you do partake of the negotiated activity, enjoy yourself and her. After you are finished, she may have wipes to clean you off, but you also might want to be prepared if she doesn't. Have your payment ready to hand over to her with a minimum of searching; there is insufficient lighting to distinguish one bill from another.

    If she really pleased you, tip her above the agreed price. She'll remember you and be more likely to come to your table next visit.

    If she doesn't accept your terms at the table, she will likely walk away. But she may return later if she fails to find any takers. Or another girl will quickly take her place. Or you may spot another girl you want to see. Or you may see no one you want to see in the VIP; in which case, you may finish your drink and leave, and go to the next club and start over.

    Other members may have corrections or additions to what I posted here.

    Good luck in the club, and post your experience here.

  2. #18188

    Appreciate it

    Quote Originally Posted by WinterKnight  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for the clarification, MM! Yes, I freely admit I learned the hard way to follow those first two rules. We post our misadventures so others may learn from our mistakes.

    If you follow rule #3, you will be ahead of the game already because the girls deal with assholes all day or all night long.
    I appreciate the answers. I'd like to tell those that I indeed searched first time and info was limited, sooo. To clarify, I was hoping someone would break down the game. For instance, I could tell someone the massage game. When you say negotiate at the table I'm assuming you mean before you go in private. But I've never gone to a club at all. Open to suggestions on which club to try first, also what time is best! Thanks all.

  3. #18187

    Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    Rule number 2 will eliminate the majority of the problems. When she says you must pay in advance than simply say you changed your mind and walk out, any other options will lead to significantly more drama.

    She may tell you how her last customer cheated her. Girls who are not planning to cheat you have no reason to demand advance payment, this is one of the ways good providers signal that they will be a fun time in the VIP.

    Ignore this rule at your peril. We have all ignored it at least once. Some of have gotten lucky, but all of us have faced the negative consequences of paying in advance.

    MM.
    Thank you for the clarification, MM! Yes, I freely admit I learned the hard way to follow those first two rules. We post our misadventures so others may learn from our mistakes.

    If you follow rule #3, you will be ahead of the game already because the girls deal with assholes all day or all night long.

  4. #18186
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterKnight  [View Original Post]
    Advice? RTFF! There is a wealth of information in this thread on your topic.

    If you can't wait to go out, then read the following:

    Three basic rules:

    1) Always negotiate at the table.

    2) Never pay in advance.

    3) Don't be an asshole.
    Rule number 2 will eliminate the majority of the problems. When she says you must pay in advance than simply say you changed your mind and walk out, any other options will lead to significantly more drama.

    She may tell you how her last customer cheated her. Girls who are not planning to cheat you have no reason to demand advance payment, this is one of the ways good providers signal that they will be a fun time in the VIP.

    Ignore this rule at your peril. We have all ignored it at least once. Some of have gotten lucky, but all of us have faced the negative consequences of paying in advance.

    MM.

  5. #18185

    Ava

    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    Avoid Ava at SC at all costs! She has a nice body but is a puerto rican with stiff hair and is a complete ROB! She has had plenty of complaints about her and I am surprised she is still allowed to work there and rip people off.
    Jack. I have always had a great time with Ava and you can really talk her price down.

  6. #18184
    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    Avoid Ava at SC at all costs! She has a nice body but is a puerto rican with stiff hair and is a complete ROB! She has had plenty of complaints about her and I am surprised she is still allowed to work there and rip people off.
    Not trying to go against the grain here, but I've done a couple VIP with Ava now and have not had issue. First time she made me pay upfront and I expressed my concern. Settled on leaving it on table. Service was solid and accommodating. Not rushed. And she was eager to please. So maybe miscommunication issues? I'm not sure. But my experience has been fruitful with Ava. Her facedown ass up with her little innie pussy is a sight to behold. Sorry you've had issues with her. Would love to hear about her pitfalls via dm if possible.

  7. #18183
    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    Of course it's FC, which has the best of everything! It's rated as one of the top ten strip clubs in America for many a reason.
    What FC Employee opened an account here. LOL j / k.

  8. #18182

    Fc

    Ended up at FC last weekend night shift. I noticed Ashton, who is a thin young brunette with a perky natural body. I have seen her once before but doesn't seem to leave her regulars. I tipped her on stage but she went right back after her set. If anyone knows anything about her I would be interested to hear.

    I tried waiting for a while but ended up settling for Alici when she came by. A cute Cuban who I have seen multiple times. Thin body with nice man mades, has a thick accent but carries a good conversation. She always will agree to $$ and is a good performer upstairs.

  9. #18181

    Re: Rapport

    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    Building up a nice rapport with a stripper and then reaping it's advantages over time is one of the most satisfying aspects of the club scene!!
    Jack, I couldn't agree with you more! Building up a nice rapport with any SP is not only satisfying, but it also pays dividends in conserving resources otherwise expended searching or waiting for a girl. Regarding strippers, for example, I don't need to go to a club and pay cover, drinks, valet, and VIP tax and wait around for my favorite to be available; instead, I make suitable arrangements via text in advance (although sometimes that's merely to meet her in the club). I see several regulars at their homes, which is much more relaxing than the club.

  10. #18180
    Quote Originally Posted by DeanDuber  [View Original Post]
    First time poster in this thread. Have only ventured in massage / pay for time type game etc, where I am more versed. Last night I wanted to try a club locally I'm at telegraph and Plymouth area. Anyone have any advice to someone who is very clueless and wants to know what I'm getting myself into and how to avoide rookie mistakes. Pm welcome.
    First off RTFF. There are lots of reviews and descriptions of the various clubs in the Dearborn / Inkster / Romulus area that will give you an idea of what to expect. The nice thing for you is that this area is easy mode when it comes to strip club extras. Almost every dancer offers extras and even those few who don't won't be upset if you ask her about them. Nor do the bouncers or waitresses care if you're openly asking a dancer about FS or a BJ at the bar. Go to a club, get a drink and when you see a girl that interests you go talk to her or tip her on stage and ask her to come by. Tell her what you want, agree on services and price and then have fun.

    Whatever you do, don't let on that you are a rookie. If you do then you're just asking for a dancer to take advantage of you.

  11. #18179

    Advice for noobs in the club

    Quote Originally Posted by DeanDuber  [View Original Post]
    First time poster in this thread. Have only ventured in massage / pay for time type game etc, where I am more versed. Last night I wanted to try a club locally I'm at telegraph and Plymouth area. Anyone have any advice to someone who is very clueless and wants to know what I'm getting myself into and how to avoide rookie mistakes. Pm welcome.
    Advice? RTFF! There is a wealth of information in this thread on your topic.

    If you can't wait to go out, then read the following:

    Three basic rules:

    1) Always negotiate at the table.

    2) Never pay in advance.

    3) Don't be an asshole.

  12. #18178

    First timer

    First time poster in this thread. Have only ventured in massage / pay for time type game etc, where I am more versed. Last night I wanted to try a club locally I'm at telegraph and Plymouth area. Anyone have any advice to someone who is very clueless and wants to know what I'm getting myself into and how to avoide rookie mistakes. Pm welcome.

  13. #18177
    Quote Originally Posted by SemiRegular  [View Original Post]
    FYI. Looks like Subi's Halloween Party is Friday 10/25. Bt's has Halloween Weekend. Friday, Sat & Sun. Criket's party day is 10/29.

    Went into Criket. Very few patrons. I was surprised and pleased that on stage was Sabrina. Always wanted to visit with her.

    She looked to be everything others have described. Pretty and softspoken. Wears glasses, medium length brown hair, 5'2' thin, fit, toned, several tats, very nice smile.

    With the small crowd in the bar, thought I would finally get a chance to sample her talents when she was available.

    Tipped her on stage, asked her to stop by. Said she would. Sounded good to me.

    She left the stage. Brief visit to the ladies room. Then went to another table, sat and talked for 20 minutes.

    Led him to the VIP. That session lasted 5 stage dancers /3 songs each. About an hour later, she exited VIP. Briefly spoke to 2 other men.

    Sat down with another parton at the bar. 15 minutes later, took him to VIP.

    When a dancer has customers waiting in line, don't trick me to stay. Just tell me. I will simply move along.

    That was my cue to cut bait. Spent a couple hours, left with money in my pocket.

    Fortunately, Criket is usually a nice place to spend some time, even without VIP sessions.

    Apparently, today was not going to be my day to sample any treats.
    When you are as fine as Sabrina is and with her equally fine personality, the only way to crack her rotation is to get lucky or catch her on a slow hour of her shift. She doesn't need any new customers as she has more than she can handle at any given time. There is another girl in demand like that on day shift at Bogies, her name is Alexis and she is mid 30's with a perfectly curvaceous MILF body, beautiful face and personality!

    She is booked solid from the start of her shift until the end! Good luck in anyone new cracking her rotation.

  14. #18176
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterKnight  [View Original Post]
    Bogart's had a costume day earlier this week; maybe not their only one. The only reason I know is I was on my way to see my current favorite dancer when she asked me to bring her another schoolgirl uniform because she forgot to bring the uniform I already gave her. She is a petite AA girl in her early twenties. I don't recall her stage name, other than it starts with an and.

    So I went back home to fetch it. By the time I arrived, I had very little time for anything more than the basics, DATY, CBJ, CFS K9 before I had to return home. Rate was standard.

    She is very nice to me and obligingly provided her roommate for a threesome when I asked, the last time I saw her OTC, so I ensure I see her in the club when I can. I've known her over a year, so it's taken some time to achieve this level of familiarity.
    Building up a nice rapport with a stripper and then reaping it's advantages over time is one of the most satisfying aspects of the club scene!!

  15. #18175

    Ooh, snap

    Quote Originally Posted by ProjectCastor  [View Original Post]
    Subdued crowd and a fairly normal mix of girls for Monday day shift. Names I heard / saw included:

    - Lauren- flat-chested white blonde- skinny- nice smile.
    My style 100%. I guess I need to visit.

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