Ripoff Reports

[StillNotMe]

I want to post about a sugar baby scam being ran by a waitress at a well know "mountain" themed sports bar in Indy. I have all of her info like phone numbers, name, Facebook, Only Fans, employer, lots of fun pics and videos. I want to make sure that none of you get screwed over like I did. But I am not sure how much detail I can provide in the post and not violate any of the page guidelines (and I wasn't sure how to directly message the Admin). I know not to post her last name or address (can I post the restaurant's name? Should I also cross post in the Sugar Daddy / Baby section? Any help is appreciated and then I will post. Thanks in advance.

I mean, you can always post a photo. If she is in her outfit, I don't see the harm in that. I'm guess we all know you are talking the restaurant of identical high points? First names are ok as well. I would even go as far as which location, north or south, you are referring too. As for location of the post, I would say it depends on where she advertises. Is she on an SB website? Put the link in the SB thread. Escort? Ad the link to the site. Doesn't advertise? UTR thread, my friend. Just my suggestions.

[Mo8888]

I want to post about a sugar baby scam being ran by a waitress at a well know "mountain" themed sports bar in Indy. I have all of her info like phone numbers, name, Facebook, Only Fans, employer, lots of fun pics and videos. I want to make sure that none of you get screwed over like I did. But I am not sure how much detail I can provide in the post and not violate any of the page guidelines (and I wasn't sure how to directly message the Admin). I know not to post her last name or address (can I post the restaurant's name? Should I also cross post in the Sugar Daddy / Baby section? Any help is appreciated and then I will post. Thanks in advance.

[AlwaysLookin33]

I would be interested in a conversation regarding the topic of the day in regards to street walkers. In short have guns been guns necessary? When where how why?

I don't have much experience with them, but the little I do have, I have never needed the gun. I always have it on me, but have never once felt the need to touch it. Most of them just want to make you nut so they can get their next fix and don't care about anything else.

[Indiguy]

It has been civilized and the differing opinions have been interesting. I guess my assumption that LE will be automatically involved if weapons are displayed is a bit off. If one party pulls on the other and the other party also pulls but somehow the situation deescalates with with no triggers being pulled then probably LE would not be involved. If shots do get fired LE will definitely be involved. Whether any of the parties involved would still be around when they show up is unlikely. Now if someone has been killed or wounded to the extent that can't leave the scene under their own power LE will have lots to investigate. And, while not making a specific allegation to anyone specific, it amazes me how many people think they know what will and will not happen in any given legal / criminal situation. Laws are written vaguely so they can be made to fit virtually any situation. In my mind no one can make a 100% claim they they "know" what will happen in any of the scenario's that have been discussed.

I would be interested in a conversation regarding the topic of the day in regards to street walkers. In short have guns been guns necessary? When where how why?

[Chelli4me]

It has been civilized and the differing opinions have been interesting. I guess my assumption that LE will be automatically involved if weapons are displayed is a bit off. If one party pulls on the other and the other party also pulls but somehow the situation deescalates with with no triggers being pulled then probably LE would not be involved. If shots do get fired LE will definitely be involved. Whether any of the parties involved would still be around when they show up is unlikely. Now if someone has been killed or wounded to the extent that can't leave the scene under their own power LE will have lots to investigate. And, while not making a specific allegation to anyone specific, it amazes me how many people think they know what will and will not happen in any given legal / criminal situation. Laws are written vaguely so they can be made to fit virtually any situation. In my mind no one can make a 100% claim they they "know" what will happen in any of the scenario's that have been discussed.

[AlwaysLookin33]

This is all very true. Like I said previously as well, I carry everywhere that I go in general for safety and security and definitely not to flash it around as well. Regarding the girl Bunnie in question that was put on the ripoff report. I myself am a big guy as well and have been told I can look intimidating at first glance. With that said, I saw her 2 weeks prior to the report and she was also on her phone a decent amount before we got started, so it makes me wonder if these girls give their handlers a yay or nay when it comes to whether they are going to rob someone or not, because I actually had a good session with her with no issues. At the same time like I said, these girls are going to go for ones that they think they can rob and get away with it. Not saying anyone who's had it happen may or may not be bigger in stature or look intimidating, but the odds of being a bigger and more defensive looking guys definitely helps. Like said here, I always carry with me even if I'm just going to the store which is purely for self defense instead of having to flash it around too.

I agree. I've seen to many posts about guys getting ripped off and others saying they have seen them without issue. I always have assumed its because they figured they could get away with it, from them being older, smaller, or whatever.

[GSpotGilligan]

However if LE gets involved, what you were doing there will absolutely be relevant to them. And yes I do agree with your very last statement. I haven't been armed in over 35 years. But I have been out twice recently looking to rearm myself precisely for the reason you state.

It's just such a shitty world and time these days. Not saying these girls haven't been ripping people off for awhile now, but overall it's just way worst these days. It's starting to get out of hand, and I know people say it's only a couple of hundred bucks, but for some anyways, you never know what kind of work they had to put in throughout the weeks for that couple of hundred bucks. We all do this hobby out of enjoyment, albeit is definitely an expensive hobby to have, so with that being said, I'll be damned if tons of these girls and their handlers think I'm going to just give up my hard earned money and just be okay with it. It takes just one time for any of these girls or their handlers to come face to face with a real situation when they try this type of shit for them to realize maybe we should just stop, but it rarely happens, and that's why you see the same girls pulling these scams or robbing people over and over again. Hell, we shouldn't really even have to carry out in about in public, but we all see how things have turned in the world these days.

[GSpotGilligan]

1 - its for self defense, not flashing it about so I'm not worried about it.

2 - Even if the cops know what you are there for, its a misdemeanor and so no other charges would be added on. That's if they even cared.

3 - I'm a big guy, add a gun to it and most other guys are going to back down unless they are armed too. If I have my gun out and see another gun, I am pulling the trigger right away. Don't care. If I really feel like I could be in trouble over it, I would toss the barrel and replace it with different. Its not like I am going to call the cops if I defend myself if I think there is a possibility I would be charged with murder.

I always have the gun with me and have never had a need to pull it. I also carry a number of other weapons on me Boy Scout.

This is all very true. Like I said previously as well, I carry everywhere that I go in general for safety and security and definitely not to flash it around as well. Regarding the girl Bunnie in question that was put on the ripoff report. I myself am a big guy as well and have been told I can look intimidating at first glance. With that said, I saw her 2 weeks prior to the report and she was also on her phone a decent amount before we got started, so it makes me wonder if these girls give their handlers a yay or nay when it comes to whether they are going to rob someone or not, because I actually had a good session with her with no issues. At the same time like I said, these girls are going to go for ones that they think they can rob and get away with it. Not saying anyone who's had it happen may or may not be bigger in stature or look intimidating, but the odds of being a bigger and more defensive looking guys definitely helps. Like said here, I always carry with me even if I'm just going to the store which is purely for self defense instead of having to flash it around too.

[Chelli4me]

So I completely understand what you're saying here, however, I have known guys who have been robbed, jumped, etc going into appointments or leaving appointments in which before or after the fact of whatever was done during the scheduled appointment is irrelevant. these days.

However if LE gets involved, what you were doing there will absolutely be relevant to them. And yes I do agree with your very last statement. I haven't been armed in over 35 years. But I have been out twice recently looking to rearm myself precisely for the reason you state.

[AlwaysLookin33]

I'd never take a gun to an appointment because getting ripped off for a few hundred isn't worth going to prison. When I go in I only take my keys and the money I'm willing to lose. No wallet, no jewelry, no ID. The best security is to pay after play. If she wants paid up front show her the money and have her take off her clothes before you give it. Of course don't ever talk cash for sex. If she won't take anything off before getting paid, leave.

1 - its for self defense, not flashing it about so I'm not worried about it.

2 - Even if the cops know what you are there for, its a misdemeanor and so no other charges would be added on. That's if they even cared.

3 - I'm a big guy, add a gun to it and most other guys are going to back down unless they are armed too. If I have my gun out and see another gun, I am pulling the trigger right away. Don't care. If I really feel like I could be in trouble over it, I would toss the barrel and replace it with different. Its not like I am going to call the cops if I defend myself if I think there is a possibility I would be charged with murder.

I always have the gun with me and have never had a need to pull it. I also carry a number of other weapons on me Boy Scout.

[GSpotGilligan]

I'd never take a gun to an appointment because getting ripped off for a few hundred isn't worth going to prison. When I go in I only take my keys and the money I'm willing to lose. No wallet, no jewelry, no ID. The best security is to pay after play. If she wants paid up front show her the money and have her take off her clothes before you give it. Of course don't ever talk cash for sex. If she won't take anything off before getting paid, leave.

So I completely understand what you're saying here, however, I have known guys who have been robbed, jumped, etc going into appointments or leaving appointments in which before or after the fact of whatever was done during the scheduled appointment is irrelevant. At that point, it's a matter of self defense. Being in the hobby long enough, I have heard some crazy stories of what some people have had to deal with regarding being robbed, which some consist of different things. Someone busting in and telling you to leave is a different ball game than you being robbed AFTER or BEFORE the appointment itself. To be perfectly honest with you at the same time, if you are actually armed at an appointment and one of these punk handlers / pimps tries and bust in and tells you to leave, if they know you are armed I guarantee you 95% of the time they don't want troubles. It's like anything else in life, they do that to the people who they think they can get away with it with the most. So I understand that some don't go armed to appointments because of certain reasons, at the same time it still depends on where my appointment is at, but not any different than me going armed carrying when I go to get groceries. It's the fact that in this day and age, people do dumb shit and have no common sense these days and maybe I would be in a situation where it would be 100% pointless for me to have to use it, however, MAYBE NOT. Like the saying goes, I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Unfortunately just the world we live in these days.

[Chelli4me]

I'd never take a gun to an appointment because getting ripped off for a few hundred isn't worth going to prison. When I go in I only take my keys and the money I'm willing to lose. No wallet, no jewelry, no ID. The best security is to pay after play..

I would assume if a weapon is taken to an appointment, the person taking it is fully prepared to use it and is knowingly accepting the risks and consequences. I could write paragraphs on some of the situations I've had to deal with. The bottom line, to me, is that I have never been harmed and I have never harmed anyone. For many years I had a second vehicle just to hobby in. A real jalopy. One that says "this guy is a broke sob. " One that I wouldn't even bother report being stolen if that had ever happened.

I don't know how it would play out legally if you pulled / used your weapon in self defense during an appointment gone wrong. Considering the parties involved, LE would know the truth of what you were there for no matter what you say. My guess is you would go to jail for that at least. Probably with other charges related to the weapon. Those may or may not be dismissed if the use of it was truly self defense. I would think some sort of charge relating to the use of a weapon while committing another crime might be in play. The dollars spent on an attorney and the time spent in court would be exhausting.

Like most things in life, there is no one size fits all solution your safety when making / keeping an appointment. All of us here are playing what can be a very dangerous game.

[Cooter Jones]

This is the way.

I'd never take a gun to an appointment because getting ripped off for a few hundred isn't worth going to prison. When I go in I only take my keys and the money I'm willing to lose. No wallet, no jewelry, no ID. The best security is to pay after play. If she wants paid up front show her the money and have her take off her clothes before you give it. Of course don't ever talk cash for sex. If she won't take anything off before getting paid, leave.

[Depauw2004]

I carry with me to every appointment that I go to. Don't care how any of the girls feel about it either.

This is the way.

[GSpotGilligan]

When she ran for the door, I would have had my pistol in my hand ready. Would assume someone else is coming in if she is running.

I carry with me to every appointment that I go to. Don't care how any of the girls feel about it either.