Massage Parlor Reports

**BarneySanders** · 08-08-24 00:17

Originally Posted by Thunter [View Original Post]

Two visits in July and gone legit, same as Healing Spa by the Cigar shop. Water Lilly off Davis I have not been by in a month? Is Seems options will be limited until things sort out.

Healing by the Cigar shop is 100% legit. In fact, excellent professional massage.

Water Lilly still has the tacky blue lights on but no first hand intel.

**Dr Willy** · 08-07-24 23:28

As I read HB197, and as Thunter has alluded to previously, employees of a Massage Establishment are not required to scan, or even view, your government issued ID. The law simply states they are required to "verify", but does not demand examination of government issued ID. One could ask how verification is possible WITHOUT viewing an ID, such as your Driver License, but this law does not explicitly demand that action as the sole possible method. The Massage Establishment could reasonably contend that they viewed the customer's business card, or his "Employee Badge/ID", or any other reasonable form of (NON-GOVERNMENT ISSUED) identification.

How they choose to "verify" would seem to have been left ambiguous by the wording of the law, so if LE wants to criticize their verification procedures, LE would still seem to have a difficult time enforcing any sort of government issued ID check. As the law fails to demand that action on the part of the Massage Establishment.

For those contemplating flashing a "fake government issued ID" to an AMP, be aware that use of a "fake ID", McLovin' or otherwise, has other consequences. Florida Law stipulates that it's illegal to possess and/or display a fake, forged, stolen, counterfeit or borrowed driver's license or state-issued identification card. The statute (Florida Statute 322.212) makes the mere possession of a fake ID a crime, and the ID does not need to be used for any particular purpose. If you are caught with a fake ID, the penalty can be filed (at the discretion of the States Attorney) as a third-degree felony carrying a jail sentence of up to 5 years with a fine up to $5000 (that's a lot of hobby-dollars). This CLEARLY does not apply to a NON-government issued form of identifcation.

So, if one wanted to employ use of a "fake ID", make sure it's a bogus Employment Badge or Identification, or some other NON-GOVERNMENT issued ID ... even a business card! ... with the necessary information to satisfy any AMP asking for ID. If a customer were to DO that, once you leave the AMP, there is nothing tying you back to that bogus logbook entry, as long as you don't show LE your "fake" business card, Employee Badge/ID, or any other non-government issued ID you may have used (this to address QuartzBs concern below).

For the full text of House Bill 197, CLICK HERE and draw your attention to Paragraph F, beginning at PDF document line number 250 on page 11, for specific reference to the matters discussed above. For anyone paranoid about links, or otherwise click-challenged, I'll paste a snippet here again that Thunter pasted a few days ago:

(f) A massage establishment must maintain a complete set
of legible records in English or Spanish, which must include the
date, time, and type of service or treatment provided; the full
legal name of the employee who provided the service or
treatment; and the full legal name, home address, and telephone
number of the client or patient. Medical records may satisfy
this requirement if the records include the specified
information. A copy of the client's or patient's photo
identification may be used to provide the full legal name and
home address of the client or patient. Records required under
this paragraph must be maintained for at least 1 year after a
service or treatment is provided. All information required under
this paragraph must be collected and recorded before any service
or treatment is provided to a client or patient. The
establishment must confirm the identification of the client or
patient before any service or treatment is provided to the
client or patient.

For anyone getting 'pulled over' by LE after an AMP visit, ostensibly for some minor traffic violation, and then being interrogated by the deputy, the YouTube video here would seem to be a safe, albeit "ballsy" way to handle that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-AjJeunXk

I'm sure that would piss off the deputy for not being able to use you for their harrassment objectives of the AMP, so I'm also guessing they'd make that 'traffic stop' as long as painful as possible, but as long as you've done nothing else illegal, LE should have nothing on you. JUST DON'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS! ... it's your right NOT to do so.

**VetteDrvr** · 08-07-24 16:23

Originally Posted by RickJohn [View Original Post]

Just wondering if any of you guys bring you own condoms and what brand you recommend for the most sensitive ones. Also, at what point do you present it to your girl? Do they ever care?

Bring mine (custom fit). Usually place it on the side table with a Jackson as a teaser incentive.

UNSOLICITED / UNCOMPENSATED PLUG:

LUCKYBLOKE.COM

Nothing like a CUSTOM FIT CONDOM that makes all things in the world better.

Drvr.

**Thunter** · 08-07-24 15:07

Originally Posted by JimmyJack1817 [View Original Post]

My bad. Meant to ask about A Relaxing Massage on Tamiami in East Naples. Drove by too fast the first time and misread the name. Online it looks promising but wonder if no extras since it's the only one around still working.

Two visits in July and gone legit, same as Healing Spa by the Cigar shop. Water Lilly off Davis I have not been by in a month? Is Seems options will be limited until things sort out.

**JimmyJack1817** · 08-07-24 09:01

Originally Posted by JimmyJack1817 [View Original Post]

Went by Yian, DC and a few other East Naples places. Looks like all closed except Relaxation Station. Anyone have feedback on them?

My bad. Meant to ask about A Relaxing Massage on Tamiami in East Naples. Drove by too fast the first time and misread the name. Online it looks promising but wonder if no extras since it's the only one around still working.

**JimmyJack1817** · 08-06-24 22:03

Originally Posted by Thunter [View Original Post]

No proof but given their history and the recent news reports they were likely closed. The news report said there were 20 regulatory cases, two cease-and-desist orders and two cease-desist orders pending.

Went by Yian, DC and a few other East Naples places. Looks like all closed except Relaxation Station. Anyone have feedback on them?

**Thunter** · 08-06-24 19:17

Originally Posted by BiffButthead [View Original Post]

Today I went by Ramsay Way to investigate why we no longer see them on STG. I checked units 3,4 and 5 at 5245 and there was no answer after several attempts. I could barely see inside, but unit 4 the reception door was open and the room behind it appeared empty. Unless I was at the wrong location there seems to be nothing there.

I did get a response from a text what I thought was to Ramsay way, but turns out to be a Hispanic place on Del Prado. She didn't know anything about if they were related to Ramsay Way. I had hoped to go to the scent shop but there was a mixup and didn't get the appointment with the provider I requested. I will be abundantly specific the next time I try that. Overall a disappointing day.

Ramsey seemed to die around the 1st of July. All ads and associated social media vanished without a trace including the Instagram account. Maybe Tamara found a SD, new law worries or something bad happened, no idea. I posted previous on this and the Escort board asking but no additional intel.

**Thunter** · 08-06-24 19:12

Originally Posted by JimmyJack1817 [View Original Post]

Back in town and stopped by Macau in East Naples. Looked like it is closed down. Thought window shades open was just due to the new law but the sign off was off and looked closed up. Anyone have any info on them?

No proof but given their history and the recent news reports they were likely closed. The news report said there were 20 regulatory cases, two cease-and-desist orders and two cease-desist orders pending.

**BiffButthead** · 08-06-24 15:01

Today I went by Ramsay Way to investigate why we no longer see them on STG. I checked units 3,4 and 5 at 5245 and there was no answer after several attempts. I could barely see inside, but unit 4 the reception door was open and the room behind it appeared empty. Unless I was at the wrong location there seems to be nothing there.

I did get a response from a text what I thought was to Ramsay way, but turns out to be a Hispanic place on Del Prado. She didn't know anything about if they were related to Ramsay Way. I had hoped to go to the scent shop but there was a mixup and didn't get the appointment with the provider I requested. I will be abundantly specific the next time I try that. Overall a disappointing day.

**JimmyJack1817** · 08-06-24 14:50

Originally Posted by JimmyJack1817 [View Original Post]

Got in town last night for a visit and hit the massage place by Tamiammi and Rattlesnake. Seems to change names often but goes by Macau now. Had Lucky as my provider and I sure was lucky. She's very good looking and likes her job. Said she's orinally from LA but moving here. Great body, D cups and soft. Finished Russian but I think she had a full menu. MS is older and same as last year. She likes to wear shiny tight fitting dresses so you will know if you draw her. Be safe.

Back in town and stopped by Macau in East Naples. Looked like it is closed down. Thought window shades open was just due to the new law but the sign off was off and looked closed up. Anyone have any info on them?

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**PorkSword** · 08-05-24 10:18

Originally Posted by Retired11 [View Original Post]

Has anyone spoken to Mira recently? I have tried for the past 2 weeks to see her.

She is on vacation for the month!

**QuartzB** · 08-05-24 09:54

" The establishment must confirm the identification of the Client or patient before any service or treatment is provided to the client or Patient.”

This does not seem to indicate any proof is necessary but a copy "may" be used vs and intake form. The last sentence is somewhat confusing and seems duplicated. Nothing in this says it's mandatory to verify, collect or keep a copy of an I'd for clients.

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that the clause "the establishment must confirm the identification of the Client. " means that the spa must see some sort of identification. How else can they confirm the clients identify?

Further, I imagine that it's probably illegal for the client to give false information on an intake form. The false information alone could be a charge by itself.

Take what I wrote with a grain of salt. Once again, I'm not a lawyer.

**Retired11** · 08-05-24 06:25

Has anyone spoken to Mira recently? I have tried for the past 2 weeks to see her.

**BareOnly2018** · 08-04-24 19:09

Originally Posted by PorkSword [View Original Post]

https://winknews.com/2024/07/31/11-a...e-parlor-bust/

I found it funny because I'm sure there are some reviews of those ladies in here. Someone will list early 20's or 30's. Yet they were all late 40's or 50's. Haha.