Sugar Daddy Sites

[Lexx1]

"If you think you're exclusive 100% with a baby from any sugar site then you are lying to yourself. ".

This clearly is saying that you know everything about every other guy's arrangement. You know nothing about me, you know nothing about the women I've seen. Provably false statement.

Name calling. Wow. I graduated junior high many decades ago.

I have offered an opinion earlier, the guys here who whine about simps, and complain about their treatment by seeking, and make categorical statements are those who haven't got any good relationship IRL. You guys judge who's who.

I said I was done with this. Sounds like you're in high school saying that I'm name calling. I wasn't. Just stating the obvious.

Keep up the good work with your exclusive babies! lol

[FarFarAway]

Everyone, men and women, who is playing the arrangement game, needs to be able to keep themselves safe. From crime, from violence, from unwanted disclosure, from extortion. I don't begrudge a girl from having her own alter ego. I have a sugar story too, and name, and all that. Call it my op-sec. I expect no less from others I come into contact with, though I must say, some are pretty cavalier about this, and it is quite easy to find out a lot of personal information about them. There is no utility of that when everything is OK. However, some of these girls are bat-shit crazy and will threaten. It is good to have info to balance the scales.

Read the op-sec thread for Richmond, I related a story there. Because my op-sec / sugar story is iron-clad, there wasn't much she could really do to me. The way it should be. And I don't do anything crazy like go bare and assume the girl is telling the truth about being on BC. I guess once a month, on one sugar thread or another, you read a girl is telling a daddy he knocked her up and she needs $ to take care of it.

All that doesn't mean you can lie to someone about your bedroom routine, or your history w / STDs (which I prove, and demand reciprocation). They aren't the same.

Why is google voice free? It is essential to my op-sec. I am glad it is, but.

[FarFarAway]

"If you think you're exclusive 100% with a baby from any sugar site then you are lying to yourself. ".

This clearly is saying that you know everything about every other guy's arrangement. You know nothing about me, you know nothing about the women I've seen. Provably false statement.

Name calling. Wow. I graduated junior high many decades ago.

I have offered an opinion earlier, the guys here who whine about simps, and complain about their treatment by seeking, and make categorical statements are those who haven't got any good relationship IRL. You guys judge who's who.

Never said I knew everything. You seem to think you know everything about the babies you see. If you think about it I'm actually saying I don't know everything. Especially with a baby and what she's doing when I'm not tapping that ass. I don't worry about it. That's her life. And I live mine after the fun. We go our separate ways until the next meetup. Experiences not only in the P4 P world and also real life having a real gf have taught me everything is not always as it seems. Sure you pay for love but it's in an indirect way. Courting a woman, dinners, gifts, movies, flowers, etc. It's not the same though as paying directly for pussy.

Feel free to respond because you probably will. But I've said what I said and done with this subject. No sympathy needed at all.

[Murrican]

Great analogy. Guys think they know everything about a girl. How? Did you hire a PI to follow her? Are you stalking her? LOL That's some pretty creepy stuff. There is NO WAY you can know everything. Unless you're doing creepy paranoid stuff like that. A sugar arrangement is for fun and paying for sex. Some dudes take it way to serious and act like the girl is their actual gf or exclusive. Dude she isn't. You don't pay for love.

You know how I know girls lie? It's not because I hired a private investigator. It's because I lie every time! About my name, about my occupation, about my backstory. About how many times I've done this (Probably 50-75 but every girl hears that it's my first or second or third). And you know what 75 percent of the girls tell me? That this is their first or second or third sugar daddy. Amazing. I seem to always get the new girls. They are always sweet and normal and students and baristas and retail workers. Never career babies. Lucky me. And lucky them because they're linking up with a guy who has only done this a few times before and is totally not just a john looking for non-pro civvy action. Everyone'a lucky day every time I meet a sugar baby. I have an almost uninterrupted string of good fortune. Maybe it's time to buy a lottery ticket. Either that or start to assume girls lie as much as I do. Which they do.

[Lexx1]

You know everything about every sugar relationship guys on the site have? Wow, your omniscience is magnificent.

I have had several long term relationships from the seeking site. None of those girls / women went back on the site after we stopped meeting. All are still 'friendly' w / me. I would never have called them a GF or whatever; I have my head on straight, and know exactly what I am doing. I and several guys IK who are on the site have had relationships that are more like affairs than escorts.

Your view of what is possible seems impoverished, which entitles you to sympathy. And, this is a point I have made before. IK what having an SO is like, and you definitely *do* pay for love when you have one like mine. And my "ppm" would pale in comparison to what people are giving SBs.

It is stylish for some people to look down on others here who don't have the same worldview. Too much of that in the political realm. No need for it. Like I said, you do you, but that doesn't mean there aren't other ways.

Never said I knew everything. You seem to think you know everything about the babies you see. If you think about it I'm actually saying I don't know everything. Especially with a baby and what she's doing when I'm not tapping that ass. I don't worry about it. That's her life. And I live mine after the fun. We go our separate ways until the next meetup. Experiences not only in the P4 P world and also real life having a real gf have taught me everything is not always as it seems. Sure you pay for love but it's in an indirect way. Courting a woman, dinners, gifts, movies, flowers, etc. It's not the same though as paying directly for pussy.

I always do me. Because I know what I'm talking about. You're a monger just like the rest of us here. You can sugarcoat it and call yourself a daddy or whatever. But whether you cruise the streets for pussy, find it online in any form, massage parlors, etc. At basics you're a monger. Just that I know not to be delusional and blind that these girls I pay for sex. Are in any way exclusive to me. Once you've paid for the booty and the meet is over. That's it. You go your separate ways and each of you is free to do whatever you want.

Feel free to respond because you probably will. But I've said what I said and done with this subject. No sympathy needed at all.

[FarFarAway]

Great analogy. Guys think they know everything about a girl. How? Did you hire a PI to follow her? Are you stalking her? LOL That's some pretty creepy stuff. There is NO WAY you can know everything. Unless you're doing creepy paranoid stuff like that. A sugar arrangement is for fun and paying for sex. Some dudes take it way to serious and act like the girl is their actual gf or exclusive. Dude she isn't. You don't pay for love.

Doesn't matter where the girl comes from. I've said this in the past. Nonpro girls that were on Craigslist are the same type of girls that are on Seeking. The only difference is you're paying a lot more on Seeking for the same girl. A baby is a nonpro! Period! And a nonpro when she is fresh. Once a girl starts coming back repeatedly and becomes a career sugarbaby. I have another name for that girl. And it's not nonpro. Once you start making it a habit to be paid for sex. Then you're a pro.

You know everything about every sugar relationship guys on the site have? Wow, your omniscience is magnificent.

I have had several long term relationships from the seeking site. None of those girls / women went back on the site after we stopped meeting. All are still 'friendly' w / me. I would never have called them a GF or whatever; I have my head on straight, and know exactly what I am doing. I and several guys IK who are on the site have had relationships that are more like affairs than escorts.

Your view of what is possible seems impoverished, which entitles you to sympathy. And, this is a point I have made before. IK what having an SO is like, and you definitely *do* pay for love when you have one like mine. And my "ppm" would pale in comparison to what people are giving SBs.

It is stylish for some people to look down on others here who don't have the same worldview. Too much of that in the political realm. No need for it. Like I said, you do you, but that doesn't mean there aren't other ways.

[Lexx1]

Totally. I chuckle whenever I read stories of guys referring to their girls on seeking as "she's now my girlfriend. ".

If you paid for it, and you did, it's like a table at a restaurant. It's yours while you're there but you have no idea who was there before you or after you, even on the same day. The waiter might call you by name, and say welcome back, and refer to the table as your special table. But only a fool thinks that means it's his table, or the waiter cares, or that he doesn't say the same thing to the next regular.

Great analogy. Guys think they know everything about a girl. How? Did you hire a PI to follow her? Are you stalking her? LOL That's some pretty creepy stuff. There is NO WAY you can know everything. Unless you're doing creepy paranoid stuff like that. A sugar arrangement is for fun and paying for sex. Some dudes take it way to serious and act like the girl is their actual gf or exclusive. Dude she isn't. You don't pay for love.

Doesn't matter where the girl comes from. I've said this in the past. Nonpro girls that were on Craigslist are the same type of girls that are on Seeking. The only difference is you're paying a lot more on Seeking for the same girl. A baby is a nonpro! Period! And a nonpro when she is fresh. Once a girl starts coming back repeatedly and becomes a career sugarbaby. I have another name for that girl. And it's not nonpro. Once you start making it a habit to be paid for sex. Then you're a pro.

[FarFarAway]

I'll just repeat that I know a whole lot about anyone I get involved with, and I am sure I am not seeing the sort of woman who is going to be flat backing a bunch of guys. There is a whole bunch of what you fellows are referring to going on on seeking, I have no doubt of that. These are girls who used to be on craigslist or backpage, and when those got shut down, they needed some place to go. They came to seeking, and their patrons followed them. That is a risk to the site, and the reason there are guys on here all the time crying about how they got banned. I applaud that, because the sort of gal I am looking for, she can only be found on seeking, and I want to continue to have a place I can find that sort of person.

There is a large cadre of women on the site who are interested but too shy, or have challenging logistics, or other hindrances to meeting, and they are very very hard for me to get into the boat (though I usually add about 20 per year to my 'life list' When I succeed, it almost always the sort of experience I am looking for (but there are almisconceptions and miscommunications from any two people planning on doing something together). But I have never believed someone I saw yesterday went on to see others that day, or even week. People can play in the gutter on seeking, but they don't have to do it that way. I have bowl buddies with the same mindset, and experience.

[Murrican]

Don't beat yourself up. It's amazing how easy it is to forget a chick from the past. Especially in this kind of game where there's no emotional attachment, assuming that's the case. L.

This particular past date went badly though.

All normal till I asked to go anal. She said ok. We did. Then she spent the rest of the night feeling awful about it like she'd given up her virginity. I was afraid she was going to call Sancho to kick my ass or something. I bailed on my airbnb the next night just to be safe.

So I was kind of embarrassed to have not remembered her. It was a pretty traumatic night. But years ago.

[Murrican]

If you think you're exclusive 100% with a baby from any sugar site then you are lying to yourself. There's no way for you to know that unless you are with the girl 24 hours, 7 days a week. You can do all the "research" you think will tell you that she is exclusive..

Totally. I chuckle whenever I read stories of guys referring to their girls on seeking as "she's now my girlfriend. ".

If you paid for it, and you did, it's like a table at a restaurant. It's yours while you're there but you have no idea who was there before you or after you, even on the same day. The waiter might call you by name, and say welcome back, and refer to the table as your special table. But only a fool thinks that means it's his table, or the waiter cares, or that he doesn't say the same thing to the next regular.

[HollywoodGuy]

Yep don't kid yourself thinking your exclusive with that baby. They could have multiple daddies they're tapping.

And if they didn't they would never go for my low ball offers in a million years. The guys that pay $$$ to 1 k definitely pave the way for me to slide in on the cheap. Not always the case. But more times than I can count.

[Lexx1]

If you think you're exclusive 100% with a baby from any sugar site then you are lying to yourself. There's no way for you to know that unless you are with the girl 24 hours, 7 days a week. You can do all the "research" you think will tell you that she is exclusive. And it doesn't matter if she's a true first timer and fresh. This doesn't apply just to Utrs / Pros. I'd be very naive to think a baby is 100% exclusive to me. Shoot people that are married and have boyfriend / girlfriends cheat. Why would I think a girl I'm basically paying for would be only seeing me. Sugaring is usually a no strings attached type of relationship. You are open to see others by default. So you know going in that you don't have to be exclusive.

While men lie more than women. Women are much better at it and sneakier than us. They know how to cover their tracks. While we thinking were slick and won't get caught. Get caught. So don't fall for the charm and sweet talk that you are the only one. Women will tell you anything you want to hear as long as they're getting what they want. Especially one that's trying to get paid. While we're paying for a fantasy. Real life isn't a fantasy world.

[FarFarAway]

How is it different than you being the 3rd SD she sees that day? That's most 'exclusive' SBs.

Speak for yourself. As is often discussed here, guys can find whatever sugarbowl they are looking for. If you are basically going w / mostly under-the-radar escorts, who definitely are on seeking, yeah, that is what you should expect. That isn't the only way to operate on the site, it isn't the way I have operated specifically, and I've not had relationships w / women from seeking who I ever suspected were seeing anyone but me.

[Lexx1]

How is it different than you being the 3rd SD she sees that day? That's most 'exclusive' SBs.

Yup. I do the same with this nice purple vibrator for my girls. LOL I keep the packaging for it in good shape and clean it really well with antibacterial soap. Then right back in the box and ready for the next girl. LOL.

And that's why I let my Seeking subscription expire. To many recycled girls but mainly not enough fresh young girls in the 18-20 range. I'm doing my own thing now in the P4 P game. And still keeping busy with my stable of long established babies.

Yep don't kid yourself thinking your exclusive with that baby. They could have multiple daddies they're tapping. Just like the multiple babies I have on rotation. I've even had babies that were married and I'd be tapping that ass while hubby is away. Just the nature of the game.

[Gidden Lade]

I've been seeking long enough to know that many of the fresh new girls are not fresh and new at all. I always see the same girls with new accounts under a new name.

Two weeks ago I reached out to a girl in Mexico since I was going to be there. She reminded me that we had, in fact, already met and had sex a few years earlier under her old name. That was more than a little embarrassing. I couldn't bring myself to respond.

Don't beat yourself up. It's amazing how easy it is to forget a chick from the past. Especially in this kind of game where there's no emotional attachment, assuming that's the case. I've even forgotten about civilian gals that I've been with; only to remember them later when something jogs my memory. It's kind of funny in a way, especially when it's one that I was hung up on while I was with her. It's kind of a life lesson that shows you truly can get over any chick if you allow yourself the time & space to do so.

I hooked up with an escort once and did not realize I had been with her about a year earlier. The only way I found out was by her reminding me after the deed was done. In my defense, she had gained a little weight, but the bottom line is she was just the lady of that particular evening. We both kind of laughed it off and once more went our separate ways.

I'm sure your Mexican SB won't care either as long as you're giving her what she wants. Don't be embarrassed, go have a good time.