The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[SaintMan3500]

Anyone having luck with any long terms lately. Considering taking the dive back into it and have had some good luck in the past but the last two memberships produced noting.

I've been using Seeking Arrangements for around 5 Years. And have met over 40-50+ women on that website (taking into account public meet ups). My experience is mostly from women who are in Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Greensboro, & Winston Salem. Did anywhere from $100-$400 My experiences are:

*2019-2022*.

Pretty good. SA Had a plethora of more attractive women on that site. Felt like a bottomless pit of women you can message and meet. Didn't have to worry as much about scammers. Could talk to multiple women, get responses relatively quicker. Could talk to multiple women at the same time and set up meet ups every week, or every 2 weeks. I also had full on arrangements with average-decent looking women for $100-$200 for hours on end.

*2023-2024*.

-Massively large influx of Fake Profiles. Either it's 1-2 low life men from another location using multiple profiles, or it's some type of group behind all of this. Instagram model pics, horrible bio, reaches out first if you view their profile with a generic "hiiiiiii". And it's just constant and never ending.

- A lot more ghosts, flakers, and morons who stand you up. I've dealt with this on a far larger scale since 2023. Single Digit IQ women who have the conversation skills of a rock. Folks who you have a decent convo with and you think everything is well until they stand you up when you meet them, despite confirming prior.

-Toe Dippers. People who "aren't sure" or they hear of the website from a friend. But clearly really nervous and obviously don't really have the confidence to be on the site.

- Gold diggers trying to milk for everything. Want Paid Meet and Greet. Want to be paid 1 K+ in arrangement. Fools who ask for $300 meet and greet. Just like the clown who said she had a PPM arrangement over 2 K and wants to stick with that. And then when they don't get this, they just leave the site or take a break because they don't get their way.

- Much more platonic only clowns. Just wants to be paid for existing. Doesn't want to do anything physical, or just endless promises for the next time.

-Feels like less women have been coming on the site or less new profiles that are legit.

So overall, my luck has SUCKED when it came to New Arrangements in 2023-2024. Even some arrangements I did have in 2023 lasted an extremely short while compared to 2019-2022. While 2019-2022 was drastically better. I have dealt with actual scammers(that were real women) but I would always file successful chargeback claims or report on Paypal/Venmo to get any Gas money or anything else back.

[jobobtheclown]

I have two sbs that I see now that I have been seeing off and on for 2 years now. They are hard to find though and one month may not get you there. The high number of platonic, online only, straight up scammers, semi-pros, or chicks with insane gps make it pretty hard work these days.

Agreed on all counts. It's possible to find someone, but I wouldn't recommend it if you don't on some level enjoy talking to new people, regardless of the eventual outcome.

You can also consider other sites: I've gotten feedback that girls on WYP have trouble finding people for dates. But WYP is playing with fire since most of them have no interest in a meet beyond the first, so it's a much more expensive exploratory process. Secret Benefits is scammy AF, since it fakes online status to make you think it's teeming with SBs even if they've not actually logged in for months, but I've met a few legit women on there.

[Member #6718]

Anyone having luck with any long terms lately. Considering taking the dive back into it and have had some good luck in the past but the last two memberships produced noting.

I have two sbs that I see now that I have been seeing off and on for 2 years now. They are hard to find though and one month may not get you there. The high number of platonic, online only, straight up scammers, semi-pros, or chicks with insane gps make it pretty hard work these days.

[Sobe69]

Anyone having luck with any long terms lately. Considering taking the dive back into it and have had some good luck in the past but the last two memberships produced noting.

[Raltime]

Anyone hit this one up, https://members.seeking.com/member/d...7-3e5d48ba8d9f

[TXGuido]

Has anyone here ever.

10. PrincessMarie.

Description: I talked about her before, but am curious if anyone has seen her or talked to her either recently or long ago.

Back when I met her, she was decent to talk to. But also seemed very business like in terms of "I do X for why amount".

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...7-ab21c0a3301c

Been there, done that. She's nice. Her approach initially online is def a bit dry, but in person she's warmer. She has a great little body, but I just didn't quite click with her as I'd hoped. I wouldn't at all say she's a pro, but she's very used to this type of dynamic so she's blunt and open about everything. Personally I found that to be a good thing.

[WhatYaThinkXXX]

Violet quoted me 1 k to meet. Blocked her instantly.

Has anyone here ever.

A. Talked to (Via SA or Text / App).

B. Met.

C. Had an arrangement.

With any of the women below? If so, what was your experience like? Whether it was good, ok, or bad, etc.

1. lillaylaaviolet710.

Description: Profile says she's been on Seeking since 2021. She used to be in the Greensboro area, but seems to be in Durham.

I remember having convos with her before, and even getting to the point of getting her number. But communication would always be horrible, or it'd end in eventual silence.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-76e3380ac9cd

2. S are 200.

Description: Early 30's. Been on Seeking for a long while. Something about reading her bio makes me think she'd be a headache, but I could be wrong.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...8-8ed5585bf6b8

3. Painting Perfection.

Description: Looks attractive. We briefly talked, but hasn't gotten back to me yet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...a-b404185c29f9

4. xoxxxox.

Description: Although she is in the Fayetteville area of NC, I briefly remember me and her having a decent convo on seeking. She seemed open to traveling to raleigh for a public meet up, but we never did move forward. Since she hadn't logged back on at the time.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...8-d6cf51e2d48d

5. PrettyVenus.

Description: Despite her having no bio.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-a378137e4e71

6. neurobunny.

Description: She looks very familiar, but I don't know why. Regardless, looks ok / decent. Ok profile. Probably picky, as she ignored my message. Anyone ever met her or had a good convo with her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...e-007764ebd7a0

7. Sparkyjuju.

Don't think I've ever messaged her, but she's been on seeking for awhile.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...f-52063fd692a3

8. Paradise Island.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...0-2b596673f894

9. SapphireDreams.

Description: Cute. Decent Profile in terms of Bio. Doesn't come across as negative. I might have messaged her before, but I can't really remember. She's been on seeking for a good while.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...3-6229d1909d30

10. PrincessMarie.

Description: I talked about her before, but am curious if anyone has seen her or talked to her either recently or long ago.

Back when I met her, she was decent to talk to. But also seemed very business like in terms of "I do X for why amount".

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...7-ab21c0a3301c

[SaintMan3500]

Has anyone here ever.

A. Talked to (Via SA or Text / App).

B. Met.

C. Had an arrangement.

With any of the women below? If so, what was your experience like? Whether it was good, ok, or bad, etc.

1. lillaylaaviolet710.

Description: Profile says she's been on Seeking since 2021. She used to be in the Greensboro area, but seems to be in Durham.

I remember having convos with her before, and even getting to the point of getting her number. But communication would always be horrible, or it'd end in eventual silence.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-76e3380ac9cd

2. S are 200.

Description: Early 30's. Been on Seeking for a long while. Something about reading her bio makes me think she'd be a headache, but I could be wrong.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...8-8ed5585bf6b8

3. Painting Perfection.

Description: Looks attractive. We briefly talked, but hasn't gotten back to me yet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...a-b404185c29f9

4. xoxxxox.

Description: Although she is in the Fayetteville area of NC, I briefly remember me and her having a decent convo on seeking. She seemed open to traveling to raleigh for a public meet up, but we never did move forward. Since she hadn't logged back on at the time.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...8-d6cf51e2d48d

5. PrettyVenus.

Description: Despite her having no bio.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-a378137e4e71

6. neurobunny.

Description: She looks very familiar, but I don't know why. Regardless, looks ok / decent. Ok profile. Probably picky, as she ignored my message. Anyone ever met her or had a good convo with her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...e-007764ebd7a0

7. Sparkyjuju.

Don't think I've ever messaged her, but she's been on seeking for awhile.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...f-52063fd692a3

8. Paradise Island.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...0-2b596673f894

9. SapphireDreams.

Description: Cute. Decent Profile in terms of Bio. Doesn't come across as negative. I might have messaged her before, but I can't really remember. She's been on seeking for a good while.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...3-6229d1909d30

10. PrincessMarie.

Description: I talked about her before, but am curious if anyone has seen her or talked to her either recently or long ago.

Back when I met her, she was decent to talk to. But also seemed very business like in terms of "I do X for why amount".

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...7-ab21c0a3301c

[SaintMan3500]

Woman: Z.

Age: 31 Years old, has a kid.

Description: Been on seeking arrangements for over 5 years. Remember her profile, and know that that pic she has is years old and is the same one she's used since 2019.

Recently she changed her bio and mentioned she starts charging meet fees. Upon asking, she said her meet fee / paid meet & greet was $300. Wonderful lmao.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...b-c2c946941f45

Not a Good picture. Mediocre bio. Bad communication. Either she's overinflating her value, she's a moron, or she's throwing out bigger numbers because she gets the ick. Either way, what a clown LOL. I remember having a few convos with her on seeking throughout the years, and she's always been shitty at communication.

[jobobtheclown]

Met her a few months ago. Here is what I've noticed from my meeting with her.

-She is 100% real. I thought she was some fake profile or dude using a random womans pics. Esp since I'd see her location be put to somewhere like romania. But she is real. Even if the online or text communication can be eh.

-Her PPM ask was basically in the average range. Nothing super high, but obviously not low either.

-She is decent in terms of talking IRL. As in, you can have decent conversations with her, or talk about many subjects. Open Minded, non judgmental.

-I got the impression she is very picky, and she is looking for "that guy". Always the possibility that even if you thought you guys were cool, she may move forward with someone else or stop responding.

-Didn't demand anything in terms of paid meet and greets

I didn't move forward at the time due to IRL stuff / complications, but my suggestion would be to set something up asap in terms of a public meet up and/or talk about business early on. Sometimes with women that barely respond to me, I discuss the financial aspect (outside SA) and that entices them more to respond and likely meet.

So after my last post, she eventually got back to me and rescheduled again to several days later. Several hours before our reservations, and not having discussed anything about money because it was just a meet and greet, she said she wants $500-700 PPM. Could have been just her deciding to nope out and doing so with a high fictional number (I suspect a lot of the "$2 k per meet" complaints on here are actually the girl getting the ick), but it definitely wasn't a fit; I politely declined. I do alright in the $250-400 range still.

[SaintMan3500]

Scheduled a meet for dinner a week ago while BFun was out of town, checked in over the week, moved the reservation at her request yesterday, talked to confirm earlier today. Ghosted. Not sure what's up, but suspect a drug problem; there was no attempt to get money.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...9-ab1ba55c77b8

Met her a few months ago. Here is what I've noticed from my meeting with her.

-She is 100% real. I thought she was some fake profile or dude using a random womans pics. Esp since I'd see her location be put to somewhere like romania. But she is real. Even if the online or text communication can be eh.

-Her PPM ask was basically in the average range. Nothing super high, but obviously not low either.

-She is decent in terms of talking IRL. As in, you can have decent conversations with her, or talk about many subjects. Open Minded, non judgmental.

-I got the impression she is very picky, and she is looking for "that guy". Always the possibility that even if you thought you guys were cool, she may move forward with someone else or stop responding.

-Didn't demand anything in terms of paid meet and greets

I didn't move forward at the time due to IRL stuff / complications, but my suggestion would be to set something up asap in terms of a public meet up and/or talk about business early on. Sometimes with women that barely respond to me, I discuss the financial aspect (outside SA) and that entices them more to respond and likely meet.

[Member #6718]

And to top it off, she expects to be paid / given money in a public meet up.

Someone here can probably negotiate her PPM to much lower numbers and the paid M&G stuff. Whether it's worth doing that or not is a diff story LOL.

Yeah personally I don't negotiate with terrorists LOL.

[SaintMan3500]

A small number of super hot IG model types can command four figure PPM around here.

Super hot IG type in LA or DC could probably command a 2 k or more PPM.

That chick is bang f**king average, I'd be offering her 300 and laughing at any demand for more.

And to top it off, she expects to be paid / given money in a public meet up.

Someone here can probably negotiate her PPM to much lower numbers and the paid M&G stuff. Whether it's worth doing that or not is a diff story LOL.

[MmceStep]

Maria: Mid 20's. Joined seeking arrangements last month, but clearly has some experience if you talk to her. She's not bad to talk to, but she wanted $2,000 PER MEET! Said that a previous SD of hers did this with no trouble and she said she plans on sticking with this.

Personally that's the highest I've ever heard from talking to someone, but w / e. Someone here may have a good experience with her IRL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...2-d2ac267e698e

Someone's been reading the reddit SLR sub too much!

[YourCCPimp]

Maria: Mid 20's. Joined seeking arrangements last month, but clearly has some experience if you talk to her. She's not bad to talk to, but she wanted $2,000 PER MEET! Said that a previous SD of hers did this with no trouble and she said she plans on sticking with this.

Personally that's the highest I've ever heard from talking to someone, but w / e. Someone here may have a good experience with her IRL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...2-d2ac267e698e

That's some Heidi Fleiss kinda numbers.