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  1. #24261

    Undercover

    Quote Originally Posted by DbbClassy2  [View Original Post]
    From the materials I've read, all from legit attorneys, there's a difference between what officers are allowed to do versus what will stick for a jury. I did not mean to imply any officer will go so far as starting or participating in a sexual act. I haven't seen that. But there are some pervasive myths that Providers and Plays both believe, especially about "touch my boobs if you're not LEO". Police Departments have wide latitude in what they're allowed to do. Generally speaking, juries don't convict if the officer "goes too far" by initiating sexual contact. That doesn't mean you can't be arrested if the officer is doing it; it's just better for your defense and you're not likely to be convicted if the officer has.

    If the Provider is initiating, taking off her clothes and all that, then more than likely it's not a sting. Personally, as a measure to protect from kinds of girls who dash as soon as they receive the cashapp, I tell them upfront I don't send any money until they're actively getting undressed. I'll show the the payment screen with my finger right over the "Send" button. I'll go when she goes. If they have a problem with that, that's a girl who probably wasn't going to complete the service in the first place and I walk.
    I have no real clue of laws regarding being set up etc. I bewn doing this a while. Since 1991. Before internet aites I knew if. Just yellow page escort number and street girls and damn little trailers in san antonio. News paper adds etc. I probably been lucky. Quite a few states. Not so much any more. But I do prefer posts where the lady is nude maybe a short video. Helps me. Think cops might not post nudes. Maybe they do. Also. If a lady says she doesn't see any particular race or age group a. I don't think cops would weed out a potential john that way. Maybe? . just a couple things I look for.

  2. #24260
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottiePimp  [View Original Post]
    The first one is one of the bigger mysteries to me. I have never seen a review of her and have been eyeing her for a couple of years. Me and another brother on the board are stumped by her. I have texted with her a couple of times but it has never worked out. As a matter of fact, I was going to see her a couple of weeks ago but she responded to me too late. Unfortunately, I have no report to add, but like you I'm hoping that someone else can finally chime in on her.
    Yeap, same thing pretty much happened to me (https://skipthegames.com/posts/ralei...-/110608225378).

    Also, never seem a review on this one and been eying her for about a couple of years. I asked about her about 3 times and no one knows anything about her https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...eigh/160710544.

  3. #24259
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDesert  [View Original Post]
    I saw that first link a while back. She gave some reason that I cannot recall to explain why she couldn't get on top, but otherwise it was a pleasant experience. She's got a nice ass for sure.
    Thanks! Seems like you're pretty new in here!

  4. #24258

    Undercover Sting Ops

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLooking  [View Original Post]
    IIRC HI was the last state where officers could actually engage in sex with a suspect during a string. My non lawyer understanding is that they have to do everything within their power to not have sex with a suspect.
    From the materials I've read, all from legit attorneys, there's a difference between what officers are allowed to do versus what will stick for a jury. I did not mean to imply any officer will go so far as starting or participating in a sexual act. I haven't seen that. But there are some pervasive myths that Providers and Plays both believe, especially about "touch my boobs if you're not LEO". Police Departments have wide latitude in what they're allowed to do. Generally speaking, juries don't convict if the officer "goes too far" by initiating sexual contact. That doesn't mean you can't be arrested if the officer is doing it; it's just better for your defense and you're not likely to be convicted if the officer has.

    If the Provider is initiating, taking off her clothes and all that, then more than likely it's not a sting. Personally, as a measure to protect from kinds of girls who dash as soon as they receive the cashapp, I tell them upfront I don't send any money until they're actively getting undressed. I'll show the the payment screen with my finger right over the "Send" button. I'll go when she goes. If they have a problem with that, that's a girl who probably wasn't going to complete the service in the first place and I walk.

  5. #24257

    Kali, gone visiting

    Quote Originally Posted by FineTaste  [View Original Post]
    Where is the initials / date to know she's gone?
    CNT 11/18.

    Her prices shot up real quick too, once this board hyped her up.

  6. #24256

    Dammit

    Quote Originally Posted by DbbClassy2  [View Original Post]
    Kali, who made quite a stir here for a while when she got started, then her services quickly went to shit afterwards. Well, she's not going to be reachable for a bit.
    Fuck I had seen her a couple of weeks ago and had an awesome session at the old price. Where is the initials / date to know she's gone? I was also suspicious that she hasn't been posting for a while and my texts have gone completely unanswered. Damn another gem is gone while these scamming hoes are just propping up left and right giving no service at ridiculous prices.

  7. #24255
    Quote Originally Posted by DbbClassy2  [View Original Post]

    There's no full proof method of ensuring you're not part of a sting, however, if you're getting the feeling that you're being pressured to talk about specific acts at a specific price, nope out.
    IIRC HI was the last state where officers could actually engage in sex with a suspect during a string. My non lawyer understanding is that they have to do everything within their power to not have sex with a suspect. For female undercovers, it's rare that you're going to actually be alone in the room with them because of the danger involved. Old school stings usually involved an undercover getting you to solicit then asking you to pull to the next corner so they could get in. When you pulled around you'd get pulled over before the undercover could get in your car. My understanding is that with hotel stings often the male cops are in the bathroom or an adjacent room and in many cases the female isn't in the room. In my experience if I'm leary or feeling uneasy I'll tell the chick to meet me at the elevator, side door, out front. Depending on the price if they can't accomodate that then I'll walk.

    Yes cops can lie but no female under cover is going to put your dick in her mouth or allow you to kiss them. Again I'm now a lawyer but my understanding is that responding to an ad is generally enough to get you if you show up. If you happen to find yourself in a sting just ask for a lawyer then shut your mouth. There's nothing you can say that will help you. For those of us who use a texting app, close out the app and log out of it before you knock on the door.

  8. #24254
    Quote Originally Posted by ToySoldier  [View Original Post]
    Her services list "penis massage"? Fuck yeah it's a scammer!
    That's what stuck out to me also. But her comms being on point, no deposit, and FT verify was what got me thinking and looking for reviews. Typically I know when I'm talking to a scammer because I'll throw out trigger questions and they will answer with some shit that doesn't even make since or the same reply multiple times to different questions. This one answers fast and with the right answer. Guess they are evolving. Anyways thanks for the help.

  9. #24253
    Quote Originally Posted by DbbClassy2  [View Original Post]
    Kali, who made quite a stir here for a while when she got started, then her services quickly went to shit afterwards. Well, she's not going to be reachable for a bit.
    I thought that may be the case. Hadn't seen her post in a few days. When I don't see a girl posting or posting regularly, I always assume the worst and never reach out.

  10. #24252
    Quote Originally Posted by DbbClassy2  [View Original Post]
    If you're wondering what all the initials are about, 6 girls were caught up in a bust at Motel 6 on Buck Jones Rd, so they're not going to be around for a while.

    This is a good time to emphasize again the difference between solicitation of prostitution (illegal) and escorting (legal). Solicitation means asking for a specific act for a specific price. "BBBJ for $60". That's solicitation. Escorting is paying for time and companionship. "How much for 15 minutes of your time? Don't talk about acts and price at the same time. Don't do it. If you want to know if a provider does BBBJ or bare or whatever, you should ask in such a way that it's completely not related to a price.

    LEO checks: How to know if you're dealing with an undercover;.

    Most LEO checks are myths. Asking "are you law enforcement?" is meaningless because the Supreme Court has upheld that law enforcement can lie straight to your face.

    "Can you show me your breasts / penis " ? Myth. Law enforcement can touch you, be touched or expose themselves as part of a sting.

    There's no full proof method of ensuring you're not part of a sting, however, if you're getting the feeling that you're being pressured to talk about specific acts at a specific price, nope out. The best you can do is continually talk about spending money for time and companionship. If sex should happen as two consenting adults, well, there's nothing illegal about that. "I understand I'm only paying for your time and companionship, but I was curious: if we hit it off really well and things got heated, are you into (whatever sexual thing)?" You might get busted anyway, but that's much harder to make stick. Usually the idea is to scare you so much that you're willing to roll over on someone else to save yourself. Shut up, let your lawyer do the talking.
    If you get jammed up, you're fucked either way. They aren't going to let you walk. In the best case scenario, you will get arrested but they won't have enough evidence to actually charge you. So the charges will likely be dropped. However, by the time you have had your mugshot plastered on the internet and potentially lost your wife and job, getting charges dropped is a small consolation.

  11. #24251
    Quote Originally Posted by Krypty420  [View Original Post]
    Hey Fellas,

    This one is coming to my city and I see from her previous post she has spent some time in Raleigh. I have tried to search and don't see any reviews. Her comms are very good which is throwing me off. Any intel would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw.../1?search=Jaxx
    Her services list "penis massage"? Fuck yeah it's a scammer!

  12. #24250

    Duh

    Quote Originally Posted by DbbClassy2  [View Original Post]
    Every day, someone has to complain about prices. The forum rules state argumentative comments toward members in general are not allowed, yet it seems to me that an individual telling others what they should and shouldn't spend on a provider is entirely improper. I can complain that a Big Mack is now $3. 00 when it used to be a quarter but it's not going to change that inflation is a real thing and people have to make money to survive. Even a roach motel room is going to cost $60-$80 a night. The same roach motel that most plays won't visit because they're afraid of being robbed in the parking lot. A decent room will cost $150 a night. I can understand how none of these girls are to have sex all day with 10 men a day just to make the room charge, let alone eat and do anything else. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, I don't see how anyone is entitled to tell other members how they should spend their money because that member can't afford to spend the same.
    Its allowed because they aren't personal attacks. Talking about pricing is probably the second most common topic in this line of hobby.

  13. #24249

    Gang threats

    The first time I got the text with gang threats, it spooked me too but they are just scammers. Now I fuck with them.

    Ask where they want to meet up.

    Ask if they will take a check.

    When they threaten your family, tell them your family is already dead and you want to meet up to fuck him in the ass.

    They will go away. Probably someone at a call center in India.

  14. #24248
    Quote Originally Posted by Hd1976  [View Original Post]
    Getting gang threats after asking price on this one.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...eigh/160404561
    No worry about any gangs. They are just scammers. I have been messing with them and shutting them down months. Most are just just amateurs thinking they'll get a fast buck but haven't really thought through the whole plan LOL.

    PM me with details please.

  15. #24247

    How is it complaints about prices are allowed?

    Every day, someone has to complain about prices. The forum rules state argumentative comments toward members in general are not allowed, yet it seems to me that an individual telling others what they should and shouldn't spend on a provider is entirely improper. I can complain that a Big Mack is now $3. 00 when it used to be a quarter but it's not going to change that inflation is a real thing and people have to make money to survive. Even a roach motel room is going to cost $60-$80 a night. The same roach motel that most plays won't visit because they're afraid of being robbed in the parking lot. A decent room will cost $150 a night. I can understand how none of these girls are to have sex all day with 10 men a day just to make the room charge, let alone eat and do anything else. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, I don't see how anyone is entitled to tell other members how they should spend their money because that member can't afford to spend the same.

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