Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[D Nut]

Such a tragic event in her life that she couldn't remember exactly when it happened.

Stated numerous times the last being with Anderson Cooper that it wasn't rape so what is it then?

Carroll argued that her alleged rape wasn't a big deal because it happens to other people, she's also saying that it wasn't really a rape because it didn't last long and it wasn't even sexual. What?

On 9 May the jury in the civil case returned a verdict that Mr Trump was liable for sexually abusing Ms Carroll, but not raping her.

Nobody and I do mean nobody should get away with rape however. 30 years past before this lady comes forward and can't recount the exact date / time but totally remembers the details of shopping, the color of the clothing, there wasn't a store clerk anywhere. Etc. Sorry but I don't buy it. She saw dollar signs and waited her time to bring it forward almost as if it had something to do with an upcoming election. Again.

Not a Trump supporter. Just a person that pays attention.

A lot of survivors of traumatic experiences don't remember the exact dates. But it's a good thing she told one of her friends what happened right after it happened and she was able to supply that detail during her time on the witness stand.

Were you paying attention to that testimony?

Donald Trump is a career criminal. He described his modus operandi in the Access Hollywood tape, which matches her description of her experience.

He stole charity money for children with cancer and disabled veterans. He cheated people who did work for him. He faked financial forms to pay less taxes.

[CautiousTed]

Such a tragic event in her life that she couldn't remember exactly when it happened.

Stated numerous times the last being with Anderson Cooper that it wasn't rape so what is it then?

Carroll argued that her alleged rape wasn't a big deal because it happens to other people, she's also saying that it wasn't really a rape because it didn't last long and it wasn't even sexual. What?

On 9 May the jury in the civil case returned a verdict that Mr Trump was liable for sexually abusing Ms Carroll, but not raping her.

Nobody and I do mean nobody should get away with rape however. 30 years past before this lady comes forward and can't recount the exact date / time but totally remembers the details of shopping, the color of the clothing, there wasn't a store clerk anywhere. Etc. Sorry but I don't buy it. She saw dollar signs and waited her time to bring it forward almost as if it had something to do with an upcoming election. Again.

Not a Trump supporter. Just a person that pays attention.

Are you going to tell your sister that she wasn't raped, because her attacker was held liable "only in a civil lawsuit". Is that really where your moral compass points? It's not really a crime if, "it's only a civil lawsuit". BTW, the judge was clear in his instructions to the jury in his second trial against E. Hean Carroll; Trump raped her, and he used that word, "rape".

Trump is a career criminal who has used his wealth to insulate himself from repercussions of his actions.

"it's only a civil trial" is such a weak justification to defend a career criminal.

[D Nut]

As far as I know, Trump has never been convicted of the crimes you mention. I believe these were all civil lawsuits where he had judgements issued against him. These are not criminal convictions. Just my 2 cents.

Are you going to tell your sister that she wasn't raped, because her attacker was held liable "only in a civil lawsuit". Is that really where your moral compass points? It's not really a crime if, "it's only a civil lawsuit". BTW, the judge was clear in his instructions to the jury in his second trial against E. Hean Carroll; Trump raped her, and he used that word, "rape".

Trump is a career criminal who has used his wealth to insulate himself from repercussions of his actions.

"it's only a civil trial" is such a weak justification to defend a career criminal.

[Cartog]

Trump is a career criminal. Convicted of sex assault, theft of charity monies that was supposed to go to children with cancer and disabled veterans, and financial fraud. So you are correct. He is not one of them.

As far as I know, Trump has never been convicted of the crimes you mention. I believe these were all civil lawsuits where he had judgements issued against him. These are not criminal convictions. Just my 2 cents.

[CarpetBagger]

No point arguing further about this. If you're comfortable answering all questions, that's cool. As somebody who occasionally engages in illegal activities (like the one everybody on this forum does), I personally will continue doing what I have done successfully for many years with zero negative repercussions, I. E. Not volunteer information unnecessarily to cops on fishing expeditions.

While always polite, I cannot imagine why anyone would ever answer any questions from a cop. Cops passed a civil service test, they're not detectives for a reason. Patrol cops reply 99.5% of self-incrimination, because most criminals are even less clever than a cop.

I forget their handle, but there's a couple of hilarious lawyers (Chicago? Maybe Philly accent?) that constantly give advice, and every traffic stop advice video they do is basically; after you've politely provided license and registration. Shut the fuck up. They say it like 8 times in each video, they're great.

Anywho. I'm not one to tell anybody else what to do, I don't pretend to know what's best for other people. But a big smile and "I don't answer questions" is the end of my cop convos.

[D Nut]

Breaking the "Thou shall not steal" (theft of charity money), "Thou shall not bear false witness" (defamation), "Thou shall not commit adultery" (cheated on his first wife with who would be his second wife, then cheated on her with who would be his third wife, and then cheated on her with a porn star), "thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife (E. Jean Carroll was married when Trump sexually assaulted her) are very much anti-Christian.

What did Jesus say about paying taxes? "Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's. ". So in other words, pay your taxes. Falsifying financial records to cheat on taxes, is also anti-Christian.

Sounds to me like you did a good job describing Biden You did leave out snifing ladies an young girls hair.

As far as an, "I know you are but what am I" style of rebuttal / deflection, that was pretty weak. The comparison between the two isn't even close. Do better, HB.

[SteveTimder]

Out of 300 million legal Americans, can we please have better options to choose from?

[Hillbilly Bob]

Breaking the "Thou shall not steal" (theft of charity money), "Thou shall not bear false witness" (defamation), "Thou shall not commit adultery" (cheated on his first wife with who would be his second wife, then cheated on her with who would be his third wife, and then cheated on her with a porn star), "thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife (E. Jean Carroll was married when Trump sexually assaulted her) are very much anti-Christian.

What did Jesus say about paying taxes? "Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's. ". So in other words, pay your taxes. Falsifying financial records to cheat on taxes, is also anti-Christian.

Sounds to me like you did a good job describing Biden You did leave out snifing ladies an young girls hair.

[D Nut]

Being impeached by democrats (which means nothing) yet acquitted. Indicted but not convicted and besides ridiculously transparent politically motivated. No evidence of anti-Christian beliefs. Never accused legally of insurrection. Thief? So this is your is your case to instead vote for a decades long corrupt, liar, political criminal who is also clearly suffering from dementia? That's your rationale for voting for Biden over Trump? Biden clearly has no intelligence, morals, values and clearly no common sense because he can't remember what he did yesterday. This is an easy one. Except if you are a moron.

Breaking the "Thou shall not steal" (theft of charity money), "Thou shall not bear false witness" (defamation), "Thou shall not commit adultery" (cheated on his first wife with who would be his second wife, then cheated on her with who would be his third wife, and then cheated on her with a porn star), "thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife (E. Jean Carroll was married when Trump sexually assaulted her) are very much anti-Christian.

What did Jesus say about paying taxes? "Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's. ". So in other words, pay your taxes. Falsifying financial records to cheat on taxes, is also anti-Christian.

[Hooter12]

Is this,

The election is a binary CHOICE between a twice impeached, four time indicted criminal who is an anti-Christian thief and conman who insurrected his own government.

And a person who is none.

In the world of intelligence, morals, values, and common sense, this is an easy one.

Except if you are IN the cult.

Jim Jones, reduct.

Being impeached by democrats (which means nothing) yet acquitted. Indicted but not convicted and besides ridiculously transparent politically motivated. No evidence of anti-Christian beliefs. Never accused legally of insurrection. Thief? So this is your is your case to instead vote for a decades long corrupt, liar, political criminal who is also clearly suffering from dementia? That's your rationale for voting for Biden over Trump? Biden clearly has no intelligence, morals, values and clearly no common sense because he can't remember what he did yesterday. This is an easy one. Except if you are a moron.

[BengalMan]

Is this,

The election is a binary CHOICE between a twice impeached, four time indicted criminal who is an anti-Christian thief and conman who insurrected his own government.

And a person who is none.

In the world of intelligence, morals, values, and common sense, this is an easy one.

Except if you are IN the cult.

Jim Jones, reduct.

[Admin2]

One question. Why are they so hell bent on keeping Trump out. They never went after anybody like they are him. Maybe he is not one of them.

I assume you mean Democrats. They are hell bent on keeping any Republican from office. If you mean some global conspiracy to keep him out, I don't think there is one. I think he lost the election in 2020 legitimately but Trump has never ever publicly admitted failure of any kind so instead of conceding he started ranting about being robbed.

If you mean his opponents on the right that's part of the game. Trump is just really good at calling it a personal conspiracy against him and some of his followers believe it.

Look, I know there are a lot of people that don't agree with me. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I don't agree. I think voter fraud in the US has mostly been invented by the right to make excuses for suppressing the vote for poor people. It's something the ACLU (yes I know, it's part of the worldwide conspiracy to disenfranchise white people) works really hard to stop. I know for a fact in Texas (because I used to live there) they closed all the DMV regional offices in predominantly poor democratic counties forcing people to have to drive hundreds of miles to get an I'd in order to reduce those counties effectiveness in elections.

This is one of the many issues that pushed my decision to leave the land of my birth and live elsewhere.

I want to say this again, I'm neither red nor blue. I admit my feelings and politics are progressive but the straw that broke the camels back for me about living in the US was when Obama signed the NDAA of 2011 (I think) that made rendition of American Citizens legal. That was it for me. I was gone that year and never came back.

A2.

[Admin2]

Three City Empire. If youre interested. True or Not - Something to think about.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/26566406/The-3-City-States
https://www.sinhalanet.net/three-cor...d-vatican-city
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...teB5YMj6_kDtSY

"The aforementioned city-states listed above are sovereign, corporate entities not connected to the nations they appear to be part of. In other words, the City of London (that is the square mile within Greater London) is not technically part of Greater London or England, just as Vatican City is not part of Rome or Italy. Likewise, Washington DC is not part of the United States that it controls. ".

While it's true that Vatican City is a sovereign country that is a city state like Monaco and Singapore the square mile you are talking about in London is part of England and DC is part of the US, it's not a state but it is part of the US.

As far as finance I think NYC controls more capital than London does. Obviously not the city of NY but the firms that are there. The two largest stock exchanges in the world (NYSE and Nasdaq) are in NYC.

[D Nut]

One question. Why are they so hell bent on keeping Trump out. They never went after anybody like they are him. Maybe he is not one of them.

Trump is a career criminal. Convicted of sex assault, theft of charity monies that was supposed to go to children with cancer and disabled veterans, and financial fraud. So you are correct. He is not one of them.

[ROB1001]

One question. Why are they so hell bent on keeping Trump out. They never went after anybody like they are him. Maybe he is not one of them.

I'm going to drop this here for all your red / blue guys.

""Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations that've long since bought and paid for, the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pocket, and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and the information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. " -George Carlin.

I was in Bulgaria in a taxi going to Bucharest to catch a flight. I mentioned to the taxi driver how as a person who grew up during the cold war how strange it felt to me to be in Bulgaria because it was behind the Iron Curtain. His response surprised me, he told me that he missed Communism and wished the Soviet Union hadn't fallen. I told him I was surprised because he owned his taxi and asked if capitalism hadn't allowed him to be his own boss and he said "communism, capitalism, both are shit. I don't own this car the bank does. I liked Communism better because then it was us against them, now they make us fight each other and nobody sees that the same people still run everything and take everything. ".

I never looked at American Politics the same way again. Biden doesn't give a fuck about a single one of you guys and neither does Trump, neither does a single member of the Senate nor the House. They look after the people who keep them in office full fucking stop, you are a bug to them. Look at how much shittier it is living there since the 80's when news outlets figured out that the money is in the divide not the news.

I feel bad for all of you because you don't understand that it's a rigged game and the only real smart move is to pack up, get out, and stop playing.

A2.