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  1. #8098

    It is absurd

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave47  [View Original Post]
    700 is absolutely absurd. Especially if that's just for 15 minutes and all covered. I'll go so far as to say paying this much for a quick nut is a mental disorder. But let's say it's a "reasonable" 300 for 15 minutes full service. Let's say you go at night too. 10 dollar cover charge to get in. 50 dollar charge for the 15 minute room. Say 20 to 50 dollar on drinks and stage tipping. Now add the 300 for the 15 minutes of covered sex. And it's not like you're going to magically get instantly hard the moment you walk in the room either. You're looking at roughly 400 dollars for 10 minutes of shitty covered sex. Shit is absolutely INSANE. Forgo a couple of these "reasonable" rooms and you got yourself a plane ticket to South America, where you can bang 10 x hotter girls for 10 x less for 10 x longer.

    Having said all that LOL. Does anyone know if there are any older white MILFs working at desires or fantasies like Roxy who used to work at desires?
    I totally agree it is absurd. Lots of American guys don't know how much better it is elsewhere. Way way better, just get a passport save money and stop giving these entitled GPS hoes your hard earned money.

    I saw a Roxy Fantasies, dark hair, milfy, looked Latina. Same dancer maybe?

  2. #8097

    Bartender wingwoman or dressing room intercept

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey1994  [View Original Post]
    Agree with what you guys are saying.

    Think with the big head not the little one.

    With that in mind, Sassy is always busy. Her MILF vibe does it for me.

    I never want to be that guy, chiseling in while a dancer is talking to someone.

    I've never seen her alone.

    Thoughts?
    Thanks Joey. Sassy is the perfect example. Is she the best looking in the club? No, but is she super cool and fun to hang with? Hell yes.

    Anyway, funnily enough I pulled the dressing room intercept with her once. She was with a reg for a while and I was checking out the stage sets. You have to time it, but I saw her get up heading for the dressing room and I got up to 'bump' into her, asked if she could come over when she wasn't busy. Helped she knew me. She was grateful and even told me the guy she was with was a regular, but 'he doesn't get rooms every time and doesn't feel like it today, I'll be over in a few' Boom you're in.

    The other option is have your friendly bartender wing woman tell her you're interested. This has sometimes worked for me, but if they are with a good customer it may not. Worth a shot.

    With that said, I agree not blowing up another guys spot, I don't want it to happen to me so I avoid doing it to other guys out of respect. Plus if I'm planning on spending and getting a room and a dancer ditches me for another guy, she's dead to me forever.

  3. #8096
    Quote Originally Posted by Mosess  [View Original Post]
    Let's talk about pricing for a minute. Recently I've had several expensive asks at CD, $700 for FS, $700 for a BJ to a promise with absolutely no details for $800. I passed as should you. Now, I'm not here to tell you how to spend your money, or complain about fucking up the local economy and what not. Instead, what I would like to talk about is why overpaying pretty much never works in your favor. There are several reasons and some more subtle long term factors.
    700 is absolutely absurd. Especially if that's just for 15 minutes and all covered. I'll go so far as to say paying this much for a quick nut is a mental disorder. But let's say it's a "reasonable" 300 for 15 minutes full service. Let's say you go at night too. 10 dollar cover charge to get in. 50 dollar charge for the 15 minute room. Say 20 to 50 dollar on drinks and stage tipping. Now add the 300 for the 15 minutes of covered sex. And it's not like you're going to magically get instantly hard the moment you walk in the room either. You're looking at roughly 400 dollars for 10 minutes of shitty covered sex. Shit is absolutely INSANE. Forgo a couple of these "reasonable" rooms and you got yourself a plane ticket to South America, where you can bang 10 x hotter girls for 10 x less for 10 x longer.

    Having said all that LOL. Does anyone know if there are any older white MILFs working at desires or fantasies like Roxy who used to work at desires?

  4. #8095

    Preach fellas!

    Agree with what you guys are saying.

    Think with the big head not the little one.

    With that in mind, Sassy is always busy. Her MILF vibe does it for me.

    I never want to be that guy, chiseling in while a dancer is talking to someone.

    I've never seen her alone.

    Thoughts?

  5. #8094

    Yup!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosess  [View Original Post]
    Let's talk about pricing for a minute. Recently I've had several expensive asks at CD, $700 for FS, $700 for a BJ to a promise with absolutely no details for $800. I passed as should you. Now, I'm not here to tell you how to spend your money, or complain about fucking up the local economy and what not. Instead, what I would like to talk about is why overpaying pretty much never works in your favor. There are several reasons and some more subtle long term factors.

    1) Basic, you lose more money and have to work harder and longer.

    2) Basic, you can't have fun as many times because you are blowing your cash wad often.

    3) Subtle, your self-worth Decreases, especially if you seem like you shouldn't be paying that much.

    4) Subtle, her self-worth and pride Increases, leading to all sorts of undesirable behavior short term and long term.

    5) Addendum to 4. Not only does this have a Negative effect on You, it has a Negative effect on Every Guy She Meets In The Future.

    Let me explain the last three. Think of the interaction as a transfer, not just of money but of time and energy. If women date or sell themselves for Gain, then men date and pay for a Loss. You want to keep this loss as small as possible.

    Here's what happens when she meets a whale. It's fun for a little while, she doesn't have to do as many rooms, she's getting her bills paid. But either quickly or over time she begins to Lose all respect for you. You thought maybe that being a big baller would keep her more loyal, Hell No. She knows deep down she isn't worth it and has lots of demons. She knows she is a very flawed (sometimes straight psycho or unable to function in normal society), she cries herself asleep at night, she's a mess. She's not all that no matter how many stupid memes she posts online. (Not all are like this but many are).

    Now here you come and you are treating her like a princess, but she knows deep down she's fucked up. Wait, what kind of a man pays big cash for a super fucked up woman, oh he must be very messed up if he does, I know I'm not worth it or he's just stupid and easy mark, yeah maybe that's it. What a loser, I'm going to play him and string him along for all the money he's worth!

    And there you go! Your princess starts flaking out, cancelling, and you lost 2 X, 3 X, or even 4 X of what you should have! Bad mistake!

    Wait, he must be messed up, but my pride tells me I AM and can worth $800 for FS. I mean someone laid it right? He was a loser but He Paid Yeah! That's my price now!

    This is the Origin Of GPS!

    I know the post is long and a bit deep, but think about it!

    The next time some girls try to overcharge Pass! Patience always wins in this game. Either she comes down or you find a better one!
    YUP!

    What he said! I think it gets that way faster than we realize. I use Karma at Fantasies perfect example. Did one VIP with her and she made it clear that as of now, she has no plans to do FS as she feels "I don't need to sell myself to do well here". Then she proceeds to ***** about girls who give FS away for $200. Talk about mixed messaging.

    I love a good value (seeing how I absolutely love to go to Tijuana frequently! But am more than willing to go out of my way to pay for great service or more importantly, consist performance. I see no value in the "hot for a second" new girls, unless they make it clear their intentions. Otherwise, why bother. ?

  6. #8093

    How overpaying is almost always a bad idea

    Let's talk about pricing for a minute. Recently I've had several expensive asks at CD, $700 for FS, $700 for a BJ to a promise with absolutely no details for $800. I passed as should you. Now, I'm not here to tell you how to spend your money, or complain about fucking up the local economy and what not. Instead, what I would like to talk about is why overpaying pretty much never works in your favor. There are several reasons and some more subtle long term factors.

    1) Basic, you lose more money and have to work harder and longer.

    2) Basic, you can't have fun as many times because you are blowing your cash wad often.

    3) Subtle, your self-worth Decreases, especially if you seem like you shouldn't be paying that much.

    4) Subtle, her self-worth and pride Increases, leading to all sorts of undesirable behavior short term and long term.

    5) Addendum to 4. Not only does this have a Negative effect on You, it has a Negative effect on Every Guy She Meets In The Future.

    Let me explain the last three. Think of the interaction as a transfer, not just of money but of time and energy. If women date or sell themselves for Gain, then men date and pay for a Loss. You want to keep this loss as small as possible.

    Here's what happens when she meets a whale. It's fun for a little while, she doesn't have to do as many rooms, she's getting her bills paid. But either quickly or over time she begins to Lose all respect for you. You thought maybe that being a big baller would keep her more loyal, Hell No. She knows deep down she isn't worth it and has lots of demons. She knows she is a very flawed (sometimes straight psycho or unable to function in normal society), she cries herself asleep at night, she's a mess. She's not all that no matter how many stupid memes she posts online. (Not all are like this but many are).

    Now here you come and you are treating her like a princess, but she knows deep down she's fucked up. Wait, what kind of a man pays big cash for a super fucked up woman, oh he must be very messed up if he does, I know I'm not worth it or he's just stupid and easy mark, yeah maybe that's it. What a loser, I'm going to play him and string him along for all the money he's worth!

    And there you go! Your princess starts flaking out, cancelling, and you lost 2 X, 3 X, or even 4 X of what you should have! Bad mistake!

    Wait, he must be messed up, but my pride tells me I AM and can worth $800 for FS. I mean someone laid it right? He was a loser but He Paid Yeah! That's my price now!

    This is the Origin Of GPS!

    I know the post is long and a bit deep, but think about it!

    The next time some girls try to overcharge Pass! Patience always wins in this game. Either she comes down or you find a better one!

  7. #8092

    Nicolette

    Quote Originally Posted by Sj2222  [View Original Post]
    She lost the weight? WOW. She had put some on. Still the best I ever had there.
    She gained some weight and lost a lot. She's looking good, but I'm on the fence. I have had some members PM me that she is psycho and others tell me she is a super fun time. I don't know if I want to roll the dice and find out myself. Some of the stories were crazy. Either way she gets business, always is getting scooped up when I am there as opposed to certain dancers who literally go up to every guy one by one asking for a dance.

  8. #8091

    Nicolette

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosess  [View Original Post]
    Rolled in around 10:30 with a buddy was his 1st time. Wanted to introduce him to the experience, tried to convince him CF was a better choice but he was set on Desire. Hey I'm not going to say no to naked women.

    Partial Lineup:

    Kaylani.

    London.

    Amy.

    EMoney.

    Aria.

    Thick Mexican dancer with tattoos. Someone posted her pic a long time ago on here, said she had scammer vibes. Never verified that. Does gymnastics or some shit. Never got a name.

    Chiara.

    BBL Latina. Unknown.

    Kami.

    Nicolette. She was looking fine and is almost back to her original self. Lost the weight. Good for her.

    Three very hot dancers I've never seen before.

    Tried to get my buddy to go VIP and get intel but he just wanted to hang at the stage. Got to talking with Aria, but couldn't make the deal. Too bad she was looking really good.

    VERY tempted to take Nicolette to the back, but she got scooped.
    She lost the weight? WOW. She had put some on. Still the best I ever had there.

  9. #8090

    Different

    Quote Originally Posted by BridesMilk  [View Original Post]
    London? White girl? Dark hair? Incredible natural tits? By far the hottest woman I've ever seen in person? She's back?
    This London is a short AA spinner with curly hair and works nights. Looks cute, but definitely not the London you are thinking of. CD recycles a lot of names and it is confusing.

  10. #8089
    Quote Originally Posted by Mosess  [View Original Post]
    Rolled in around 10:30 with a buddy was his 1st time. Wanted to introduce him to the experience, tried to convince him CF was a better choice but he was set on Desire. Hey I'm not going to say no to naked women.

    Partial Lineup:

    Kaylani.

    London.

    Amy.
    London? White girl? Dark hair? Incredible natural tits? By far the hottest woman I've ever seen in person? She's back?

  11. #8088

    K

    Quote Originally Posted by RICheeseHead  [View Original Post]
    Kai?

    Watch out, she has a club Lust sugar daddy on Thursdays.
    It's not Kai either this is a night girl. I think she was there the other day. I'm going to approach her next time. She seems like a good one.

    Yes I am aware LOL and I've always thought he was a fine guy and I don't want to blow up his spot LOL.

    Speaking of which the other guys at CD can be hit or miss, but the club does a good job of ejecting most jackasses or troublemakers, although they do nothing about piss boy probably because he spends money. Day is definitely better in that regard, but I've seen some aggressive guys at night.

  12. #8087

    Nicolette CD

    Just searched reviews. Mixed and remember asking a while back at her request for race in her add so if I'm you're not Caucasian she while deny you? LOL, sucks for me. I have yet to try her in the club. But she gets scooped up fast. Crazy stories about this girl, may not be worth the trouble.

  13. #8086

    CD Friday night

    Rolled in around 10:30 with a buddy was his 1st time. Wanted to introduce him to the experience, tried to convince him CF was a better choice but he was set on Desire. Hey I'm not going to say no to naked women.

    Partial Lineup:

    Kaylani.

    London.

    Amy.

    EMoney.

    Aria.

    Thick Mexican dancer with tattoos. Someone posted her pic a long time ago on here, said she had scammer vibes. Never verified that. Does gymnastics or some shit. Never got a name.

    Chiara.

    BBL Latina. Unknown.

    Kami.

    Nicolette. She was looking fine and is almost back to her original self. Lost the weight. Good for her.

    Three very hot dancers I've never seen before.

    Tried to get my buddy to go VIP and get intel but he just wanted to hang at the stage. Got to talking with Aria, but couldn't make the deal. Too bad she was looking really good.

    VERY tempted to take Nicolette to the back, but she got scooped.

  14. #8085
    Quote Originally Posted by Mosess  [View Original Post]
    I saw Kaylani that night and this is a different girl. Has dark hair opposed to Kaylani's blonde hair. This one seems more relaxed than Kaylani (Kaylani can sometimes have GPS) and this other K sometimes posts on the club ig page.

    Also, to add to the confusion I forgot to mention there was a third curvy / thick Asian but she bordered on being a BBW. She was cool and gave me a bunch of good signs like asking me if "Knew how it worked there" LOL.

    I should have just taken her for a room because I want to reward the good dancers here and tell the GPS ones to pound sand and fuck off.
    Kai?

    Watch out, she has a club Lust sugar daddy on Thursdays.

  15. #8084
    Quote Originally Posted by Mosess  [View Original Post]
    Noticed that at Desire too. Something is up, or maybe guys are paying the high amounts. What they don't realize is they mostly can't sustain it, so it's one guy paying $600 and 10 guys who would have paid half but passed instead. Didn't know Amy cost that much, LOL. Good job passing. Stupid.
    It's 100% true. A lot of dancers keep stating that they won't do VIP fun for less than $X. What they don't realize is that they could have had several VIP at a lower $ value that would pay their bills. The true hustlers are the ones who are willing to do them for the typical rate and do quite a few every day. At Fantasies, Cleo is a perfect example. She routinely asks for $200+house and today, I watched her go to VIP AT LEAST 6 times that I saw. Not a bad day for her. (Definitely catch her right after open if you don't want to be the last guy getting sloppy 2 nds). Then I see girls like Eva or Kaylee or Karma who want insane $ and sit on their hands all day watching their phones. Guys are getting smarter and are learning value. I don't look for the high volume girls, but look for the nice looking girls who are not in your face to get a VIP. Today, $200+house and had a great time with a girl I've had multiple sessions with. And she is one of the hotter ladies in Fantasies. Still, I like variety and will likely look elsewhere next time.

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