Agency Discussion and Reviews

[Bob O Rama]

Check out paragraph 71 of the report (1st paragraph of page 41):

"Investigators have identified a number of deposits from various covid related relief funds flowing into the accounts, as well as some cash, money order, and P2 P payments, on a much smaller scale than the check funding movement. ".

Just a guess, but it's possible they were targeted for misusing covid relief funds. We all know full well that the government isn't interested in "saving" these women. But when you steal money from them, you certainly get their attention.

[Almel89]

I'm not saying it will definitely happen, but anyone who's ever had a clearance knows it can be put at risk over non-criminal issues. If the list is (oops, my bad!) leaked, or if it's shared with other govt agencies using "national security" as the justification, that could be a problem.

So basically as long as you don't have a clearance or aren't high up in any organization / company there's a good chance they won't come for you as they're looking to punish people up the totem pole?

That and given the precedent of the DC madam scandal where that lost was never leaked there's a good chance that won't happen either?

[Max #01]

My 2 c is that is that the RISK of this being an intel blackmail operation is too high for the investigators to resist given the locations and clientele, so they're going that route to make sure and justify their unusually detailed prosecution. As far as whether this really was an operation, well, call me a bit skeptical. The Chinese idea seems far-fetched: Koreans getting in bed with Chinese intel? Sure about that? It's more plausible that it's a mafia style extortion op if anything. BUT wouldn't we hear about it if that was the case?

We also have to keep in mind that these were DHS cops and not "real" cops. DHS is in the threat business and how they continue to get our taxpayer dollars is to create threats that only they can eliminate.

The only way I could imagine this intelligence scenario going down is something like this:

1. Guy with clearance visits AAMP.

2. AAMP big bosses know he has a clearance and puts on an extortion scheme: "Pay up or we tell your commander. "

3. Guy runs out of money.

4. Guy sells secrets to restore positive cash flow.

Great stuff for TV.

[Max #01]

I'm not saying it will definitely happen, but anyone who's ever had a clearance knows it can be put at risk over non-criminal issues. If the list is (oops, my bad!) leaked, or if it's shared with other govt agencies using "national security" as the justification, that could be a problem.

More likely to come up in a PR polygraph, especially a full-scope lifestyle version or in a reinvestigation in the "moral turpitude" realm.

[JmSuttr]

Forgive my naivety and simpleton mind. .

But what is the difference between Drug Dealers / drug users and Agency Owners / Johns?

Since when did the Feds or LEO's go after drug users?? Johns don't make money from these ' shady' activities just like the poor drug users. Unless their is an ulterior motive to go after the Johns since they are affluent people (given the expense) and being Whites from upper middle class.

Things that used to be classified as garden variety prostitution or pimping have gained new life, and been elevated in status, using the trafficking label. That's not to say that real trafficking doesn't exist, only that the label is now being used as a pretext to turn what would previously have been shrugged over into an "OMG, this is horrible" kind of thing.

There is a shitload of state and federal dollars sloshing around and directed at task forces and other so-called anti-trafficking efforts. Prosecutions like this one get lots of publicity and ensure the flow of public money never dries up.

Your tax dollars at work! (sarc off).

[JmSuttr]

How fucked are any of us if the client list is revealed, say you're one of those clients who was never "interviewed" by the agents but still on the list. Would we be getting an agent coming to visit, a call, anything? Would it end up on our records as a charge?

I'm pretty sure as long as you don't say anything or get busted in the act you're fine, but I'm not too sure about the rest.

I'm not saying it will definitely happen, but anyone who's ever had a clearance knows it can be put at risk over non-criminal issues. If the list is (oops, my bad!) leaked, or if it's shared with other govt agencies using "national security" as the justification, that could be a problem.

[WillGuyMar]

Interesting point of view. Having been in that world in previous lives, they are overstating, in this context, the connection between espionage and AAMPs. Sex used as an espionage tool usually involves one person and takes place after a relationship has been built over a period of time, such as Swallwell's Chinese girlfriend. I can't imagine building up the kind of relationship with even the most gorgeous AAMP girl to the point where you would give her classified documents. Also, the situation has to be blackmailable. Until the Trump era, most espionage was committed out of greed. A foreign intelligence service would really have to have the right girls seducing the right people for a long time to get to the point that they would need money to support their hobby. If these AAMPs were really being used as an intelligence collection front, individual girls would stay in one location for longer than a couple of weeks and they would have to be trained foreign intelligence agents.

My 2 c is that is that the RISK of this being an intel blackmail operation is too high for the investigators to resist given the locations and clientele, so they're going that route to make sure and justify their unusually detailed prosecution. As far as whether this really was an operation, well, call me a bit skeptical. The Chinese idea seems far-fetched: Koreans getting in bed with Chinese intel? Sure about that? It's more plausible that it's a mafia style extortion op if anything. BUT wouldn't we hear about it if that was the case?

[Max #01]

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...234873115/amp/

Interesting take from a former federal prosecutor. Hinting at what he believes is the underlying reasons behind what happened yesterday.

Interesting point of view. Having been in that world in previous lives, they are overstating, in this context, the connection between espionage and AAMPs. Sex used as an espionage tool usually involves one person and takes place after a relationship has been built over a period of time, such as Swallwell's Chinese girlfriend. I can't imagine building up the kind of relationship with even the most gorgeous AAMP girl to the point where you would give her classified documents. Also, the situation has to be blackmailable. Until the Trump era, most espionage was committed out of greed. A foreign intelligence service would really have to have the right girls seducing the right people for a long time to get to the point that they would need money to support their hobby. If these AAMPs were really being used as an intelligence collection front, individual girls would stay in one location for longer than a couple of weeks and they would have to be trained foreign intelligence agents.

[RedRocks1968]

You're not thinking clearly. Releasing names of people who never made appointments, never committed a crime, would be a disaster. If you actually saw a provider between the dates listed, you should be worried. If you sent them info, but never paid for sex, there's nothing to worry. They would need records from email and phone to even prove you were the one who sent the info. If you did go to these locations, you are on camera going to a known location for illegal paid sex. Simple as that. Who knows how they will decide which men they prosecute? Maybe big names, maybe little, maybe a mix of both?

They have names, addresses, telephone numbers, work information and driver's licences. Even if you never made an appointment, it's loss to be outed for most.

[Member #6464]

They go after drug users to identify the drug pushers. Hold a charge over your head and you will tell all you know about who you know. You can likely substitute drug user with any other criminal action. Like maybe John's?

Yes, that's right and that's what they did in the last year to build a case.

But now that the operation is over and the drug dealers (using the analogy) are caught, why go after the drug users?

[DmvMack]

Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.

Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.

It was BEG and BTT. Read the charging document that has been provided in the thread.

[CobraGuy]

Forgive my naivety and simpleton mind. .

But what is the difference between Drug Dealers / drug users and Agency Owners / Johns?

Since when did the Feds or LEO's go after drug users?? Johns don't make money from these ' shady' activities just like the poor drug users. Unless their is an ulterior motive to go after the Johns since they are affluent people (given the expense) and being WHITES from upper middle class.

They go after drug users to identify the drug pushers. Hold a charge over your head and you will tell all you know about who you know. You can likely substitute drug user with any other criminal action. Like maybe John's?

[Member #6464]

It was BEG and BTT because they were run by the same people in Boston. Not saying your source is wrong, but the charging document provides clarification. Fwiw, it doesn't mention SAG / LLVA and their affiliate in NY's site is still up. Even tweeted recently. They didn't require near the info BEG asked.

Forgive my naivety and simpleton mind. .

But what is the difference between Drug Dealers / drug users and Agency Owners / Johns?

Since when did the Feds or LEO's go after drug users?? Johns don't make money from these ' shady' activities just like the poor drug users. Unless their is an ulterior motive to go after the Johns since they are affluent people (given the expense) and being WHITES from upper middle class.

[WillGuyMar]

Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.

Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.

It was BEG and BTT because they were run by the same people in Boston. Not saying your source is wrong, but the charging document provides clarification. Fwiw, it doesn't mention SAG / LLVA and their affiliate in NY's site is still up. Even tweeted recently. They didn't require near the info BEG asked.

[IronClad999]

Looks like it's back to AMPs for a while. SA, LLVA, and AG have all said they don't save customer information for everyone's safety so, hopefully that's true.

Most of them don't save, but hard to tell for discreetstory cas their site is still up and they have the hardest / strictest screening protocols and can be used to BL / hold against clients that are bad if not properly handled by management.