Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**RufusFirefly** · 07-02-24 12:05

Once again I reiterate that you failed to take the higher ground. You could have blocked her and ignored the text but you chose to stoop to a low level and bash her on two different strings when she cannot defend herself.

I have shared her number with many mongers and many of them have thanked me. She is a good provider and yes she makes mistakes. You think you are so much better than these ladies. So what makes you better after all you pay for their services.

Listen to Gypsys, Tramps, and Thieves by Cher. I will take a drug addict over a bully.

Originally Posted by SmokeyGringo [View Original Post]

Always on the ladies side you are. There you go again throwing your opinion that you've gotten smacked repeatedly for about right and wrong on reviews.

She would have been fine and I would've just said "fuck it" on leaving a review had she not thrown in that after about my address and number after spending hours texting, reading her whackadoo responses, and deciding if I wanted to part with 3-400. To me it's a major line to cross and it's best not to even joke or reference it for a provider.

Also, she ain't got just ADHD. She, you, and her other white knight can rationalize it all you'd like. She's an addict and with that it's obvious she gets super emotional and will go on a wrath. I try to stick to tell what I encountered and help other members "proceed with caution", "Good to go", or "you're going to have a bad time".

**Smokey Gringo** · 07-02-24 11:30

Always on the ladies side you are. There you go again throwing your opinion that you've gotten smacked repeatedly for about right and wrong on reviews.

She would have been fine and I would've just said "fuck it" on leaving a review had she not thrown in that after about my address and number after spending hours texting, reading her whackadoo responses, and deciding if I wanted to part with 3-400. To me it's a major line to cross and it's best not to even joke or reference it for a provider.

Also, she ain't got just ADHD. She, you, and her other white knight can rationalize it all you'd like. She's an addict and with that it's obvious she gets super emotional and will go on a wrath. I try to stick to tell what I encountered and help other members "proceed with caution", "Good to go", or "you're going to have a bad time".

**Vinnie Kramer** · 07-02-24 10:36

Preponderance of what evidence? Did the glove not fit? Blue dress with white stains?

You're a hoot.

Originally Posted by RufusFirefly [View Original Post]

Your are totally right what is the truth. Yes this has been in response to a recent report. Yes I am working off of two conflicting stories but just like a judge in a civil case I look at the preponderance of evidence to make my decision on which is true. Because I cannot prove that the report is false I will not attack the report or monger directly. Now I did leave clues to the report.

Once again the key to the success or the utility of this forum is that the mongers give the mist honest and accurate reports of activities. This is not a forum for mongers to make false claims to hurt a provider because they had an argument or a disagreement. That does not help us.

**RufusFirefly** · 07-02-24 09:36

Oh wow that's the best you got calling me a White Knight and saying Roofie Baby. That is good. Yes I am a White Knight to the ladies that treat me good. I treat her as a lady and we are friends. Try treating the ladies better and you might get better service and treated better.

I never said she was right. I know her well and she does let her emotions get to her at times but you have to realize that she has to deal with many mongers who lie and try to get her to lower her rate and give her grief. Oh and that goes for all the other ladies out there.

So let's just say you were a gentleman throughout your texts. That is not a reason to make the very descriptive and long report you did. That is what teenagers do because their brains have not developed completely and they do not make the best decisions.

You should see the text string we had before we met. Instead of making a long report about her I worked through it and it has paid off. She might have made a mistake but that is no reason to bring her down and try to get mongers not to see her when she cannot defend herself. Even if she had an account she would not be able to defend herself. That is why she needs White Knights. Yes more than just me. But you made a report on the Dayton and Cincinnati string.

So I guess you have never made a mistake and wish that you did not do that. Bonita is a great provider. She is a sweet lady. She is a breath of fresh air in this hobby. Guess what she gets mad at me at times and yes sometimes I deserve it and sometimes I don't. She is human not a machine. Give her and the other ladies a break.

I heard both sides of the story and I know the truth is somewhere in the middle. Once again you made the report knowing she was defenseless so to me that is childish. And yes I am being nice with saying it was childish.

I am Bonita's White Knight and I am proud of it. She has taken care of my needs and I will continue to defend her.

For those mongers looking for a sweet mid 30's spinner that can fly off the handle at times then you need to check out Bonita up near Dayton. You lost out man.

Originally Posted by SmokeyGringo [View Original Post]

It's the Octagon Rooofie baby. Don't dance around it, you can name me. Mr. White Knight himself is mad because I left a review on that nutty frustrating woman from Beavercreek he suggested. And as a matter of fact, if you look in the Dayton sub, they actually call him the exact same thing for his behavior and reviews. And come to find after multiple mongers reached out, she was part of the board and got banned for making fake accounts and drama or arguing. And for the record here is her little quip about having my "real address and phone number" . I have the rest of her stupid chat and nonsense.

So what now mi amigo?

**Smokey Gringo** · 07-02-24 08:58

It's the Octagon Rooofie baby. Don't dance around it, you can name me. Mr. White Knight himself is mad because I left a review on that nutty frustrating woman from Beavercreek he suggested. And as a matter of fact, if you look in the Dayton sub, they actually call him the exact same thing for his behavior and reviews. And come to find after multiple mongers reached out, she was part of the board and got banned for making fake accounts and drama or arguing. And for the record here is her little quip about having my "real address and phone number" . I have the rest of her stupid chat and nonsense.

So what now mi amigo?

**RufusFirefly** · 07-02-24 05:55

Originally Posted by VinnieKramer [View Original Post]

What is the truth and how do you know it?

Your are totally right what is the truth. Yes this has been in response to a recent report. Yes I am working off of two conflicting stories but just like a judge in a civil case I look at the preponderance of evidence to make my decision on which is true. Because I cannot prove that the report is false I will not attack the report or monger directly. Now I did leave clues to the report.

Once again the key to the success or the utility of this forum is that the mongers give the mist honest and accurate reports of activities. This is not a forum for mongers to make false claims to hurt a provider because they had an argument or a disagreement. That does not help us.

**Vinnie Kramer** · 07-01-24 22:52

What is the truth and how do you know it?

Originally Posted by RufusFirefly [View Original Post]

I have tried to make a report on false reports and got infractions. I am just letting everyone know that making false reports is not helpful.

**Hooter12** · 07-01-24 22:41

Originally Posted by RufusFirefly [View Original Post]

It is too bad that mongers feel the need to bring down some of these lovely ladies by making questionable reports because they got mad at a lady. Yes these ladies provide a service that we all want and most of them do it because it is their only option. Most due to choices they have made in the past and many of those are still making those bad choices.

So when you make a false report on a lady because you are angry with you you are not o ly hurting a lady that is trying to support herself but you are misleading other mongers. It is hard enough to find good providers so we do not need bad reports by mongers. This forum is about providing good information.

So please if you want to act like a teenage girl and make false reports because you are mad then open a FB account. Oh the monger I am writing this to probably already has one.

This is a forum for real men not people pretending to be men. Oh this is not the first issue I have had with this monger. He responded to one of my reports on this string by disparaging people who English is their second language. So first he brings down people that know at least two languages and now he us trying to hurt a lady that provides very good service.

We all want truth in reports so we can make better decisions on how to spend our hard earned money.

I guess my question would be if you weren't there or directly involved, how do you know that a specific report is false? Not believing a report is ok but doesn't necessarily mean its false.

**RufusFirefly** · 07-01-24 18:26

Originally Posted by HillbillyBob [View Original Post]

If someone is making false post you need to let us know who it is so we can avoid his post.

I have tried to make a report on false reports and got infractions. I am just letting everyone know that making false reports is not helpful.

**Hillbilly Bob** · 07-01-24 16:45

Originally Posted by RufusFirefly [View Original Post]

It is too bad that mongers feel the need to bring down some of these lovely ladies by making questionable reports because they got mad at a lady. Yes these ladies provide a service that we all want and most of them do it because it is their only option. Most due to choices they have made in the past and many of those are still making those bad choices.

So when you make a false report on a lady because you are angry with you you are not o ly hurting a lady that is trying to support herself but you are misleading other mongers. It is hard enough to find good providers so we do not need bad reports by mongers. This forum is about providing good information.

So please if you want to act like a teenage girl and make false reports because you are mad then open a FB account. Oh the monger I am writing this to probably already has one.

If someone is making false post you need to let us know who it is so we can avoid his post.

**RufusFirefly** · 07-01-24 06:04

It is too bad that mongers feel the need to bring down some of these lovely ladies by making questionable reports because they got mad at a lady. Yes these ladies provide a service that we all want and most of them do it because it is their only option. Most due to choices they have made in the past and many of those are still making those bad choices.

So when you make a false report on a lady because you are angry with you you are not o ly hurting a lady that is trying to support herself but you are misleading other mongers. It is hard enough to find good providers so we do not need bad reports by mongers. This forum is about providing good information.

So please if you want to act like a teenage girl and make false reports because you are mad then open a FB account. Oh the monger I am writing this to probably already has one.

This is a forum for real men not people pretending to be men. Oh this is not the first issue I have had with this monger. He responded to one of my reports on this string by disparaging people who English is their second language. So first he brings down people that know at least two languages and now he us trying to hurt a lady that provides very good service.

We all want truth in reports so we can make better decisions on how to spend our hard earned money.

**BamBam** · 06-20-24 19:09

I got to agree with DNut here. I believe the site TOS prohibit the sharing of PII and/or actual number on the forums. Regardless of the rules, it is certainly against our norms. If you want to privately ask for such info via PM (and you have not revealed yourself to be a dick in some way) you can generally get cooperation.

BAM

Originally Posted by DNut [View Original Post]

(moving this from the Escort thread).

Doxxing is the publication or dissemination of PII, personally identifiable information, without consent. Period. Hard stop. It doesn't make qualifications such if the person is still alive or deceased. Although often used for the purposes of harrassment, the lack of a nefarious intent doesn't preclude that sharing PII of someone else without consent is still doxxing.

**D Nut** · 06-20-24 08:54

(moving this from the Escort thread).

Originally Posted by MightyDemTim [View Original Post]

Doxxing can only be done to somebody who's alive, so you can harass them with phone calls and calling SWAT on them. Can't do that to someone who's dead.

I actually wanted to make a small donation to her family, if she has any. Can't do that if I only know her stage name in the hobby.

Doxxing is the publication or dissemination of PII, personally identifiable information, without consent. Period. Hard stop. It doesn't make qualifications such if the person is still alive or deceased. Although often used for the purposes of harrassment, the lack of a nefarious intent doesn't preclude that sharing PII of someone else without consent is still doxxing.

**DrDave39** · 06-04-24 12:42

Originally Posted by SmokeyGringo [View Original Post]

Oh well. It's going to be like Sisyphus. But here's some cats.

Ah, the true purpose of the Internet, finally. Cute cat pictures!

**Smokey Gringo** · 06-03-24 16:48

Originally Posted by DNut [View Original Post]

This is the very first post of The Octagon. Talking about incall or outcall, or whatever Gringo wants to talk about is actually misplaced for the purpose of the Octagon.

Oh knock it off. I just tried to change the subject to something and yeah it was something bugging ME. But anybody else could have chimed with something else and still can.