"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Verdit]

Any info on this baby would be appreciated.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...9-81202cb20fde

Her schedule was difficult to deal with. But when we did meet up she was submissive, loved to be chocked, and took dick with no problems.

[Peter Johnson]

Those that have it, is it worth it? Are there a lot of bots?

Have you RTFF? Why would we all be paying for Seeking if it wasn't worth it? And yes there are a lot of bots and fake accounts. And they are usually easy to spot.

[MarkT]

Those that have it, is it worth it? Are there a lot of bots?

[Also3030]

Here is her IG, You can definitely find out more about her.

https://www.instagram.com/theonlyskyrrose/

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...1-67a1e6e2d684

[Verdit]

Nice, small, and cute girl.

We had fun once we got in the room. BBBJ, but everything else covered.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...d-375ac3ec10bd

[Verdit]

- Finally, as in all things in life, always hope for the best but plan for the worst. Give yourself outs. Don't take unnecessary risks. If the wife thinks you're in Toledo for business when you're out of town with your SB, actually be in Toledo. Always be very deliberate about the chances you take and be vigilant - never let your guard down. Take the time to think through your worst case scenarios and have plausible excuses well rehearsed and ready to go.

Obviously this is just a quick list of general pointers. Feel free to send me a PM to discuss this further, I'm happy to share more insight on what's worked for me. Good luck!

Shit ALWAYS HAPPENS when you least expect it. I've been in hotels that had to be evacuated due to a fire! Always assume something random is going to happen you'll have to explain why you were in a particular location.

Be where you say you're gonna be. Don't take that gamble of flying to city B when you said you were in city A, because that's when flights will be cancelled or you'll be stuck somewhere you're not supposed to be.

Or even on a smaller scale, you could be the safest driver in the world, but if some dumbass slams into you on the east side of down and you were supposed to be at the office, you're going to have to explain why you were over there during that time of the day. Always have a legit reason to be in the area where you are. It makes it a lot simpler to explain when something completely outside of your control happens.

[Verdit]

She said that she wanted something that started online and then transitioned to us getting to know each other?

Wha. ?

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...a-f7f285772d07

[GoneForGood97]

A little trick which has always worked for me is to offer a little more for the first visit & then less for any further visit. Start with $400 & then $300 for every visit after.

Yeah, I've used this strategy as well. My go to strategy though is to offer to see them more frequently for less per week but more per month. "I could do 400 per date, but I can only see you once or twice a month, so you're getting 400-800 a month. If we do 250 per date, I could see you every week, so you'd be getting at least $1 K per month. Do you want $1 K a month or 400 per month?" They usually agree to the higher per month average, and everyone wins.

[NewAnonymousName]

Wants $$$ + a hotel b / c they can't host.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-581c6137725b

TRANS -- the profile says so.

[SeekingHead]

Yeah that's part reason why I was seeking advice. I worked my ass off the last decade to have the bank to do this.

Like 80 percent of me is okay being married and settled but 20% of me wants more and more adventure.

I've had several people say $500 per visit with an expect $2000 a month budget is good. Thanks to all the advice I've done the math and feel comfortable to start there but I was getting ready to offer her $800 per visit LOL.

A little trick which has always worked for me is to offer a little more for the first visit & then less for any further visit. Start with $400 & then $300 for every visit after.

[Sgt Soros]

500 is higher than you need to pay in Atlanta. You can get really good mid 20's single moms for 200-300. As FarAway hinted at, you actually end up hitting diminishing returns pretty hard at higher amounts. Joydrop is paying 0 for his unicorn. I've done anywhere from 150-400 allowance, and the sex was NEVER worth more than 300. I wrote up an analysis awhile back when I had a really successful month, comparing experiences for price, and concluded that actually paying more results in worse sex. Girls that want that much are pretty enough to command it and therefore never learn to be "good" in bed. They can starfish and will have a line of guys waiting to see them because they are "insta" pretty. Do you want boring sex with an 8 or fantastic mind blowing sex with a 7? Because in my experience, the more you pay, the worse it usually is. Especially if you're looking for a long term side girlfriend, you don't want someone who is only seeing you because you're a high PPM. It almost certainly means she's $ focused, which means she's seeing you and a few others as well. Don't fall into the trap of thinking "more $ leads to better. " These aren't luxury cars. I suppose if you absolutely want to nail a co ed with a perfect body, 500ppm would guarantee you that.

Here's the analysis I did last year, and no matter how much people moan about inflation, prices haven't gone up triple digits in the past year: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...44#post6464044.

Well said GoneForGood, this post needs to go in the posts of distinction thread. My hobby budget allowance is in the 150-300 range and I'm doing pretty well.

[Xcvxxx]

You should be getting tip top quality at that allowance. Instagram model quality. I have an IG model I get at 500 per, but she isn't orgasmic w / me, and overall the sex is just pretty good, not mind-blowing. She likes me because I am nice, clean, etc. And is always making me propositions. I am routinely turning those down. And note the market is different in different places. When I travel to a city I try to calibrate that.

More than 500 won't likely buy you a better experience.

Kind of weird but she she actually is an insta model who spent some time in Dubai. She moved to the states after she cut it off with her fiancée in Dubai and decided to relocate here with her mom whom lives here. She got here 5 months ago and she still doesn't know people here. She said I was her second date but the first was a disaster two gay guys trying to experience something with a girl lmfao. Anyways I'm likely to be the youngest guy in my area with the bag to offer her stability. Sex the first time was orgasmic for her but I think because she hasn't gotten any since she got here. With that being said I feel I could be cheaper but one thing to keep in mind is pump and dump escorts here in Myrtle was no less than 120/150 qv yes it's ridiculous and there is legit no girls in my area anymore which is why I'm excited about this chick. She young. Latina, hot as hell, cute face, and has the Brains.

[GoneForGood97]

Yeah that's part reason why I was seeking advice. I worked my ass off the last decade to have the bank to do this.

Like 80 percent of me is okay being married and settled but 20% of me wants more and more adventure.

I've had several people say $500 per visit with an expect $2000 a month budget is good. Thanks to all the advice I've done the math and feel comfortable to start there but I was getting ready to offer her $800 per visit LOL.

You should be getting tip top quality at that allowance. Instagram model quality. I have an IG model I get at 500 per, but she isn't orgasmic w / me, and overall the sex is just pretty good, not mind-blowing. She likes me because I am nice, clean, etc. And is always making me propositions. I am routinely turning those down. And note the market is different in different places. When I travel to a city I try to calibrate that.

More than 500 won't likely buy you a better experience.

500 is higher than you need to pay in Atlanta. You can get really good mid 20's single moms for 200-300. As FarAway hinted at, you actually end up hitting diminishing returns pretty hard at higher amounts. Joydrop is paying 0 for his unicorn. I've done anywhere from 150-400 allowance, and the sex was NEVER worth more than 300. I wrote up an analysis awhile back when I had a really successful month, comparing experiences for price, and concluded that actually paying more results in worse sex. Girls that want that much are pretty enough to command it and therefore never learn to be "good" in bed. They can starfish and will have a line of guys waiting to see them because they are "insta" pretty. Do you want boring sex with an 8 or fantastic mind blowing sex with a 7? Because in my experience, the more you pay, the worse it usually is. Especially if you're looking for a long term side girlfriend, you don't want someone who is only seeing you because you're a high PPM. It almost certainly means she's $ focused, which means she's seeing you and a few others as well. Don't fall into the trap of thinking "more $ leads to better. " These aren't luxury cars. I suppose if you absolutely want to nail a co ed with a perfect body, 500ppm would guarantee you that.

Here's the analysis I did last year, and no matter how much people moan about inflation, prices haven't gone up triple digits in the past year: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...44#post6464044.

[FarFarAway]

Yeah that's part reason why I was seeking advice. I worked my ass off the last decade to have the bank to do this.

Like 80 percent of me is okay being married and settled but 20% of me wants more and more adventure.

I've had several people say $500 per visit with an expect $2000 a month budget is good. Thanks to all the advice I've done the math and feel comfortable to start there but I was getting ready to offer her $800 per visit LOL.

You should be getting tip top quality at that allowance. Instagram model quality. I have an IG model I get at 500 per, but she isn't orgasmic w / me, and overall the sex is just pretty good, not mind-blowing. She likes me because I am nice, clean, etc. And is always making me propositions. I am routinely turning those down. And note the market is different in different places. When I travel to a city I try to calibrate that.

More than 500 won't likely buy you a better experience.

[Xcvxxx]

One more place you need to go. The Richmond VA board. There is an archive of highly useful past posts on sugaring. It used to be that the Richmond thread was the de facto national thread, people from all over posted there. It has died down a fair amount lately, but the old wisdom is still good.

That being said, typically sugaring is a game for guys in their 40's and up. And there is particular attraction of some girls on the site to much older guys. I personally am very grateful for that. I've had SB one-third my age. Don't be trying this yourself, obviously. And then most younger guys don't have the bank to do it, or don't want to spend theirs that way.

Yeah that's part reason why I was seeking advice. I worked my ass off the last decade to have the bank to do this.

Like 80 percent of me is okay being married and settled but 20% of me wants more and more adventure.

I've had several people say $500 per visit with an expect $2000 a month budget is good. Thanks to all the advice I've done the math and feel comfortable to start there but I was getting ready to offer her $800 per visit LOL.