Massage Parlor Reports

[Cmb41]

Happy Easter to all.

As my round was rained out today, I decided to do my grocery shopping at Fry's.

To my delight I saw the open sign on at Spring.

HAPPY Sunday!

Drove by spring after going to fry's today and it's dark again. Why open for one day (on Easter of all days too, can't imagine they would be very busy) and then back to being closed?

[Denton]

Rubmaps is showing that Spring, Aloha, Paradise, and Tops as being closed.

That's already been mentioned here. And as also previously mentioned, Rubmaps just reports what people tell them. These places are closed. So people are reporting them to Rubmaps as closed. It's not really any different than people reporting here that they are currently closed. It doesn't necessarily mean anything one way or the other as to whether they are temporarily closed or permanently closed.

[RWolt60]

Rubmaps is showing that Spring, Aloha, Paradise, and Tops as being closed.

[RWolt60]

Anyone know where she is working at this week?

[PowerZ]

Any new update?

Takeout finally called back. Short term closure. Had a problem with import / export. New rotation got stuck at the border on some technicality.

[Khancious]

You are overthinking it. Let's say they raid the place while you are being "serviced". You are simply there for a massage, which is true. You won't answer any of their questions without an attorney present and ask if you are free to go. If they say no, keep your mouth shut and retain an attorney.

Great post. The only time the busts really matter now is if they have a financial crimes investigation and get the owners for money laundering with huge chunks of cash stashed in residential properties that get raided. In general it's actually ridiculous for them to even bother as our hobby and business is far from a true crime.

[Selasorp]

You are overthinking it. Let's say they raid the place while you are being "serviced". You are simply there for a massage, which is true. You won't answer any of their questions without an attorney present and ask if you are free to go. If they say no, keep your mouth shut and retain an attorney.

I believe the reason a lot of these places have lasted as long as they have has been that:

1. The police are on private property.

2. All activities are between CONSENTING adults. If there were any human trafficking involved, they'd be gone by now.

3. None of the participants are helpful in a lawsuit, the DA likes to win lawsuits. Your "victim" is someone with limited English proficiency who enjoys making large amounts of cash and is specifically there to achieve that. The customer is there to be entertained and provide said payment. Deep stuff, I know.

4. In the event that the police go in, have sex, and then use it to justify raiding the place. Well, that didn't go so well in court last year in Flagstaff where they violated:

ARS 13-1412: "A peace officer commits unlawful sexual conduct by knowingly engaging in sexual contact. With any person who is in the officer's custody or. The subject of an investigation. ".

Which leaves me with this thought.

He is not over thinking it at all. If a LEO goes to an establishment, and is offered any thing besides a legit massage for money, that is all that is needed to get a warrant, it is more than enough to arrest the provider on the spot. There is prevailing case law regarding it. Does not matter that it is public property or not, the majority of crimes are committed on private property. The the does not file lawsuits, they file criminal charges, and l guess that you have not heard about translators, that it is easy for visa's to get revoked. I don't know where your knowledge came from, but it is not from any lawyer or anyone who has been involved in law enforcement. I saw many places get shut down in another state because of one workers offing to one LEO and them closing and reopening just to set the place uop as a sting operation.

[WalterM]

Anyone worried with the sudden stoppage and starting a week later that LE did bust and now they are reopened with LE setting up and watching everything?

Or am I just thinking of the worst case scenario and I'm overthinking it?

You are overthinking it. Let's say they raid the place while you are being "serviced". You are simply there for a massage, which is true. You won't answer any of their questions without an attorney present and ask if you are free to go. If they say no, keep your mouth shut and retain an attorney.

I believe the reason a lot of these places have lasted as long as they have has been that:

1. The police are on private property.

2. All activities are between CONSENTING adults. If there were any human trafficking involved, they'd be gone by now.

3. None of the participants are helpful in a lawsuit, the DA likes to win lawsuits. Your "victim" is someone with limited English proficiency who enjoys making large amounts of cash and is specifically there to achieve that. The customer is there to be entertained and provide said payment. Deep stuff, I know.

4. In the event that the police go in, have sex, and then use it to justify raiding the place. Well, that didn't go so well in court last year in Flagstaff where they violated:

ARS 13-1412: "A peace officer commits unlawful sexual conduct by knowingly engaging in sexual contact. With any person who is in the officer's custody or. The subject of an investigation. ".

Which leaves me with this thought. The activity is in private, between consenting adults, entrapment is likely to get thrown out of court, and as long as the place hasn't become a public nuisance with loitering and / or drug use. What have they got?

If I'm the police and I want to bust people for prostitution, I set up a sting in a low rent hotel. Your date is a cop, the location is controlled by the jurisdiction, there are hidden cameras to collect evidence like you saying "I want to fuck. ", and you literally have no rights. I don't know about your area, but I can't get police to show up for porch pirates, petty theft, speeding, loud vehicles, and probably other things the police are just too busy to do anything about. Adults having sex in private is low on the priority list unless someone is actively complaining. Let's help keep it that way.

[Cmb41]

Driving west to a family get together I figured I'd stop by the 3 in Mesa to check them out.

Confirm spring looks to be open.

Aloha still dark.

Top has their massage light on, but not the open sign.

[Asphalt]

Has any one reached out to this one or seen her?

https://rubmd.com/phoenix-az/3dae690...f-92c89bd445be

I can never get rubmd to load into my browser. Do you have to use a special location with your VPN?

[Cmb41]

One always has to take everything into consideration, but rest assured I am not LE, just reporting what I saw.

Not saying you were! Just weary of going right away just in case that is what's going on.

[WhiteSun777]

Anyone worried with the sudden stoppage and starting a week later that LE did bust and now they are reopened with LE setting up and watching everything?

Or am I just thinking of the worst case scenario and I'm overthinking it?

You're not the only one, personally I stay away (for now) till the dust settles. I recall reading a bust long time ago and they did exactly just that.

But it was only for ONE day.

Now you've got to ask yourself "Do I feel lucky today?. Well?? Do you?" .

[AzLionsFan01]

Anyone worried with the sudden stoppage and starting a week later that LE did bust and now they are reopened with LE setting up and watching everything?

Or am I just thinking of the worst case scenario and I'm overthinking it?

One always has to take everything into consideration, but rest assured I am not LE, just reporting what I saw.

[Cmb41]

Happy Easter to all.

As my round was rained out today, I decided to do my grocery shopping at Fry's.

To my delight I saw the open sign on at Spring.

HAPPY Sunday!

Anyone worried with the sudden stoppage and starting a week later that LE did bust and now they are reopened with LE setting up and watching everything?

Or am I just thinking of the worst case scenario and I'm overthinking it?

[AzLionsFan01]

Happy Easter to all.

As my round was rained out today, I decided to do my grocery shopping at Fry's.

To my delight I saw the open sign on at Spring.

HAPPY Sunday!