NoVA SugarBabies

[BuckNaked84]

No need to be a dick on here. It is supposed to be a place to help eachother out. You have no idea who I am or my financial situation but you choose to make an assumption and insult me. That is a fucking dick move on your part. I like to pick a spot that is easy for me to bail if need be, it has nothing to do with money. I also know that I am not alone in this approach as I have RTFF. If you choose something else and it works for you so be it and share your approach if you want to help the forum. No need to insult people in your response.

Wasn't trying to ne rude. Giving the newbie my opinion on how to be the most successful. Trust me, it works. Also letting the newbie know that smoking chicks exist at elite and LA. Hell I will probably visit Elite tomorrow, as two smoking girls that can't be ignored. Just saying.

[PRMan12]

Plenty of them will meet you for coffee. I have been stuck in the cat fish situation before and could not wait to pay the tab so I could GTFO. To each their own as I am just sharing what has worked for me which is the point of this forum in the first place.

Where do you take POTs for a meet and greet?

I take them to 1 of 3 local restaurants / bars depending on who I am meeting. Sushi, Irish bar, Italian casual. All under $100 ish. You can tell fairly quickly who is a good match, if not quick app, 1 drink and call it a night.

[TomFordModel]

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...9-34f53d64011e

DTF. Ask for 7 but will go to 6. She's too chunky for me. Just straight to hotel.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...b-ba1d1ae2e0c4

Porn chick as reported on here. Chatted with her a year ago in NYC but shoes in Fairfax this week. She's real.

300 hr.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...7-e45f6c9df615

Too fat for me but she's down for 3.

[TomFordModel]

Elizabeth.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...a-a1bf32d7f5b4

Rainbows reincarnated. Went to text, but couldn't close. Same MO. Not sure what I did wrong. Whatever. Good luck and may the gods be with you.

She's weird as fuck and seems like a freak- actually seem a bit thick. Gave me her snap and started sending vids of her fucking dildos etc.

[NovaNova]

I'll have to humbly disagree. I have a few go to spots, where I like to meet, feel these women out, and if over an $60-$80 dinner, its a no go, then move on. I usually get there early, so if its a complete catfish situation, you can bail, and just let the waitress know. Like I said I have a good system, but who really wants to meet at Starbucks??

Plenty of them will meet you for coffee. I have been stuck in the cat fish situation before and could not wait to pay the tab so I could GTFO. To each their own as I am just sharing what has worked for me which is the point of this forum in the first place.

Where do you take POTs for a meet and greet?

[NovaNova]

I have closed more Pun on a 150 tab than a one armed apple picker. Small price for me, but to each his own. If strapped for cash, Latin Angels or Elite has everything you need or could ever want, besides bare babies.

No need to be a dick on here. It is supposed to be a place to help eachother out. You have no idea who I am or my financial situation but you choose to make an assumption and insult me. That is a fucking dick move on your part. I like to pick a spot that is easy for me to bail if need be, it has nothing to do with money. I also know that I am not alone in this approach as I have RTFF. If you choose something else and it works for you so be it and share your approach if you want to help the forum. No need to insult people in your response.

[PRMan12]

1) Never, ever pay upfront. This includes prior to meeting them, as well as for a simple platonic M&G. Don't know why guys think that's a great idea in any way. For anyone claiming it worked for them, feel free to refute & share who you've charmed in such a way. But the chances are incredibly minuscule that this approach pans out. Most women on Seeking are out to do the bare minimum whilst maximizing the benjamins they can draw out of johns. So if anyone engages in the aforementioned nonsense then acts surprised when their girl cash-and-dashes or makes up an excuse as to why the arrangement won't work, then with all disrespect, said person deserves to be parted with their money.

2) You can't seriously be asking for guidance when you've supposedly got the game down already. The way it works here is a user shares, then others share in kind (be it in the forum at large, or in private messages). If a SB that I engage with isn't worth the headache (be it her ghosting, running a scam, or asking some ridiculous PPM / allowance), I share with everyone. And if I've met them personally and it's not worth the time or money, or if I'm simply through with them (like in the case with ObscureFifi in the Baltimore forums), I again share with everyone. That's how these forums have always operated.

Bottom line: share your experiences of the ones you're finished with & don't plan on seeing again. If you plan to see any of them in the future, by all means keep those close to the chest. No one here would fault you for that. I myself used to have a few college-aged regulars who were a fantastic time that I never shared (two in particular who's only ask was a bite to eat, a hotel room, and junior to play with). But if you're just going to offer a not-so-humble brag about your conquests without anything of substance for us to work with, then how can you expect others to share with you? Sorry, but that's not how this works. As you pointed out earlier, you're a self-professed "newbie. " You have to earn credibility, give before receiving. Just saying, man.

Bro, not trying to be argumentative at all and I appreciate your lengthy response; but I thought I had a decent post not too long ago, and just trying to get the board active again, thanks for your post on the Baltimore girl, that was a good contribution.

[PRMan12]

I will sometimes voluntarily send something up front, for a couple of reasons:

1) I'm trying to get some real world info to verify she's for real. While my Venmo and CashApp are set up to not reveal my real name, other people aren't so shrewd. I view it as an insurance policy and one I am willing to pay.

2) We had plans (tentative or solid) and I broke them close to our planned meet. I don't think it is fair to her and I want to keep the lines of communication open for the future. Also, karma.

Appreciate the honestly, and that's why I asked the question, just wondering aside from all the "reasons" they want upfront; if it has ever worked out for someone. I will probably never know as there are plenty real that won't ask or can be convinced that it won't happen with me if they do. I understand he never, but was curious if there were exceptions.

Over and out.

[BuckNaked84]

Elizabeth.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...a-a1bf32d7f5b4

Rainbows reincarnated. Went to text, but couldn't close. Same MO. Not sure what I did wrong. Whatever. Good luck and may the gods be with you.

[PRMan12]

Yeah, we are still waiting on those 10 reports you wanted to post.

Read my previous posts, sensing a little animosity, which will just make me post little; genuinely trying to get more out of the board. The more that share, the more will share. And just met with 2 more since last post and 3 more in the next 5 lined up.

Not all have led to FC, bailed on 1, 2 met and wasn't into, sent home with hugs; 2 wanted 2nd date, one which we had and was great, the other planned for later this week.

One was not good but FC anyway, should have bailed. Its about the adventure. And no one on the DC board cares about fla. All good my man.

[BuckNaked84]

Thanks so much, Rudy. It's tough man. Some of these seeking girls are so damn hot. I've met some 8's and 9's for sure but can't seem to get out of my own head and pull the trigger. I'm 42 years old, been married 15 years and haven't had sex with my wife more than 50 times in all those years. There is only so much you can do on your own or visit only so many massage parlors for a handy. I'm scared as hell to bring some disease home. Maybe I don't know enough about communicable or blood borne diseases which is making me more nervous than I should be. Even with the use of condoms. Some of the girls I've met actually say they prefer exclusive arrangements and are asking for anywhere between $400 - $800 PPM or $2,500 - a whopping $7,000 for an exclusive monthly arrangement!! Who knows if they are saying the same to multiple SDs. I don't have time to date in the traditional sense or go on Tinder, Bumble or the other umpteen dating sites. I really appreciate your being so candid and wish you all the best.

Clarification. Always negotiate PPM via text. Have literally never left a restaurant and not headed to a hotel same date, save 1. And second date and after we're all in a hotel.

[PRMan12]

Everyone has already said this, but no never give any money upfront. Never pay for a meet and greet before after during or ever.

I have also learned to never agree to a first date at a restaurant. It is extra money that does not need to be spent and takes too long if you need to leave for some reason (cat fished, BSC baby, etc.). Coffee shops are fine for a first meet, do not cost much, and typically you pay for the coffee when you order so no waiting around to pay the waiter if you need to leave. There are stories on here of SB's getting expensive meals out of SD's with no intention of going to the FC and SD's being catfished and stuck in a restaurant for an hour or longer with a fugly chick.

A middleaged single female coworker and I were discussing online dating recently and she told me that some of her single friends just go on the vanilla sites to get expensive meals out of guys with no intention of actually dating. This happens everywhere so always meet somewhere inexpensive and easy to leave.

I'll have to humbly disagree. I have a few go to spots, where I like to meet, feel these women out, and if over an $60-$80 dinner, its a no go, then move on. I usually get there early, so if its a complete catfish situation, you can bail, and just let the waitress know. Like I said I have a good system, but who really wants to meet at Starbucks??

[BuckNaked84]

Everyone has already said this, but no never give any money upfront. Never pay for a meet and greet before after during or ever.

I have also learned to never agree to a first date at a restaurant. It is extra money that does not need to be spent and takes too long if you need to leave for some reason (cat fished, BSC baby, etc.). Coffee shops are fine for a first meet, do not cost much, and typically you pay for the coffee when you order so no waiting around to pay the waiter if you need to leave. There are stories on here of SB's getting expensive meals out of SD's with no intention of going to the FC and SD's being catfished and stuck in a restaurant for an hour or longer with a fugly chick.

A middleaged single female coworker and I were discussing online dating recently and she told me that some of her single friends just go on the vanilla sites to get expensive meals out of guys with no intention of actually dating. This happens everywhere so always meet somewhere inexpensive and easy to leave.

I have closed more Pun on a 150 tab than a one armed apple picker. Small price for me, but to each his own. If strapped for cash, Latin Angels or Elite has everything you need or could ever want, besides bare babies.

[NovaNova]

She is real and has a kid wants $$ upfront, which I do not do.

Question for the board, has anyone done $ upfront for anything and it was not a scam?? Whether it be gas $ or something upfront? Just curious if I have missed on a few, because of my no $ upfront policy, in fact do not use any electronic forms of $.

Everyone has already said this, but no never give any money upfront. Never pay for a meet and greet before after during or ever.

I have also learned to never agree to a first date at a restaurant. It is extra money that does not need to be spent and takes too long if you need to leave for some reason (cat fished, BSC baby, etc.). Coffee shops are fine for a first meet, do not cost much, and typically you pay for the coffee when you order so no waiting around to pay the waiter if you need to leave. There are stories on here of SB's getting expensive meals out of SD's with no intention of going to the FC and SD's being catfished and stuck in a restaurant for an hour or longer with a fugly chick.

A middleaged single female coworker and I were discussing online dating recently and she told me that some of her single friends just go on the vanilla sites to get expensive meals out of guys with no intention of actually dating. This happens everywhere so always meet somewhere inexpensive and easy to leave.

[PRMan12]

She is likely real, as we chatted, but not my type. Have fun.

I met her a couple times too. She is fun, real, and lots of fun a little thick but a good time. LOL, to the other posters. I'll keep my future sb's to myself.