Agency Discussion and Reviews

**Xonms** · 11-10-23 23:39

Look like BO is down I can't access it.

**Almel89** · 11-10-23 22:09

Originally Posted by Max#01 [View Original Post]

I would like to think that every one of us has already formulated how to respond to a cop stopping us when we leave (either on foot or at a contrived traffic stop). I guess a lot of guys buy into the classic cop extortion lie of "Tell me everything and I'll make sure the judge goes easy on you. " You've got to have the worse-case scenario figured out even before you go to the ATM machine.

Future agencies should include the Shut the fuck up Friday video for all their mongers within the text instructions when they open up again. Imagine how funny that would be, korgs informing mongers of their rights.

**Max #01** · 11-10-23 21:58

Originally Posted by Derilious89 [View Original Post]

Ironically, it was 100% "us" who got them busted. From the report, they had nothing but money laundering until they got the mongers to flip. Dudes straight up admitted to everything as they were walking out and handed over their phones for corroboration LOL. I mean, I get the fact that a lot of mongers are trying to hide cheating, but it's comical to read that report and see how everything is built around the testimony of the mongers. I still don't know why you wouldn't just say that you went there to vent, talk, and cuddle with the girl. Ask them to give you play by play of what happened in room and if they did somehow have evidence, then you can sing to your heart's content. Otherwise, as lawyers will tell you, STFU.

PII can help filter out bad customers and potentially cops from getting in the door, but it can't help the agencies protect themselves from customers pooping their pants at the first tough question from a cop.

I would like to think that every one of us has already formulated how to respond to a cop stopping us when we leave (either on foot or at a contrived traffic stop). I guess a lot of guys buy into the classic cop extortion lie of "Tell me everything and I'll make sure the judge goes easy on you. " You've got to have the worse-case scenario figured out even before you go to the ATM machine.

**Derilious89** · 11-10-23 20:52

Originally Posted by Max#01 [View Original Post]

It's ironic that, in spite of their requests for intrusive levels of PII from us clients, they still got busted. I don't think it was us they needed to worry about.

Ironically, it was 100% "us" who got them busted. From the report, they had nothing but money laundering until they got the mongers to flip. Dudes straight up admitted to everything as they were walking out and handed over their phones for corroboration LOL. I mean, I get the fact that a lot of mongers are trying to hide cheating, but it's comical to read that report and see how everything is built around the testimony of the mongers. I still don't know why you wouldn't just say that you went there to vent, talk, and cuddle with the girl. Ask them to give you play by play of what happened in room and if they did somehow have evidence, then you can sing to your heart's content. Otherwise, as lawyers will tell you, STFU.

PII can help filter out bad customers and potentially cops from getting in the door, but it can't help the agencies protect themselves from customers pooping their pants at the first tough question from a cop.

**GMarts018** · 11-10-23 20:35

I'm confused how beg still appears to be operating. The site is up still and seemingly updated. Someone mentioned that they have visited recently. How can this be? I understand if they are continuing surveillance but if the alleged operators have been arrested. Confused.

**Meddoc1973** · 11-10-23 19:30

AP:

Ada: Not the girl in the picture. Not even close. Face was okay but body flabby. She left quickly. She stopped here for few days en route to Chicago. So agency don't care.

Blue:

Berry: big face and not the girl in the picture. Maybe agency used ultra filter and removed 50 lbs. Disappointed. Left quickly after 5 seconds.

Taking a break from low quality. Super glad I have SB.

**Max #01** · 11-10-23 19:26

Originally Posted by ClassySemite [View Original Post]

I've been seeing girls in BEG, Boston10, blossom, angels, AG, BO, and a ton of other places the last several weeks consistently multiple times a week and no one has reached out to me. They have all my PI too. I'm not worried, but I told my lawyer just in case.

It's ironic that, in spite of their requests for intrusive levels of PII from us clients, they still got busted. I don't think it was us they needed to worry about.

**KOF96** · 11-10-23 18:04

Originally Posted by BoMcC [View Original Post]

HappyTogetherVA was in Mosaic pre pandemic. When they came back to the area after a hiatus I think they were in a Tysons Apt complex.

Hard to believe that no one who posts on these boards (or other review sites) wasn't picked up. Unless we're just the 1% of the 1% who like to chat about it. When I was in a MP in MoCo that got busted while I was there you're damn right I was posting about it when I got home.

Something like 20 johns squealed out of the thousands of visits that have taken place over 3 years. It's statistically possible, but then there's also more than just this board after all.

**ClassySemite** · 11-10-23 17:30

I've been seeing girls in BEG, Boston10, blossom, angels, AG, BO, and a ton of other places the last several weeks consistently multiple times a week and no one has reached out to me. They have all my PI too. I'm not worried, but I told my lawyer just in case.

**BoMcC** · 11-10-23 16:27

Originally Posted by Erikleewashdc [View Original Post]

Was there ever a website named Happy Together or Happy something? I know they ran out of that APT building in Moasic which was one of the target apartments in the law doc.

HappyTogetherVA was in Mosaic pre pandemic. When they came back to the area after a hiatus I think they were in a Tysons Apt complex.

Hard to believe that no one who posts on these boards (or other review sites) wasn't picked up. Unless we're just the 1% of the 1% who like to chat about it. When I was in a MP in MoCo that got busted while I was there you're damn right I was posting about it when I got home.

**TheeBoyFellow** · 11-10-23 15:59

Any info on Berry? There is some info from a TER review a few months ago. Same girl?

**TheeBoyFellow** · 11-10-23 15:53

Looking for some recs. Any girl with some energy and decent looks. Has anyone seen any girls from BO or APC that hit the spot? There are no reviews for Ami or Sakura on here yet.

**JmSuttr** · 11-10-23 15:42

Originally Posted by BallerTbakflsl [View Original Post]

Went to BEG like 2-3 weeks ago and used Zelle. I am an idiot.

If you don't have a security clearance, then I wouldn't lose any sleep about it. IMO, it's unlikely that any individual client will get dragged into the criminal case. And, even if you do have a clearance, it's likely that your info is at the bottom of a list of hundreds (thousands?) of other clients. Also, considering how long the affidavit is (60 pages!) it must have taken weeks to draft / finalize / approve, which means the evidence that was gathered to support it would come from an even earlier time. The feds might have continued gathering info, but at some point they run into diminishing returns. No guarantees, of course, but being at the bottom of the list, if you're even on it at all, is better than other scenarios. Of course, if you were a regular, with lots of visits and Zelle transactions, your exposure (no pun intended) will be higher.

FWIW, most mongers have screwed up at some point. Hopefully it's not too serious and can serve as a learning experience. Trading PII for access to pussy is a risky proposition. Too risky for me, others can decide for themselves.

**BravoFox** · 11-10-23 15:11

Originally Posted by BobORama [View Original Post]

Only a matter of time before this all blows over. The owners will likely not face any jail time, at least not for prostitution or human trafficking. Just look at Wikipedia on Prostitution in the US: "Prostitution is illegal in the vast majority of the United States as a result of state laws rather than federal laws". There's no reason for federal agencies, like the DOJ and DHS, to get involved with suspected prostitution, as that's relegated to the state level. So now all they've got is human trafficking. But good luck getting those Korean women to testify. It should be noted that not a single news article mentioned that the authorities took these Asian women in for questioning. When you don't even have your main source of evidence in human trafficking cases (in this case, the women), what else have you got? Not much, so the cases will likely be tossed.

At best, they can probably hit the owners with money laundering or racketeering. So, some jail time is possible. But not much.

New agencies will pop up using different names. Probably run by the same people.

People on the so-called client list are safe. Having your name on a list is not evidence of a crime committed. Even sending text messages discussing payment for sex is not sufficient. They would need to catch you in the act to prove you engaged in prostitution. The agencies are not sting operations. There are no cameras set up inside the apartments.

Rebrands, new crews, websites and locations should do the trick. No way human trafficking sticks. All the girls I have seen took this as a job like any other, but this one pays a lot more. Thinking this has to do with Politics and elections right now. By next year it's going to be all about Fentanyl crisis.

**JmSuttr** · 11-10-23 15:10

Originally Posted by BobORama [View Original Post]

Only a matter of time before this all blows over. The owners will likely not face any jail time, at least not for prostitution or human trafficking. Just look at Wikipedia on Prostitution in the US: "Prostitution is illegal in the vast majority of the United States as a result of state laws rather than federal laws". There's no reason for federal agencies, like the DOJ and DHS, to get involved with suspected prostitution, as that's relegated to the state level. So now all they've got is human trafficking. But good luck getting those Korean women to testify. It should be noted that not a single news article mentioned that the authorities took these Asian women in for questioning. When you don't even have your main source of evidence in human trafficking cases (in this case, the women), what else have you got? Not much, so the cases will likely be tossed.

At best, they can probably hit the owners with money laundering or racketeering. So, some jail time is possible. But not much.

New agencies will pop up using different names. Probably run by the same people.

People on the so-called client list are safe. Having your name on a list is not evidence of a crime committed. Even sending text messages discussing payment for sex is not sufficient. They would need to catch you in the act to prove you engaged in prostitution. The agencies are not sting operations. There are no cameras set up inside the apartments.

As I posted earlier, while it's unlikely that clients will get caught up in the criminal case, anyone who has a security clearance may still have cause for concern. That means govt employees and contractors, of which I'm sure some are on the client list, are potentially at risk.

Two things could happen: A willful or "accidental" release of client info, or a behind the scenes sharing of info with security clearance adjudication agencies. At this point there's no way to know if either of those would happen, but any client who tried to dispute or challenge might have to go public to do so, which carries its own set of problems. This is likely more of a concern in the VA and DC area than it is in MA, but still too early to sound the "all clear" signal.

About the defendants, I've only skimmed the publicly released info, but I've seen charges related to trafficking, money laundering, and identity theft. Activity that might ordinarily fall under state laws gets bumped up to the federal level once it crosses state / intl borders, or otherwise involves interstate commerce (which includes a wide range of things). Hard to say what kind of sentences they're facing as a lot will depend on how much money they're alleged to have laundered. And, while I haven't seen specifics, I wouldn't be surprised to see a denial of bail, or a really high bail amount, based on the possibility of flight risk.

About the alleged "trafficking" victims, the feds will likely roll out a whole host of carrot-and-stick incentives. For example, if any of the women acted as on-site mamasans (holding $, or any kind of management activity), they could be charged as a co-conspirator. Someone like that would be a good target to flip in exchange for a plea deal. For other women, allowing them to remain in the US (carrot) vs deportation (stick) is a likely tactic. Hard to say what any individual woman will do, but it only takes one or two for the "trafficking" charges to stick. And it's also normal practice to not put all of your evidence into a publicly available affidavit. I'm guessing that interviews of clients and providers have already taken place, but that info is not required to be disclosed unless the case goes to trial AND a specific individual is on the witness list.

Lots of stuff yet to unfold. Stay tuned!

P.S. Will new agencies pop up? Absolutely! The world's oldest profession is resilient in the extreme. Run by the same people? Highly risky for them unless they run things from outside the US, in a country where extradition is unlikely. Repeat offenders in the federal system tend to get slammed pretty hard.