NoVA SugarBabies

[Dimples572]

She's back at it with this profile -.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...7-3b1945301f51

I ALMOST met up with her like 3 weeks ago but forever reason things didn't align for us. But I'd completely forgotten about your previous post. Glad I didn't meet her after all. Thanks for the heads up.

[CuriousVaMan]

She's back at it with this profile -.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...7-3b1945301f51

Tori She's baaaaack!

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...5-1bcb1b8af280

She's had several profiles over the last 6 or so months. Xoxostarz is her current profile handle. She's operating out of Gainesville, VA and she's aware of this board.

This time, she got the best of me. Successfully ran a Cash and Dash on me, even though I've been balls deep in her before. You'd think she'd want to treat a "regular" SD well, but I guess she's doesn't think long term. Oh well her loss. I fucked up by becoming too comfortable. Anyhow, stay away from her she's good at extracting the gift before delivering the goods.

As she will undoubtedly create a new profile, attached are her pics used on the current and various previous profiles. While very pretty, most pics were 20/30 pounds ago.

[AnonDemon69]

When you guys say 300-500 ppm, does that include hotel, transporting, etc. ? I feel like it's as low as you make it sound to be. What is the total cost to be around once you include hotel, transport, etc. ?

No. That is what the SB gets. Hotel, transport, and dining are not included. Although I only take out the SB for food / drinks during the first date or unless she asks. Some SB's drive, others just pay for their own cabs (have had a couple that want you to pay for theirs but it's only like 20 bucks). I have been lucky to have one that hosts, but only after we had been at this for a couple of months. Consider paying a dayuse hotel in the 100 range. I would say 450 to 650 range when you put it all together.

[Mambalit]

You can go with a low to mid-level escort, and pay 120 for a quickie in her shitty apartment or hotel room that's saturated with the funk of the other six guys who hit it that day, or..

Pay a higher end agency girl or independent contractor 5-700 per hour to lie to you about how good you are while she watches the clock, or..

Put in a little effort and get a sb (who actually laid eyes on you and chose you somewhat) and have 2-4 hr romps and sometimes overnights and freebies with all the trimmings for 3-400 (maybe 5). And yeah, in the best cases, freebies, fwb situations or steep situational discounts come into play if it's ongoing.

Just depends on what version of the lie you prefer.

To each their own.

When you guys say 300-500 ppm, does that include hotel, transporting, etc. ? I feel like it's as low as you make it sound to be. What is the total cost to be around once you include hotel, transport, etc. ?

[Arty33]

Also the higher possibility of BBFS and / or in some cases they stop asking for money. Either are very unlikely to happen with pros.

BBFS and CIP, then in theory no limit on time, but in practice it's usually a couple of hours. Don't know what is too much, but the only SB I am seeing now is a 18 year old college freshman, that too trying to stop because of logistics and price is one factor, but not the main reason. It is in the ball park range for the area. It's nice to pick her up from campus, drive to FC location, have a romp in the sheet with no clock watching, BB, flexible with willing to do all kind of things like a sex kitten, until I am fully done. I take breaks in between, use bathroom, wash junior, come back and make her do BBBJ standing up besides the bed while she still lay there after getting railed for 30 minutes. Then roll her over and go for more, until I finish either in her, or in her mouth, stomach, anywhere I wish. At this point she's just fine with anything since we've been together for 6-8 months.

Which pro would do this? And what you have to put up. No one I bet.

[BobDingle10]

I'm consistently amazed at how much men in here are willing to overpay for what are very average looking women. Escorts are often significantly more attractive and a guarantee.

Is it the allure of semi-exclusivity (which is likely a lie)?

You can go with a low to mid-level escort, and pay 120 for a quickie in her shitty apartment or hotel room that's saturated with the funk of the other six guys who hit it that day, or…..

Pay a higher end agency girl or “independent contractor” 5-700 per hour to lie to you about how good you are while she watches the clock, or…..

Put in a little effort and get a sb (who actually laid eyes on you and chose you somewhat) and have 2-4 hr romps and sometimes overnights and freebies with all the trimmings for 3-400 (maybe 5). And yeah, in the best cases, freebies, fwb situations or steep situational discounts come into play if it's ongoing.

Just depends on what version of the lie you prefer.

To each their own.

[ChrisCarr]

I'm consistently amazed at how much men in here are willing to overpay for what are very average looking women. Escorts are often significantly more attractive and a guarantee.

Is it the allure of semi-exclusivity (which is likely a lie)?

Also the higher possibility of BBFS and / or in some cases they stop asking for money. Either are very unlikely to happen with pros.

[ShortMan22]

I did not counter. The concern around her being bigger than her photos didn't motivate me to pursue this one that hard. She seemed like a nice girl personality wise, so didn't know why else someone would ditch her at the FC.

From looking at her social media, she's definitely gained some weight. Not worth 700 in my book.

[Squatty2]

Wow, $700 for her? I mean she's not unattractive but she's not "hot" either. The $300 range. ? Sure, I could see it as a last resort type of thing. But $700? Sheesh! She wasn't willing to consider anything less? Or did you even counter?

I'm consistently amazed at how much men in here are willing to overpay for what are very average looking women. Escorts are often significantly more attractive and a guarantee.

Is it the allure of semi-exclusivity (which is likely a lie)?

[Dimples572]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...1-a3bd185f572b

Real and DTF. Had a M&G with her. She seemed nice enough and generally looked like her photos, though she was wearing a jacket and to me, seemed a bit larger than her photos. However, ultimately she wanted 7, which was a no for me. She also told me about meeting a guy at a hotel and him making an excuse to go to his car and never coming back, so that wasn't a good sign.

Wow, $700 for her? I mean she's not unattractive but she's not "hot" either. The $300 range. ? Sure, I could see it as a last resort type of thing. But $700? Sheesh! She wasn't willing to consider anything less? Or did you even counter?

[Tophat31]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...1-a3bd185f572b

Real and DTF. Had a M&G with her. She seemed nice enough and generally looked like her photos, though she was wearing a jacket and to me, seemed a bit larger than her photos. However, ultimately she wanted 7, which was a no for me. She also told me about meeting a guy at a hotel and him making an excuse to go to his car and never coming back, so that wasn't a good sign.

Wanted 7 but over text said she was willing to do 4. She has weird availability times so stopped talking.

[Mandane]

She looks a little different than her old face photo. She also listed herself as Middle Eastern before, wonder what the truth is.

She's Nepalese and Jewish if I remember correctly. Definitely has straddling the line between the two. I wouldn't put any stock into it. If you hadn't seen the old listing it probably wouldn't even cross your mind if you met her. She probably just did it to not get pigeon holed as ethnic.

[ShortMan22]

I felt the same. She was quite freaky but then got major gps.

Yeah! She's not worth anything above 300. Anything above that could be disappointing.

[Funny Money]

I've reviewed her in the past, maybe like 2-3 years back. She's definitely the girl in the pictures. She became very high volume and Is a heavy weed smoker. Damage at the time was 250 and it was very easy to set up meet and greet. During the meet and greet it was very easy to convince her to slob on the knob. BBBJ was 7/10. She was decent at taking a pounding as well. As time progresses and her volume increased she became lazy and everything was done half-ass. That why I dropped her.

Some one elses experience might be different from mine.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...3-af12efce004b

I felt the same. She was quite freaky but then got major gps.

[DrSummer]

I take all good precautions mentioned (no explicit convo on the site, respectful to the girls, never reported anyone on the site etc. Etc), but I still got suspended. Even on offline convo, if I don't like where the conversation is heading, I either drop the convo nicely saying there is no match, or just block them and move on. I never get back arguing with them. But the site is full of nut cases. It just takes something trivial for them to go off and get all hyped up. Most likely one of those nut cases reported me. The site believes them rather than us. Just how it is. We need the pussy, and they know that. LOL.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

I was banned once last year. So I just made another account. No problem since (touchwood). Idea is to never discuss any gift, gas money or any financial amount. If they insist of discussing money on the site. Just block them. Trust me it's not worthed.

As for as sending messages. Most men including me send a lot of messages hoping something sticks. I travel a lot for business so can't help it. I don't think seeking cares about how many people you message in a day.

I report 3-4 fraudulent profiles in a week, take a screen shot from my google messages and attach it "upload evidence" (not sure if they ever check it). So far so good.

Happy cautious mongering friends.