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  1. #4324
    Quote Originally Posted by Max#01  [View Original Post]
    Interesting point of view. Having been in that world in previous lives, they are overstating, in this context, the connection between espionage and AAMPs. Sex used as an espionage tool usually involves one person and takes place after a relationship has been built over a period of time, such as Swallwell's Chinese girlfriend. I can't imagine building up the kind of relationship with even the most gorgeous AAMP girl to the point where you would give her classified documents. Also, the situation has to be blackmailable. Until the Trump era, most espionage was committed out of greed. A foreign intelligence service would really have to have the right girls seducing the right people for a long time to get to the point that they would need money to support their hobby. If these AAMPs were really being used as an intelligence collection front, individual girls would stay in one location for longer than a couple of weeks and they would have to be trained foreign intelligence agents.
    My 2 c is that is that the RISK of this being an intel blackmail operation is too high for the investigators to resist given the locations and clientele, so they're going that route to make sure and justify their unusually detailed prosecution. As far as whether this really was an operation, well, call me a bit skeptical. The Chinese idea seems far-fetched: Koreans getting in bed with Chinese intel? Sure about that? It's more plausible that it's a mafia style extortion op if anything. BUT wouldn't we hear about it if that was the case?

  2. #4323
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1183
    Quote Originally Posted by JsppsgFun4  [View Original Post]
    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...234873115/amp/

    Interesting take from a former federal prosecutor. Hinting at what he believes is the underlying reasons behind what happened yesterday.
    Interesting point of view. Having been in that world in previous lives, they are overstating, in this context, the connection between espionage and AAMPs. Sex used as an espionage tool usually involves one person and takes place after a relationship has been built over a period of time, such as Swallwell's Chinese girlfriend. I can't imagine building up the kind of relationship with even the most gorgeous AAMP girl to the point where you would give her classified documents. Also, the situation has to be blackmailable. Until the Trump era, most espionage was committed out of greed. A foreign intelligence service would really have to have the right girls seducing the right people for a long time to get to the point that they would need money to support their hobby. If these AAMPs were really being used as an intelligence collection front, individual girls would stay in one location for longer than a couple of weeks and they would have to be trained foreign intelligence agents.

  3. #4322
    You're not thinking clearly. Releasing names of people who never made appointments, never committed a crime, would be a disaster. If you actually saw a provider between the dates listed, you should be worried. If you sent them info, but never paid for sex, there's nothing to worry. They would need records from email and phone to even prove you were the one who sent the info. If you did go to these locations, you are on camera going to a known location for illegal paid sex. Simple as that. Who knows how they will decide which men they prosecute? Maybe big names, maybe little, maybe a mix of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by JacobsPatrick  [View Original Post]
    They have names, addresses, telephone numbers, work information and driver's licences. Even if you never made an appointment, it's loss to be outed for most.

  4. #4321
    Quote Originally Posted by CobraGuy  [View Original Post]
    They go after drug users to identify the drug pushers. Hold a charge over your head and you will tell all you know about who you know. You can likely substitute drug user with any other criminal action. Like maybe John's?
    Yes, that's right and that's what they did in the last year to build a case.

    But now that the operation is over and the drug dealers (using the analogy) are caught, why go after the drug users?

  5. #4320

    BEG and BTT

    Quote Originally Posted by IceCityX1221  [View Original Post]
    Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.

    Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.
    It was BEG and BTT. Read the charging document that has been provided in the thread.

  6. #4319
    Quote Originally Posted by Tadalagash  [View Original Post]
    Forgive my naivety and simpleton mind. .

    But what is the difference between Drug Dealers / drug users and Agency Owners / Johns?

    Since when did the Feds or LEO's go after drug users?? Johns don't make money from these ' shady' activities just like the poor drug users. Unless their is an ulterior motive to go after the Johns since they are affluent people (given the expense) and being WHITES from upper middle class.
    They go after drug users to identify the drug pushers. Hold a charge over your head and you will tell all you know about who you know. You can likely substitute drug user with any other criminal action. Like maybe John's?

  7. 11-09-23 15:26

    Reason
    Saw post about it.

  8. #4318
    Quote Originally Posted by WillGuyMar  [View Original Post]
    It was BEG and BTT because they were run by the same people in Boston. Not saying your source is wrong, but the charging document provides clarification. Fwiw, it doesn't mention SAG / LLVA and their affiliate in NY's site is still up. Even tweeted recently. They didn't require near the info BEG asked.
    Forgive my naivety and simpleton mind. .

    But what is the difference between Drug Dealers / drug users and Agency Owners / Johns?

    Since when did the Feds or LEO's go after drug users?? Johns don't make money from these ' shady' activities just like the poor drug users. Unless their is an ulterior motive to go after the Johns since they are affluent people (given the expense) and being WHITES from upper middle class.

  9. #4317
    Quote Originally Posted by IceCityX1221  [View Original Post]
    Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.

    Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.
    It was BEG and BTT because they were run by the same people in Boston. Not saying your source is wrong, but the charging document provides clarification. Fwiw, it doesn't mention SAG / LLVA and their affiliate in NY's site is still up. Even tweeted recently. They didn't require near the info BEG asked.

  10. #4316

    Monopoly monsoon game

    Quote Originally Posted by GolfGod69  [View Original Post]
    Looks like it's back to AMPs for a while. SA, LLVA, and AG have all said they don't save customer information for everyone's safety so, hopefully that's true.
    Most of them don't save, but hard to tell for discreetstory cas their site is still up and they have the hardest / strictest screening protocols and can be used to BL / hold against clients that are bad if not properly handled by management.

  11. #4315

    BEG nova game

    Quote Originally Posted by IceCityX1221  [View Original Post]
    Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.

    Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.
    Site seems still up at this point and one of the wagyus from NYC is making her tour at beg now so we can visualize the power effects soon.

  12. #4314

    Rolling stone article

    Quote Originally Posted by JsppsgFun4  [View Original Post]
    Reading over the charging document. What stood out is how much information was put in this document. DOJ is / was under no obligation to do that in the charging document. This was done to send a message to all involved. Put it another way the information within that document is likely just the tip of the iceberg and what they were willing to publicly reveal at this time. Scary times indeed.

    Stay safe.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...234873115/amp/

    Interesting take from a former federal prosecutor. Hinting at what he believes is the underlying reasons behind what happened yesterday.

  13. #4313

    The recent news

    Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.

    Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.

  14. #4312
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1183
    Quote Originally Posted by Almel89  [View Original Post]
    How fucked are any of us if the client list is revealed, say you're one of those clients who was never "interviewed" by the agents but still on the list. Would we be getting an agent coming to visit, a call, anything? Would it end up on our records as a charge?

    I'm pretty sure as long as you don't say anything or get busted in the act you're fine, but I'm not too sure about the rest.
    The Little Black Book was released for political purposes. My memory is fuzzy, but I'm not aware that anyone in the Black Book was ever prosecuted. As a mater of fact, they thinking about prosecuting the agency owner and her lawyers of destroying evidence because they shredded a good portion of the book's contents.

  15. #4311
    Quote Originally Posted by Max#01  [View Original Post]
    The client list will be revealed if someone leaks it. It would have to be politically expedient to do so. If there are conservative Christian politicians or a presidential candidate on the list, you can bet that would be reason alone to leak the list. I'd be willing to bet that dozens of "news" agencies have already submitted FOIA requests. The FOIA requests will be denied because it's an ongoing investigation. But, insider zealots don't have any constraints. Anybody remember the "Little Black Book" in Frederick 20 years ago?

    https://www.fredericknewspost.com/a-...98e2fe206.html
    How fucked are any of us if the client list is revealed, say you're one of those clients who was never "interviewed" by the agents but still on the list. Would we be getting an agent coming to visit, a call, anything? Would it end up on our records as a charge?

    I'm pretty sure as long as you don't say anything or get busted in the act you're fine, but I'm not too sure about the rest.

  16. #4310

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by JsppsgFun4  [View Original Post]
    Reading over the charging document. What stood out is how much information was put in this document. DOJ is / was under no obligation to do that in the charging document. This was done to send a message to all involved. Put it another way the information within that document is likely just the tip of the iceberg and what they were willing to publicly reveal at this time. Scary times indeed.

    Stay safe.
    A message to not only to customers of this agency, but to others here and elsewhere. The DC area connection ensured the media would cover this. Very little detail on actual trafficking details but plenty of detail regarding how thorough the investigation was.

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