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  1. #8418
    Quote Originally Posted by AppleSauce87  [View Original Post]
    Anyone just get kinda depressed reading these threads? Just a bunch of delusional people asking for absurd amounts. It seems like the delusions have grown over the years. Of course able to negotiate down, I do so a bunch. But the fact these numbers even get asked.
    Prices have gone way up in the past 2 years. If you're not used to seeing these high numbers, then it can feel uncomfortable / depressing. In a lot of posts, you see members post ppm but they don't post a rating with it so it's really hard to tell if it's overpriced or undervalued. It's like comparing apples with oranges or like a Prius vs Ferrari vs Bugatti. You can still find plenty of 5's and 6's and sometimes 7's in the 300-500 ppm range on Seeking but just not the 8's, 9's, and 10's.

  2. #8417
    Quote Originally Posted by AppleSauce87  [View Original Post]
    Anyone just get kinda depressed reading these threads? Just a bunch of delusional people asking for absurd amounts. It seems like the delusions have grown over the years. Of course able to negotiate down, I do so a bunch. But the fact these numbers even get asked.
    Don't discount the impact of monetary policy and inflation. Those of us in the business world saw that PPP and ERTC and stimulus checks lifted the tide of monetary supply across the board. When a recession takes hold in 2024, there will be a correction. It's like home prices. Everyone thinks their house is worth what it was worth at the top of some cycle in the past. And it takes a year or so of new comps in your neighborhood to finally make you realize that your home is no longer worth that amount. Girls who asked and got 750-1000 will change once the number of guys willing to pay that much goes down. Or they'll exit and a new crop of young girls (and there's always a new crop. That's the beauty of the passage of time) will not be tethered to a past that no longer exists.

  3. #8416
    Quote Originally Posted by UnknownSD  [View Original Post]
    I believe I reviewed her before previously. She's asking for $700 ppm now but negotiable. She's BBFS. She lives in Victorville and comes down to LA to do her sugaring. Her looks are a 6 and her body is a 6-7. She has big warts around her nose and mouth area, possibly she has HPV. That's a turn-off for me. Definite pass.
    I'm watching a vid of her rn and don't notice any warts. She does have natural moles around her nose and cheek area. Regardless, I'll get tested soon. She's GND looks which I like so my ratings are slightly higher. Great sized breasts for how small she is.

  4. #8415
    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHX  [View Original Post]
    Tati:

    https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-c73825272d27

    This girl has a handful of profiles. I have seen her when she first joined for 500. Since then I think she's gone off the deep end and had someone managing her account and then maybe got another account of her own. Though that's a bit unclear as she's been a total flake still.

    This is accurate. I think she messed with a booker in the past but now has her own account. Saw her last year a bunch of times at 400-500. We took a break for months but started seeing her again recently. She has that GND look that I like. 24 yo but looks 18-19. Face is 7. 5, body is 7. 5 and she fits really well down there. She's been accepting much less than 5 lately which is great but I think it's bc I've seen her a bunch. One great thing is she accepts video. It's the vids that make me want to see her again but I think I'm done with her.

    She's def more pro or escort type, usually doesn't stay longer than 2 hours and that's a big problem for me. I'm sticking with girls that stay at least 4 hrs and can go 2-3 rounds. This definitely ain't her.
    I believe I reviewed her before previously. She's asking for $700 ppm now but negotiable. She's BBFS. She lives in Victorville and comes down to LA to do her sugaring. Her looks are a 6 and her body is a 6-7. She has big warts around her nose and mouth area, possibly she has HPV. That's a turn-off for me. Definite pass.

  5. #8414
    Anyone just get kinda depressed reading these threads? Just a bunch of delusional people asking for absurd amounts. It seems like the delusions have grown over the years. Of course able to negotiate down, I do so a bunch. But the fact these numbers even get asked.

  6. #8413

    8, 9, 10's

    Just curious what other member's ratings are like. Care to share some of your 8, 9, 10's? You can just share their username or photo if any. Most of their profile links are probably gone.

    I'll share one. Her username is Mia. She's a model 5'9". She's tall and skinny with a perfect complexion and body. Her looks and body are a 10.

  7. #8412
    Quote Originally Posted by FarFarAway  [View Original Post]
    And every SD gets the one he is looking for / fishing in.

    HG goes for a very tight window of SBs, and his practices work for that group, and his situation. I am in a completely different realm. So, if you want to play his way, you'll likely get his experiences.

    I have a SO I am dodging, so that cuts out all sorts of his practices. I have also had great sugar dating experiences w / anything from 19 year old college students to 64 year old grandmothers. Their common thread. They really have to be amateurs, and they really had to be hot. My goal in life, as I have said, is to nail as much high quality pussy as I can. Emphasis on the quality, both looks and performance. No dumb bunnies. Almost all have been caucasian. I also spend more than he does on allowance. I have memories to take to my grave, which is the whole point.
    We are quite the same in this regard. I only bang 18-23, hot, no or tiny tattoos, non pro. I would just rather have nothing than something out of my target zone, which is probably owed to being middle aged and married to a middle aged wife and being familiar with the notion of settling in the sex world. I pay generously, and I am willing to take nothing instead of something suboptimal.

    On a separate notes, I often wonder what life would be like if I were single and just maintained a harem of sugar babies. Like always had some young girls over when I wanted sex or company.

    Then I realize that's stupid. After a night of sex I often just want these dumb girls to go away. And I realize it's like going on a great vacation and wondering why it would be like to buy a second home there and always be able to do it. Which is like the stupidest thing people with resources do. There's a true benefit to novelty and intermittence. Taking those away is like having pizza every night and trying to enjoy it.

    Hope I keep this perspective.

  8. #8411
    Tati:

    https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-c73825272d27

    This girl has a handful of profiles. I have seen her when she first joined for 500. Since then I think she's gone off the deep end and had someone managing her account and then maybe got another account of her own. Though that's a bit unclear as she's been a total flake still.

    This is accurate. I think she messed with a booker in the past but now has her own account. Saw her last year a bunch of times at 400-500. We took a break for months but started seeing her again recently. She has that GND look that I like. 24 yo but looks 18-19. Face is 7. 5, body is 7. 5 and she fits really well down there. She's been accepting much less than 5 lately which is great but I think it's bc I've seen her a bunch. One great thing is she accepts video. It's the vids that make me want to see her again but I think I'm done with her.

    She's def more pro or escort type, usually doesn't stay longer than 2 hours and that's a big problem for me. I'm sticking with girls that stay at least 4 hrs and can go 2-3 rounds. This definitely ain't her.

  9. #8410
    Quote Originally Posted by FarFarAway  [View Original Post]
    HG goes for a very tight window of SBs
    And I recommend that to anyone. When you are only looking to nail your version of a 10 the girl is going to feel your passion. In the civi world that may be the deciding factor. But in the bowl although they may appreciate it the more pro they are less it will matter. I am pretty strict when it comes to looks and especially body type. But I also search out a very specific personality type. When I find it all in one I am long gone. And those are the ones that end up being long term.

  10. #8409

    There are many many sugar bowls

    And every SD gets the one he is looking for / fishing in.

    HG goes for a very tight window of SBs, and his practices work for that group, and his situation. I am in a completely different realm. So, if you want to play his way, you'll likely get his experiences.

    I have a SO I am dodging, so that cuts out all sorts of his practices. I have also had great sugar dating experiences w / anything from 19 year old college students to 64 year old grandmothers. Their common thread. They really have to be amateurs, and they really had to be hot. My goal in life, as I have said, is to nail as much high quality pussy as I can. Emphasis on the quality, both looks and performance. No dumb bunnies. Almost all have been caucasian. I also spend more than he does on allowance. I have memories to take to my grave, which is the whole point.

  11. #8408
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexx1  [View Original Post]
    My MO is negotiating before first meet. I don't usually do meet and greets. Only if the girl wants to do one. That way everything is clear and no need to waste time and money on dinners and such. The expectation is clear and we just meet up at the hotel, ready to go.

    If you're a rich dude. Then fine I guess you can throw that money around. But just asking straight out for PPM amount. Is like agreeing to a prostitutes hourly amount. Which is not what a sugar baby is normally meant to be. A non-pro. Doing this is what has driven up the price for a sugar baby. I will keep negotiating.
    Been doing it this way forever. Sometimes I will do a dinner because I just feel like going on a date like that. In L. A. I had girls coming straight to my place maybe 50% of the time and went to pick them up the other 50%. But in vegas I always go to meet them at or near their residence the first time out. The rate is still negotiated upfront but I just don't feel as secure here as I was in L. A.

    My house in the hollywood hills was like a fortress. And most of the time there was already another girl or two in the house (those were the days). Just getting in and out of that place was a bit intimidating so I never worried about any funny business. And more than a few times I would get a room in DTLA if they lived too far away. But in vegas I want to get a good look and feel for the situation before bringing them back to my place. But I have never once met a girl without the rate well agreed upon by both parties in advance.

  12. #8407

    SB Reviews 12/29/2023

    Icybabygirl. Mixed girl in her early 20's. She wants 400-500 for a platonic date. Her looks are a 6. Definite pass.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/d...a-0b006da76c62

    KindQueen. Fake / Scammer.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/3...a-bc64d5170835

    Tanlinesbaby. Fake / Scammer.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/6...d-58fe0609a979

    Beebia. Blonde girl in her early 20's. First time sugaring and selective. Looks is a 7. Her body is a 6.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/3...0-9050a02178a9

    Lamasbella. White girl in her late 20's. Platonic only. Looks is a 7.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/d...6-d05525378257

    Suede. Fake / Scammer.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/a...2-caa8e6cc55d6

    MysteriousRunner. Fake / Scammer. Keeps taunting you for money. Uses an IG model pics and videos for scamming.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/a...3-d5e89f3d565c

    FeminineBabe. Her profile pics are fake. Blonde girl in her late 30's or possibly early 40's. Asking for 1 k ppm minimum. Definite pass.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/7...d-728904dcb49a

    SwedishPrincess. Swedish blonde girl in her mid or late 20's. She's currently here as a student studying at UCI. She lives in Irvine. She's very friendly and easygoing. However, she's asking for 1 k ppm and a condom only. She is willing to drive to meet you. Her looks are a 7.5 and her body is a 7.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/3...2-1a860bbb714d

    Prettykitty. Fake / scammer.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-ce0596b45125

    Jaym4 ds. Review Part 3 Continued. It turns out she's real. She's super flaky. She's currently working at a retail store and works sporadic hours. She's looking for 1 k-1.5 k ppm and condoms only. Looks is a 7. Her body is a 7. Her upper teeth have yellowish stains and tarter around. She needs to get her teeth cleaned. Kind of a turn-off. Not as attractive as her pics look. She looks better in photos.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/4...1-138c37e1e249

  13. #8406
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexx1  [View Original Post]
    Man hearing some of the numbers being thrown around here lately is loco. 400 to 1000. I make good money and could afford higher ppms. I'm not rich but could still manage them. But why? I started in this game finding non-pros on Craigslist. With some dabbling on SA back then. You could find the same quality of girls on SA back then on CL for around 100-140,200 tops for an overnight. SA was always a bit more back then too. But not the amounts being thrown around now. Straight up asking for a PPM amount is not good. I've always negotiated. And if a chic is expecting a lot more. Then I'm like bye bye. I don't give in as well to buy up. I've said it before. I don't care how hot a girl is. If it's way more than I want to spend. Then bye bye. Had that happen with a hot Persian chic that wanted to upsell right at the meetup. After we had already negotiated beforehand. I was like nope, bye. My MO is negotiating before first meet. I don't usually do meet and greets. Only if the girl wants to do one. That way everything is clear and no need to waste time and money on dinners and such. The expectation is clear and we just meet up at the hotel, ready to go.

    If you're a rich dude. Then fine I guess you can throw that money around. But just asking straight out for PPM amount. Is like agreeing to a prostitutes hourly amount. Which is not what a sugarbaby is normally meant to be. A non-pro. Doing this is what has driven up the price for a sugarbaby. I will keep negotiating.
    Agree 100%. Great post. Wasn't too long ago when 400 used to be considered GPS territory, but now some of you mongers have made that the bare minimum (no pun intended)

  14. #8405
    Quote Originally Posted by FarFarAway  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, I spent about 15 years up there. So, their team, it's the 49 ers, right? We used to talk about a lot of the girls being 49 ers also. DYK what that means? It's girls who are really 4's but think they are 9's.

    LOL.
    That's fucking funny.

  15. #8404

    SB Reviews

    Here's some more insight for the group:

    Twinkle:

    https://members.seeking.com/member/3...5-febad01ba8bc

    https://twitter.com/twinkleestars_

    If you want a tattooed alt barbie type Twinkle is fun. She is a makeup artist so she always wears a lot of makeup. And then all the LA stereotypes. Big fake tits, and injected lips. She doesn't really like people watching her eat so not the type you take to dinner. She's not the best kisser. She's pretty good at BBBJ and likes to choke on it but lacks stamina. She has a wild streak though and we've had some fun in the car which was a good time. She's really really tiny in every way. Good times. Definitely on the pro side and 600.

    Tati:

    https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-c73825272d27

    This girl has a handful of profiles. I have seen her when she first joined for 500. Since then I think she's gone off the deep end and had someone managing her account and then maybe got another account of her own. Though that's a bit unclear as she's been a total flake still.

    Her booker has a stable of other girls the latest of which is:

    https://members.seeking.com/member/1...9-e10fa438826f

    Pass for me.

    Francesca:

    https://members.seeking.com/member/7...e-957742c49956

    Wants a paid dinner to start. I explained that a M&G is unpaid and certainly not a full sugar type deal. Couldn't find a place to meet in the middle as she wouldn't go less than 400 for dinner and a blowjob.

    Belle:

    https://members.seeking.com/member/f...a-9b455cd55bba

    Desperate pro. Her profile photos and more photos she sent me look like very different people. She explained she wears all kinds of different wigs and has a bunch of new tattoos. It felt weird to me how different they were. She was down to get together for 400 and was very persistent texting me all the time trying to meet up.

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