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**DaVinciB1** · 09-10-24 09:34

Originally Posted by LuvNHookers [View Original Post]

Definitely one to avoid. Those looks, definitely high end hotness, plus the one-pop rule tells me CBJ, zero intimacy, and attitude. I'm sure YMMV but I doubt it "v's" very much. To each his own.

She's actually GFE, BBBJ, kissing, DATY, etc. , but requires an additional fee for a 2nd pop. Which tells me too many cats have just accepted this behavior and allow girls to still operate in this business. My guess is that it's mostly older dudes who really can't pop twice in an hour and that's what she's been used to. Not happening, I don't dabble in that price range unless the reviews are overall glowing and spell out MSOG. Shit for that price, I'm asking straight up, do you allow MSOG.

**LuvNHookers** · 09-10-24 08:02

Originally Posted by Crsfitlvr [View Original Post]

Some just use it to mean eat your Wheaties because it's going to be a nonstop fuck session with lots of positions and exercise.

It used to mean a more "nasty" experience. More intense, harder action, any position you could think of, maybe multiple pops, maybe sexy name-calling, pretty much like how you describe it. But it was VERY unusual for it to mean BBFS. I remember a thread on an escort forum on that avenue way back that providers who advertised PSE were upset that guys thought it meant BBFS. I can't remember the last time I saw a lady advertise PSE. The only ones now are those Asian ads that I filter out since they all look like ripoff ads.

**LuvNHookers** · 09-09-24 23:28

Originally Posted by DaVinciB1 [View Original Post]

Ayla Cruz,

To my earlier point, charges 600 per hour, but here's the catch. You get 1 pop unless you pay extra. You got to be kidding me, 600 dollars and all I get is 1 pop, so glad I have access to TER.

https://tryst.link/escort/cruz-ayla029

https://www.eros.com/virginia/files/2881730.htm?cat=1

Definitely one to avoid. Those looks, definitely high end hotness, plus the one-pop rule tells me CBJ, zero intimacy, and attitude. I'm sure YMMV but I doubt it "v's" very much. To each his own.

**DaVinciB1** · 09-09-24 22:11

Ayla Cruz,

To my earlier point, charges 600 per hour, but here's the catch. You get 1 pop unless you pay extra. You got to be kidding me, 600 dollars and all I get is 1 pop, so glad I have access to TER.

https://tryst.link/escort/cruz-ayla029

https://www.eros.com/virginia/files/2881730.htm?cat=1

**Crsfitlvr** · 09-09-24 09:28

I've always assumed GFE meant kissing, BBBJ, and DATY available. Agreed Greek is extra. Wrinkle is the "PSE" moniker- that varies from covered Greek / covered FS to BBFS depending on the lady. Some just use it to mean eat your Wheaties because it's going to be a nonstop fuck session with lots of positions and exercise. So looking for a lady open to what I'm particularly looking for (GFE with covered FS and Greek) is a difficult search without paying for TER or P411.

It seems that Onlyfans and the like have really altered the market pricing. A lot of ladies are attempting to get subscribers as a primary source of income rather than meetups. Unfortunately it doesn't seem that many who do this have particularly good service records.

Originally Posted by LuvNHookers [View Original Post]

GPS is a beyotch.

I have often wondered at this. Not the rates so much as the service. It has gotten to the point where I wonder if the definition of GFE may be changing. GFE providers used to offer BBBJ maybe tc or not, DFK, MSOG, and a more intimate experience. Greek has always been extra, at least for me. But now a lot of girls are doing BBFS and even advertising it (sometimes the upcharge is not even that much). Perhaps GFE and BBFS are becoming synonymous? If this is the case then maybe they don't offer GFE.

But service in this area is not great. There are those who offer a great experience at a decent rate but that is fading. If it weren't for STG and other internet sites most of deez heaux would be street girls catching for an extra $5. But the area is what it is and is not likely to change.

The first girl is super hot IMHO but not worth those rates. Those looks usually come with an attitude. The last girl I remember who looked that good or better was called Rebecca and she had a perfect body and sweet personality and was open to literally everything for $250 but this was 2001-2. Plus I hate when they say no BB. Does that include BBBJ or not? It's not like I'm going to ask and get busted if I start thinking with my dick.

The other girl? It doesn't surprise me. I don't even look at black girl ads. 90% of them say no BBBJ which is a show stopper for me. Plus they think being able to pound down a party size bag of Doritos in 5 seconds gives them a fat ass. Yes, but not what I'm looking for. It seems like only the black BBW girls have tits and they point straight at the floor. Skinny black girls breasts look like someone glued flapjacks to their chest.

I may have to start making weekend trips to Richmond or NC.

**LuvNHookers** · 09-07-24 17:10

Originally Posted by DaVinciB1 [View Original Post]

I've been doing this shit for awhile, and back in the day a price point actually meant something. For instance, circa 2010-2015 ish, if a provider charged 300/400, she was most definitely GFE (kissing, daty, etc) and MSOG. Now these no good mfs try and charge that and have the nerve to put No GFE in the ads. Who is visiting these sorry, GPS having mfs? Better yet if they have handlers, who is advising them?

https://tryst.link/escort/princesssalena23

300/ hh but no GFE? FMTY 6 K?

https://tryst.link/escort/zea

Huh? WTF? No DATY, but wants regulars?

GPS is a beyotch.

I have often wondered at this. Not the rates so much as the service. It has gotten to the point where I wonder if the definition of GFE may be changing. GFE providers used to offer BBBJ maybe tc or not, DFK, MSOG, and a more intimate experience. Greek has always been extra, at least for me. But now a lot of girls are doing BBFS and even advertising it (sometimes the upcharge is not even that much). Perhaps GFE and BBFS are becoming synonymous? If this is the case then maybe they don't offer GFE.

But service in this area is not great. There are those who offer a great experience at a decent rate but that is fading. If it weren't for STG and other internet sites most of deez heaux would be street girls catching for an extra $5. But the area is what it is and is not likely to change.

The first girl is super hot IMHO but not worth those rates. Those looks usually come with an attitude. The last girl I remember who looked that good or better was called Rebecca and she had a perfect body and sweet personality and was open to literally everything for $250 but this was 2001-2. Plus I hate when they say no BB. Does that include BBBJ or not? It's not like I'm going to ask and get busted if I start thinking with my dick.

The other girl? It doesn't surprise me. I don't even look at black girl ads. 90% of them say no BBBJ which is a show stopper for me. Plus they think being able to pound down a party size bag of Doritos in 5 seconds gives them a fat ass. Yes, but not what I'm looking for. It seems like only the black BBW girls have tits and they point straight at the floor. Skinny black girls breasts look like someone glued flapjacks to their chest.

I may have to start making weekend trips to Richmond or NC.

**DaVinciB1** · 09-07-24 09:38

I've been doing this shit for awhile, and back in the day a price point actually meant something. For instance, circa 2010-2015 ish, if a provider charged 300/400, she was most definitely GFE (kissing, daty, etc) and MSOG. Now these no good mfs try and charge that and have the nerve to put No GFE in the ads. Who is visiting these sorry, GPS having mfs? Better yet if they have handlers, who is advising them?

https://tryst.link/escort/princesssalena23

300/ hh but no GFE? FMTY 6 K?

https://tryst.link/escort/zea

Huh? WTF? No DATY, but wants regulars?

**GAGuy2020** · 08-21-24 19:12

If a man can't get everything done in a QV with an average 304, he has deeper issues and need to be seeing somebody higher quality or go on a dating site. The funny part is you can go 1 to 2 hours and they still limit you to one pop so you're not getting more for more time.

Average looking 304's should be able to get you off quickly, just a wet hole and a single nut for 100-120 and honestly ugly / fat / trashy should be cheaper but fools over pay and mess up the market. If a thinner cute 30 something Asian girl charges 120 there's no reason why an obese ugly trailer trash girl with bad flappy skin should be charging the same because they're not the same.

If looking for an emotional connection or bonding go to a dating site. If you want a supermodel experience, you can get a TL From Columbia for about 200-300 bucks. Some say QV some say HH at that but that's more than enough time. So if an average girl or a trashy girl tries to charge more than $250, know that you're getting ripped off even if you don't feel like it or want to admit it.

If you want to have a longer session less rules with multiple pops experience and you got the income, hit up the sugar sites. You can get an above average girl for almost unlimited time with almost no rules for about 300-400 bucks. That's why it's laughable for some girls to charge 500.

I'm sure I triggered enough people to get some nasty comments by just stating facts, but that's the reality of it. LOL.

Originally Posted by DaVinciB1 [View Original Post]

I'll admit, these days I'm more of a hh type of guy. Most of the time I just want to get my rocks off and bounce. But there are some that have enticed me enough to want to spend for the hour. Of course a second pop has to be offered in the negotiations and the price has to match. Lately I have been coming across some ads and reaching out to girls with reasonable prices for both hh and hr sessions. I'm talking 200/300 or 250/350, but when I ask if MSOG is offered for the hour some say no. I'm not a marathon man, but I will use my tactics to hold off and get a few positions in for that hh, but once that nut is gone I'm thinking, daamn I could have saved $100 and just went with the hh. So my question is, what is the incentive for springing for the hour if you're really only getting a qv or hh's worth of action? Do hookers think you're getting over on them by asking for or getting a second pop for the hour?

**GAGuy2020** · 08-21-24 18:55

That's a fact, but if you try to point that out on here there's a lot of people that get their panties in a bunch and start crying when they hear facts. LOL.

Originally Posted by SwordKnight [View Original Post]

Hate to break this news to you, GAGuy: a ho's going to lie.

**RateGuy9** · 08-20-24 19:56

Originally Posted by DaVinciB1 [View Original Post]

That's the thing, IMO there's really no difference between QV and HH. For what I need to accomplish that is. What I have seen with these price points is, some will go low on the QV, say 120 or 150 and then shoot up to 250 for a hh. I'm going with the QV every time on that one. As for the traveling latinas, 250 or 300 is the sweet spot for hh, but then some with shoot up to 500 for the hr, again I'm going hh. Most are GFE (I will ask before committing to book) so as long as I can get BBBJ, maybe some kissing then I'm good. Some agencies offer the 250/ hh and 350/ hr, I'm good with that, I may opt for the hour if I've been with a girl from the agency, but initially I may just do hh to test the waters.

It's why I'm so particular about dfk if we're going to spend time what are we doing nonstop for an hour. I usually go for a quick first shot so I have time to recover for a second.

**DaVinciB1** · 08-20-24 14:00

Originally Posted by FatherGlucose [View Original Post]

I feel you with getting value worth with time. Qv is too quick for me so I usually go for hhr if I do an hour its with a regular who I've been with so I know I can get a little more bang for the buck (no pun intended). If I go out on a limb to try a new lady for an hr (usually when I'm out of town) I look for her website and or social media to get an idea for what she's like and her do's and don'ts. If it doesn't line up, I won't do it. I look for the next one.

That's the thing, IMO there's really no difference between QV and HH. For what I need to accomplish that is. What I have seen with these price points is, some will go low on the QV, say 120 or 150 and then shoot up to 250 for a hh. I'm going with the QV every time on that one. As for the traveling latinas, 250 or 300 is the sweet spot for hh, but then some with shoot up to 500 for the hr, again I'm going hh. Most are GFE (I will ask before committing to book) so as long as I can get BBBJ, maybe some kissing then I'm good. Some agencies offer the 250/ hh and 350/ hr, I'm good with that, I may opt for the hour if I've been with a girl from the agency, but initially I may just do hh to test the waters.

**Father Glucose** · 08-20-24 13:28

Originally Posted by DaVinciB1 [View Original Post]

I'll admit, these days I'm more of a hh type of guy. Most of the time I just want to get my rocks off and bounce. But there are some that have enticed me enough to want to spend for the hour. Of course a second pop has to be offered in the negotiations and the price has to match. Lately I have been coming across some ads and reaching out to girls with reasonable prices for both hh and hr sessions. I'm talking 200/300 or 250/350, but when I ask if MSOG is offered for the hour some say no. I'm not a marathon man, but I will use my tactics to hold off and get a few positions in for that hh, but once that nut is gone I'm thinking, daamn I could have saved $100 and just went with the hh. So my question is, what is the incentive for springing for the hour if you're really only getting a qv or hh's worth of action? Do hookers think you're getting over on them by asking for or getting a second pop for the hour?

I feel you with getting value worth with time. Qv is too quick for me so I usually go for hhr if I do an hour its with a regular who I've been with so I know I can get a little more bang for the buck (no pun intended). If I go out on a limb to try a new lady for an hr (usually when I'm out of town) I look for her website and or social media to get an idea for what she's like and her do's and don'ts. If it doesn't line up, I won't do it. I look for the next one.

**DaVinciB1** · 08-20-24 13:00

I'll admit, these days I'm more of a hh type of guy. Most of the time I just want to get my rocks off and bounce. But there are some that have enticed me enough to want to spend for the hour. Of course a second pop has to be offered in the negotiations and the price has to match. Lately I have been coming across some ads and reaching out to girls with reasonable prices for both hh and hr sessions. I'm talking 200/300 or 250/350, but when I ask if MSOG is offered for the hour some say no. I'm not a marathon man, but I will use my tactics to hold off and get a few positions in for that hh, but once that nut is gone I'm thinking, daamn I could have saved $100 and just went with the hh. So my question is, what is the incentive for springing for the hour if you're really only getting a qv or hh's worth of action? Do hookers think you're getting over on them by asking for or getting a second pop for the hour?