"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Vader5]

What was the donation? Yea she smoked a bowl it sounds like within a few minutes of meeting you.

Also something I'm seeing lately is girls are asking for current testing status within 2 months for uncovered stuff, both SB's and Pro's. I've been getting tested quarterly at the VA.

She started out asking for 500 if I remember right, but we agreed to 400. But that was with me thinking she was attractive.

And yeah, on the increase in girls requiring testing, I think possibly a big contributor to that is a lot of these girls read the are / sugarlifestyleforum subreddit and that is something commonly preached on there. I've had numerous SBs tell me they're avid readers of that subreddit. They get a lot of their allowance expectations from there too.

[Vader5]

Dude, thanks for TOFTT and reporting back and kudos on taking the mini loss and dipping out.

I corresponded with her a few times and ended up finally moving on. Bottom line, we agreed on a price for a date and then she tried to push that number up in a variety of ways. So at that price point, I decided to think with the bigger head and pivot to a coffee date before anything further, which reset the communication and timeline altogether. She then pushed the coffee date bid up which further soured the whole interaction and I then decided she was not my cup of tea for multiple reasons. Sounds like she is trying to get in and out for the least effort and most cash. I also noticed during further research that any photo where she was smiling with teeth revealed a less than ideal situation going on, which corroborates your suspicions.

Mongers beware.

Good read on your part, you dodged a bullet. She is indeed the hustler type. And you mentioning her teeth reminded me, they are in fact in rough shape.

[SeekingHead]

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...b-7764fdb503ec

This girl has had numerous accounts. Currently it's "bankerbarbie", but previously it was "mandyatl" if I remember correctly. Anyways, she is probably my second worse seeking experience of all time.

She met me at my hotel. I'm outside and she pulls up and rolls the window down and smoke starts billowing out like in a Cheech and Chong movie. I wanted to dip, but I was invested and wanted to try to make it work. She gets to the room with me and gets undressed. She's very unattractive in person, at least to me. She looks worn out. Her skin is saggy and she's skinny so it's like a soft bag of bones. Her body looks firm in her pics but I assure you it's not. I could also smell a metallic smell to her and it made me think I was smelling meth. I don't know what meth smells like, but if I had to guess, that would be it. And she acted like she was on something very strong. She proceeds to give a CBJ even though that's not what we agreed to. It was absolutely terrible. No suction and I couldn't even feel it. Even the face she made when doing it turned me off and it actually pissed me off because she was tweaking or something. Never felt so catfished before in my life and I couldn't stand her presence and the way she carried herself in general. At that point I told her to stop and get out of my room. I paid her a small amount of what we agreed to so she wouldn't pitch a fit. In my opinion she's a catfish and she doesn't know or at least act like she knows what she's doing in the bedroom. I wouldn't attempt a repeat if she paid me.

What was the donation? Yea she smoked a bowl it sounds like within a few minutes of meeting you.

Also something I'm seeing lately is girls are asking for current testing status within 2 months for uncovered stuff, both SB's and Pro's. I've been getting tested quarterly at the VA.

[MSmith3034]

Dude, thanks for TOFTT and reporting back and kudos on taking the mini loss and dipping out.

I corresponded with her a few times and ended up finally moving on. Bottom line, we agreed on a price for a date and then she tried to push that number up in a variety of ways. So at that price point, I decided to think with the bigger head and pivot to a coffee date before anything further, which reset the communication and timeline altogether. She then pushed the coffee date bid up which further soured the whole interaction and I then decided she was not my cup of tea for multiple reasons. Sounds like she is trying to get in and out for the least effort and most cash. I also noticed during further research that any photo where she was smiling with teeth revealed a less than ideal situation going on, which corroborates your suspicions.

Mongers beware.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...b-7764fdb503ec

This girl has had numerous accounts. Currently it's "bankerbarbie", but previously it was "mandyatl" if I remember correctly. Anyways, she is probably my second worse seeking experience of all time.

She met me at my hotel. I'm outside and she pulls up and rolls the window down and smoke starts billowing out like in a Cheech and Chong movie. I wanted to dip, but I was invested and wanted to try to make it work. She gets to the room with me and gets undressed. She's very unattractive in person, at least to me. She looks worn out. Her skin is saggy and she's skinny so it's like a soft bag of bones. Her body looks firm in her pics but I assure you it's not. I could also smell a metallic smell to her and it made me think I was smelling meth. I don't know what meth smells like, but if I had to guess, that would be it. And she acted like she was on something very strong. She proceeds to give a CBJ even though that's not what we agreed to. It was absolutely terrible. No suction and I couldn't even feel it. Even the face she made when doing it turned me off and it actually pissed me off because she was tweaking or something. Never felt so catfished before in my life and I couldn't stand her presence and the way she carried herself in general. At that point I told her to stop and get out of my room. I paid her a small amount of what we agreed to so she wouldn't pitch a fit. In my opinion she's a catfish and she doesn't know or at least act like she knows what she's doing in the bedroom. I wouldn't attempt a repeat if she paid me.

[Vader5]

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...b-7764fdb503ec

This girl has had numerous accounts. Currently it's "bankerbarbie", but previously it was "mandyatl" if I remember correctly. Anyways, she is probably my second worse seeking experience of all time.

She met me at my hotel. I'm outside and she pulls up and rolls the window down and smoke starts billowing out like in a Cheech and Chong movie. I wanted to dip, but I was invested and wanted to try to make it work. She gets to the room with me and gets undressed. She's very unattractive in person, at least to me. She looks worn out. Her skin is saggy and she's skinny so it's like a soft bag of bones. Her body looks firm in her pics but I assure you it's not. I could also smell a metallic smell to her and it made me think I was smelling meth. I don't know what meth smells like, but if I had to guess, that would be it. And she acted like she was on something very strong. She proceeds to give a CBJ even though that's not what we agreed to. It was absolutely terrible. No suction and I couldn't even feel it. Even the face she made when doing it turned me off and it actually pissed me off because she was tweaking or something. Never felt so catfished before in my life and I couldn't stand her presence and the way she carried herself in general. At that point I told her to stop and get out of my room. I paid her a small amount of what we agreed to so she wouldn't pitch a fit. In my opinion she's a catfish and she doesn't know or at least act like she knows what she's doing in the bedroom. I wouldn't attempt a repeat if she paid me.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...3-fd53b19d60e2

Skyebunny.

She is rough. She started out great and I had another Member recommend her. Also we did a double with her. She was Drugged out of her mind and I left. And then she got mad when she didn't have my allowance since we didn't do anything because she was high.

Face tattoos are about the biggest red flags that there are. I would never meet up with a girl who has one of those, because you know something is very wrong in there.

[Member #7066]

Do you have a seeking link for her? Willing to share?

Whats the dangerous habbit? Can't leave us hanging like that!

[CrazyRocket]

Senior members please share you thoughts.

I just joined seeking and bought premium. I reached out to few those are discussed here as real profiles. Also contacted few on my own. I am not targeting top 20's profile but average profiles.

I sent message to them and only couple of them has replied so far. It is been 3 days. Also the one who replied said definitely interested. I responded to it. Basically 3 messages total. Never got response to my last message so I asked her again after few hours about why no response and she basically blocked me. She is constantly online and did not respond to me so I asked her.

Is it enough reason to block even after first enthusiastic message??

My question, is it same for you? They take so much time to respond and even say interested then play games like it? I thought they would be eager to chat and finally meet? Is it this much fragile?

If you can share your usual / on average experience that would be great.

DM is fine too.

You are not alone, don't feel bad.

Back in the good old days of OkCupid where "casual sex" meant the women were ready to meet immediately if they liked you, I had a fake account to stalk an ex. It was filled with first google image search results for "asian cosplayer" so it was beyond obvious that it was fake. Even so, to my surprise, I ended up receiving hundreds of messages in mere days.

Those girls receive tons of messages in a day. You are lucky if they actually reply. That's why you need to be very precise with what you want from the girl.

I recently put it to a test with a local SB who seems to be on site for meeting up quick. I messaged her, told her what I'm looking for and we moved to text. She then kept texting me about when to meet and such, which I don't quite like and I didn't proceed. For me, it's a red flag. SA is full of men. If a woman on SA is being pushy about meeting, or trying to convince you to meet if you have concerns by not addressing your concerns but making excuses, there is something extremely fishy there. Be extremely cautious while dealing with women on SA if you are unexperienced. Never share your real phone number or your full name. Don't invite them to your place if you are not prepared to deal with a nasty situation if things go bad and the girl goes nuclear on you.

There have been discussions here about SA ladies being ridiculous at times up to a point where signing up with local K-agencies is much more economical in term of time. To be honest, there was only one time that I really wanted to meet up with an SB who was reviewed here a year and a half ago. (Belle, for those who know her, please feel free to PM.) I chatted with her quite a while but due to my inexperience with securing my real identity, I chickened out and didn't meet her.

[LoriTruck]

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...serId=72275583

Wants 400, can't host. Also see link below.

https://www.maturetubehere.com/video...m_source=iwank

[VoraraMesh66]

I read each of the advice multiple times. It definitely help someone like me who is new to hobby. Really appreciate your guidance.

Keep it simple, not too short or too much. Be very direct about you are real and wanting to meet irl.

You are the one who provides here and if they don't respond back, it's their loss. I followed the op and some other tips and was on date with 12 girls in last two weeks. Also your profile age does matter.

It's like anywhere else online. Your return rate as a male is going to be low. That's just how it is. These girls get dozens of messages. You're a new profile. Be patient and when you send an ice breaker message, make it sound human so they know you're not a scammer in Indonesia. It's going to take longer than 3 days for you to get any traction.

Don't get in your feelings.

My profile is blank I have very few words. It says something like. I'm New here just checking this out.

They really don't care how you look for real they care about the cash. They will after chatting a few times ask you to send a pic. This is what I do and I will get a few new messages a day. Some I like some I don't. I don't reply to everyone and sometimes I take my time answering. You should never send multiple messages it makes you seem desperate and sends up red flags. If you must send more than one message wait a day or two don't make it seem like that's all you have to do in life is sending them multiple messages it gives off stalker vibes. You have to use a spider technique spin a web and wait she will come back she wants money she is a sugar baby once she is in the web you are in more control take your control back. You are let them control the outcome don't do that.

Treat SA like a dating site. You need quality pics and a quality profile to attract interest. No personal details are needed but the profile needs to make clear you are doing well. I don't reach out to people and I normally get 2 to 3 people hitting me up daily not including the international scammers or people outside the area which I ignore. I could have much more interest if I juiced the profile but I prefer to be direct. The people hitting the profile are all shapes, sizes, and races and I chose what I want. Remember SA girls are not the cheapest option so get ready for sticker shock when you start talking business. Last thing, never talk business on the platform. Once you get a decent hit move the discussion to your GV or Telegram account or risk getting banned. SA doesn't play.

Safe Hunting.

SA is a lot of work. It was a great site in 2015-2018, then like all things internet it has devolved. Then add COVID and the elimination of Craigslist and Backpage. I'd guess it is now 90% worthless (scams, bots, content sellers, and providers that are just a notch above SW.) Having said that, there are some genuine contacts to be made, especially international. Here in the ATL and surrounding areas, you'll have to send / sift thru 10 emails to find 1 genuine contact.

[Turtman]

Don't get in your feelings.

My profile is blank I have very few words. It says something like. I'm New here just checking this out.

They really don't care how you look for real they care about the cash. They will after chatting a few times ask you to send a pic. This is what I do and I will get a few new messages a day. Some I like some I don't. I don't reply to everyone and sometimes I take my time answering. You should never send multiple messages it makes you seem desperate and sends up red flags. If you must send more than one message wait a day or two don't make it seem like that's all you have to do in life is sending them multiple messages it gives off stalker vibes. You have to use a spider technique spin a web and wait she will come back she wants money she is a sugar baby once she is in the web you are in more control take your control back. You are let them control the outcome don't do that.

Keep it simple, not too short or too much. Be very direct about you are real and wanting to meet irl.

You are the one who provides here and if they don't respond back, it's their loss. I followed the op and some other tips and was on date with 12 girls in last two weeks. Also your profile age does matter.

[Airmantroy]

Somebody has to know something about her. Lovee Liyra.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...7-1fb97843948b

If you have any info I'd appreciate it, trying to get something setup with her. PM is fine.

[CrimpShrine]

I sent message to them and only couple of them has replied so far. It is been 3 days.

It's like anywhere else online. Your return rate as a male is going to be low. That's just how it is. These girls get dozens of messages. You're a new profile. Be patient and when you send an ice breaker message, make it sound human so they know you're not a scammer in Indonesia. It's going to take longer than 3 days for you to get any traction.

[JohnnyKash]

Senior members please share you thoughts.

I just joined seeking and bought premium. I reached out to few those are discussed here as real profiles. Also contacted few on my own. I am not targeting top 20's profile but average profiles.

I sent message to them and only couple of them has replied so far. It is been 3 days. Also the one who replied said definitely interested. I responded to it. Basically 3 messages total. Never got response to my last message so I asked her again after few hours about why no response and she basically blocked me. She is constantly online and did not respond to me so I asked her.

Is it enough reason to block even after first enthusiastic message??

My question, is it same for you? They take so much time to respond and even say interested then play games like it? I thought they would be eager to chat and finally meet? Is it this much fragile?

If you can share your usual / on average experience that would be great.

DM is fine too.

Don't get in your feelings.

My profile is blank I have very few words. It says something like. I'm New here just checking this out.

They really don't care how you look for real they care about the cash. They will after chatting a few times ask you to send a pic. This is what I do and I will get a few new messages a day. Some I like some I don't. I don't reply to everyone and sometimes I take my time answering. You should never send multiple messages it makes you seem desperate and sends up red flags. If you must send more than one message wait a day or two don't make it seem like that's all you have to do in life is sending them multiple messages it gives off stalker vibes. You have to use a spider technique spin a web and wait she will come back she wants money she is a sugar baby once she is in the web you are in more control take your control back. You are let them control the outcome don't do that.

[JohnnyKash]

Treat SA like a dating site. You need quality pics and a quality profile to attract interest. No personal details are needed but the profile needs to make clear you are doing well. I don't reach out to people and I normally get 2 to 3 people hitting me up daily not including the international scammers or people outside the area which I ignore. I could have much more interest if I juiced the profile but I prefer to be direct. The people hitting the profile are all shapes, sizes, and races and I chose what I want. Remember SA girls are not the cheapest option so get ready for sticker shock when you start talking business. Last thing, never talk business on the platform. Once you get a decent hit move the discussion to your GV or Telegram account or risk getting banned. SA doesn't play.

Safe Hunting.

Sorry not ment for you ment for VoraraMesh66