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[Mattis1775]

Why are you saying "she" when the ad clearly states it's a male?

By Appointment Only****Monday through Saturday (Im a male and I dont do massages ! I am Wax Professional only !!!)

Sorry, wrong link.

https://bodywaxingbykelly.com/

[FlynNY56]

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bt...742905304.html

She's been around for a long time and was doing men waxing way before a lot of these spas even offered it. Her business started in Malden and moved towards Woburn where she stopped seeing clients for awhile due to COVID. She has a strong personality and constantly reminds you that she has a "wife" and the whole conversation during the session is about her "wife". OK, I get it that you don't offer extras and she reminds the readers in both her website and in her ad.

As far as service, amazing! Clean and quick. Before you know it, you're cleaned up and out the door. She recently started posting again post COVID. The old Winthrop lady (now Revere) is unreliable now, considering also that she doesn't provide the finale anymore. She's a bit far in Woburn. Maybe not far for most of you. But a pain for me. I may consider Cida in Everett as she offers waxing service.

Until then, enjoy the weather.

Why are you saying "she" when the ad clearly states it's a male?

By Appointment Only****Monday through Saturday (I’m a male and I don’t do massages ! I am Wax Professional only !!!)

[Mattis1775]

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bt...742905304.html

She's been around for a long time and was doing men waxing way before a lot of these spas even offered it. Her business started in Malden and moved towards Woburn where she stopped seeing clients for awhile due to COVID. She has a strong personality and constantly reminds you that she has a "wife" and the whole conversation during the session is about her "wife". OK, I get it that you don't offer extras and she reminds the readers in both her website and in her ad.

As far as service, amazing! Clean and quick. Before you know it, you're cleaned up and out the door. She recently started posting again post COVID. The old Winthrop lady (now Revere) is unreliable now, considering also that she doesn't provide the finale anymore. She's a bit far in Woburn. Maybe not far for most of you. But a pain for me. I may consider Cida in Everett as she offers waxing service.

Until then, enjoy the weather.

[Corrado58]

I heard a statistic / trend on Bill Maher, that under 40 yr. Olds are earning 49% more than during pre pandemic. Supports the concept of younger mongers having money to support and gladly give up $300+ meets on STG, $500-1,000 on SA. Moreover, young men will seek out the hot bodies who know their sexual market value. Both mongerer and provider are inexperienced in anything other than mechanical, transactional QVs. This makes sense to me albeit generalized.

[DownWind]

Tracker Detect is a free app for Androids that will find IPhone air pods. You have it scan and it quickly detects the air pod. Two drawbacks, you have to wait 10 minutes before it will cause the trackers to chirp. That can be maddening when your off route, but it works. Quite surprising to know the little women is suspicious, it can be a life saver. The other problem is the trackers in cars going by you will also register. You have to wait the 10 minutes but it is always a relief to find its a false alarm.

[SalamanderFour]

Yes, it's easy: you open the "Find My" app, open "Items" and click "Add item". The phone will scan for nearby AirTags.

So it looks like iphones have a method built-in to find air tags. For Android phones, I tried out iTag and AirGuard, both were free.

ITag. It scans for everything that is putting out a bluetooth low energy proximity signal, identifying them with a makers code. You then do an internet search for the code, to see what kind of device it is. Then you can name them, so you know they are "out of play. " For me, it found two devices nearby, and looking them up I found that they were the garage door opener, and the home heating / thermostat system (wireless thermostats). Summary. It didn't find as many devices as AirGuard did, gave me less info about them, and the devices it found were irrelevant.

AirGuard. Does a more detailed search, only looking for Airpods, Airtags, Apple devices, Chipolo, FindMy devices, SmartTags, and Tiles. You can limit what it looks for. It reports if the devices appear to be constantly with you, i.e. Following you, and what devices are simply in your area. It also tries to show where the devices are located, and device info, but neither of these are very good. For me, it found 0 trackers, and 4 other devices, identifying the devices by their purpose; a Tile, two Apple devices, and a FindMy Device. Summary. AirGuard is better at finding trackers, and getting info about what it finds in your area.

[JmSuttr]

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help..

If you take every possible precaution, but refrain from mongering unless and until you have a 99.99% sure opportunity (which will probably pop up at random), at some point your wife might (emphasis on might) become less vigilant. But only you will know if that ever happens, and only you will know what circumstances could push her back into hyper-vigilant mode again.

Also, with all due respect to those who offered advice for defeating specific tracking measures, like AirTags, my overarching point is that you'll never be able to predict with absolute certainty what your wife might do. For (just one) example, instead of hiring an expensive PI, maybe she asks a friend or family member to do some snooping? She doesn't need a professional dossier, she just needs confirmation of her suspicions. And, as I'm sure you know, the threshold for a third strike is probably pretty low. Suspicious wives don't require the standard of proof that would be needed in other circumstances. A near-miss, or a combination of several near-misses, is often enough to tip the scales.

The unfortunate truth is that there's no good answer to your predicament. You and your wife are fundamentally incompatible, at least when it comes to your sex lives. If that can't be changed, then the ongoing stress (for both of you) will continue. Over time your complicated and entangled situation could become more so, less so, or stay the same. If divorce or separation is never going to be in the realm of possibility, then all you can do is figure out how best to resign yourself to the reality of your situation. If divorce or separation does look like it will eventually happen, then your best recourse is to figure out how to get ahead of it and manage things such that your life, and that of your family, isn't totally wrecked.

Again, good luck!

[JClearMan1]

Ammpro, if you are worried that your wife put an air tag in your car, you should be able to locate the signal with your own iphone. I'm not familiar with Apple products, but I think you can change the settings to get a signal, and the air tag should come up as an unrecognized device. For Android phones, there's an app Tracker Detector. I've not used it, but I'm going to start trying it out.

Yes, it's easy: you open the "Find My" app, open "Items" and click "Add item". The phone will scan for nearby AirTags.

[JClearMan1]

Looking for help, suggestions, I asked this question a cpl of years ago and never found anything that worked, hoping technology has improved or someone else has an idea. I've been mongering for 30 years, married 28, my wife has caught me twice and has stayed with me contingent on me going to counseling, us together going, and her having open access to my phone as well as being tracked through my phone by her, many will ask " why would you put up with that BS?" , well, many, many reasons including children but most importantly money, insurance, its very complicated. Anyway,

On my days off I'd like to visit an AMP, I can't leave my phone at home because she randomly texts throughout the morning and day, " how are you?" what are you doing? If I don't respond within a reasonable amount of time, she'll know I just left my phone at home. If I take my phone with me, " why were you at _ in Salem ma for 1 hour?" ect, ect. If I turn off my location, I get " why is your location off?

My question, is there any kind of APP that I can leave my phone at home but have the # on a second phone for responding to texts but would show my location as home? Or any other Idea's?

My thing is really AMPs as I love the Asians, I've had prostitutes over to the house on days off that way my location is good but then I'm opening myself up to a whole other level of danger.

Any help is greatly appreciated, PM is fine as well. Thank you!

AMP.

I have the same situation going on, but I've figured out how to get around it completely foolproof: if you have an iPhone and an iPad (or like me, two iPhones: personal and work), you can go into "Find My" on the device you're going to leave at home, turn on "Find My iPhone" and then select "Share my location from this device". Then, on the device you take with you, you disable "Find my iPhone" entirely. Since your location is shared via your Apple ID, only one device can be representative of where you are. This way, you could be mid thrust and reply to a text. I literally have.

[SalamanderFour]

Ammpro, if you are worried that your wife put an air tag in your car, you should be able to locate the signal with your own iphone. I'm not familiar with Apple products, but I think you can change the settings to get a signal, and the air tag should come up as an unrecognized device. For Android phones, there's an app Tracker Detector. I've not used it, but I'm going to start trying it out.

[KashkaiBoy]

This sounds right to me. This might not be helpful but I'd suggest first trying to open up to your wife honestly about your sexual needs. If you and she are not clicking, she deserves you to be as honest as you can about it. I know of a few friends who have had the conversation with spouses which led to an understanding that occasional non-emotionally connected extramural sexual activity, with protections, could be acceptable (in a don't ask / don't tell way). If both sides can get on the same page about what is valuable about the marriage -- which could be parenting together, financial reasons, affection, support, etc. -- sex might not have to be the measure of commitment. But that won't work in every situation, and if for your wife monogamy is an absolute must, then either you need to figure out how to stay away from AMPs or you need to end the marriage and deal with the consequences. I'm sure I don't need to tell you, living the life of a liar is really shitty and takes a toll on you. And you seem like a good guy, I'm sure you can understand why your wife is acting the way she does.

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help.

AMP.

[MajorJohnson]

What about saying your back is sore and you need a massage? Not sure how much she knows but I believe in hiding in plane sight. If you tell her you are trying a massage place because some random guy told you that woman does a good massage and it really helped his back. If she's cool with the idea that opens up a ton of possibilities. Good luck.

My buddy told his wife that the guy he sees does a good job, and it's actually a girl who does a great job "plus".

[Woody32]

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help.

AMP.

What about saying your back is sore and you need a massage? Not sure how much she knows but I believe in hiding in plane sight. If you tell her you are trying a massage place because some random guy told you that woman does a good massage and it really helped his back. If she's cool with the idea that opens up a ton of possibilities. Good luck.

[Amppro95]

If you're under the level of scrutiny you describe, it would be prudent to assume that the techniques and tactics your wife is currently using will (at some point) change, evolve, and adapt, in unexpected ways.

For example, you could get everything well-sorted as far as your phone is concerned, and she could unexpectedly hide an Air Tag, or similar tracker, in your car or in some other thing you might not suspect.

Since you're in an especially dicey position, as a third strike is likely to be your last, my main point is that you can't ever afford to let your guard down and need to always be thinking ahead. Even with that, the risk-reward ratio is rather precarious. I certainly understand your urges, but your situation definitely calls for thinking about what could happen in a worst-case scenario. Good luck!

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help.

AMP.

[JmSuttr]

Looking for help, suggestions, I asked this question a cpl of years ago and never found anything that worked, hoping technology has improved or someone else has an idea. I've been mongering for 30 years, married 28, my wife has caught me twice and has stayed with me contingent on me going to counseling, us together going, and her having open access to my phone as well as being tracked through my phone by her, many will ask " why would you put up with that BS?" , well, many, many reasons including children but most importantly money, insurance, its very complicated. Anyway,

On my days off I'd like to visit an AMP, I can't leave my phone at home because she randomly texts throughout the morning and day, " how are you?" what are you doing? If I don't respond within a reasonable amount of time, she'll know I just left my phone at home. If I take my phone with me, " why were you at _ in Salem ma for 1 hour?" ect, ect. If I turn off my location, I get " why is your location off?

My question, is there any kind of APP that I can leave my phone at home but have the # on a second phone for responding to texts but would show my location as home? Or any other Idea's?

My thing is really AMPs as I love the Asians, I've had prostitutes over to the house on days off that way my location is good but then I'm opening myself up to a whole other level of danger.

Any help is greatly appreciated, PM is fine as well. Thank you!

AMP.

If you're under the level of scrutiny you describe, it would be prudent to assume that the techniques and tactics your wife is currently using will (at some point) change, evolve, and adapt, in unexpected ways.

For example, you could get everything well-sorted as far as your phone is concerned, and she could unexpectedly hide an Air Tag, or similar tracker, in your car or in some other thing you might not suspect.

Since you're in an especially dicey position, as a third strike is likely to be your last, my main point is that you can't ever afford to let your guard down and need to always be thinking ahead. Even with that, the risk-reward ratio is rather precarious. I certainly understand your urges, but your situation definitely calls for thinking about what could happen in a worst-case scenario. Good luck!