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  1. #4310

    BEG nova game

    Quote Originally Posted by IceCityX1221  [View Original Post]
    Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.

    Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.
    Site seems still up at this point and one of the wagyus from NYC is making her tour at beg now so we can visualize the power effects soon.

  2. #4309

    Rolling stone article

    Quote Originally Posted by JsppsgFun4  [View Original Post]
    Reading over the charging document. What stood out is how much information was put in this document. DOJ is / was under no obligation to do that in the charging document. This was done to send a message to all involved. Put it another way the information within that document is likely just the tip of the iceberg and what they were willing to publicly reveal at this time. Scary times indeed.

    Stay safe.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...234873115/amp/

    Interesting take from a former federal prosecutor. Hinting at what he believes is the underlying reasons behind what happened yesterday.

  3. #4308

    The recent news

    Messaged a girl I know who used to work for some of these agencies. Confirmed that BostonTopTen, SAG / LLVA, and maybe BEG were the ones targeted. She's worried about BEG because they used to be affiliated with BTT, but she hasn't been back in over a year because she thought Tysons / DC customers were too rough.

    Regardless it's going to be slow for a while because all agencies will be wary of sending girls here.

  4. #4307
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    Posts: 1208
    Quote Originally Posted by Almel89  [View Original Post]
    How fucked are any of us if the client list is revealed, say you're one of those clients who was never "interviewed" by the agents but still on the list. Would we be getting an agent coming to visit, a call, anything? Would it end up on our records as a charge?

    I'm pretty sure as long as you don't say anything or get busted in the act you're fine, but I'm not too sure about the rest.
    The Little Black Book was released for political purposes. My memory is fuzzy, but I'm not aware that anyone in the Black Book was ever prosecuted. As a mater of fact, they thinking about prosecuting the agency owner and her lawyers of destroying evidence because they shredded a good portion of the book's contents.

  5. #4306
    Quote Originally Posted by Max#01  [View Original Post]
    The client list will be revealed if someone leaks it. It would have to be politically expedient to do so. If there are conservative Christian politicians or a presidential candidate on the list, you can bet that would be reason alone to leak the list. I'd be willing to bet that dozens of "news" agencies have already submitted FOIA requests. The FOIA requests will be denied because it's an ongoing investigation. But, insider zealots don't have any constraints. Anybody remember the "Little Black Book" in Frederick 20 years ago?

    https://www.fredericknewspost.com/a-...98e2fe206.html
    How fucked are any of us if the client list is revealed, say you're one of those clients who was never "interviewed" by the agents but still on the list. Would we be getting an agent coming to visit, a call, anything? Would it end up on our records as a charge?

    I'm pretty sure as long as you don't say anything or get busted in the act you're fine, but I'm not too sure about the rest.

  6. #4305

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by JsppsgFun4  [View Original Post]
    Reading over the charging document. What stood out is how much information was put in this document. DOJ is / was under no obligation to do that in the charging document. This was done to send a message to all involved. Put it another way the information within that document is likely just the tip of the iceberg and what they were willing to publicly reveal at this time. Scary times indeed.

    Stay safe.
    A message to not only to customers of this agency, but to others here and elsewhere. The DC area connection ensured the media would cover this. Very little detail on actual trafficking details but plenty of detail regarding how thorough the investigation was.

  7. #4304
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    Posts: 1208
    Quote Originally Posted by Alien988  [View Original Post]
    The article claims they have a client list in the hundreds, I really don't think they are going to be spending the resources tracking down everyone to be questioned. Assuming everyone gets their own jury, lawyers, and judge you will see it will take years to prosecute everyone.
    The client list will be revealed if someone leaks it. It would have to be politically expedient to do so. If there are conservative Christian politicians or a presidential candidate on the list, you can bet that would be reason alone to leak the list. I'd be willing to bet that dozens of "news" agencies have already submitted FOIA requests. The FOIA requests will be denied because it's an ongoing investigation. But, insider zealots don't have any constraints. Anybody remember the "Little Black Book" in Frederick 20 years ago?

    https://www.fredericknewspost.com/a-...98e2fe206.html

  8. #4303

    Pii

    Quote Originally Posted by BushBaby  [View Original Post]
    And this is why giving up PII in the verification process is a no-no boys!
    Can't agree more. Never ever share those with any providers. There is no way they will be deleting PII after verification. Tbh I don't know how knowing your identity can possibly help them except for gaining a leverage, which could be used against you when shit hits the fan. And the agencies asking for LinkedIn / paystub info is plainly laughable. Feds can creat fake profiles and docs easily, they will get got if they feds want to target them.

  9. #4302

    Welp

    Looks like it's back to AMPs for a while. SA, LLVA, and AG have all said they don't save customer information for everyone's safety so, hopefully that's true.

  10. #4301

    Just being named is a loss

    Quote Originally Posted by Alien988  [View Original Post]
    The article claims they have a client list in the hundreds, I really don't think they are going to be spending the resources tracking down everyone to be questioned. Assuming everyone gets their own jury, lawyers, and judge you will see it will take years to prosecute everyone.
    They have names, addresses, telephone numbers, work information and driver's licences. Even if you never made an appointment, it's loss to be outed for most.

  11. #4300

    Apt vs Hotel

    This is also an example that while the apartment style locations are generally set up nicer, the hotel meets are far less risky. With a fixed location set-up it is just a matter of time before it is noticed and then very easy to surveille; whereas with the hotel meets despite to rooms not being the best, it's hard for LE to monitor as the girls are constantly moving.

  12. #4299

    STFU Yeah, But

    I like some of you know the STFU routine—simple. But I ask question to the legal eagles—.

    If some bunch of dumbass mongers fucks one of the working gals and gets interviewed by LE walking out of apartment and they spill the beans like these Boston idiots.

    Then, LE be watching real close while I walk in ands take my pictures and car plates like a real sting op.

    Then, I walks out of the apartment exact 1 hour later with my fly down smell like pussy and they try to interview me. I shuts the fuck up of course.

    Can LE nab me anyway cause I be visiting a suspected brothel?

  13. #4298
    Quote Originally Posted by ThrobbinWood  [View Original Post]
    You might check the recent busts in other cities. Cleveland maybe. Whud-ya-gunna-do if they stop by your house to ask questions of you? Tell your wife they have the wrong address!
    The article claims they have a client list in the hundreds, I really don't think they are going to be spending the resources tracking down everyone to be questioned. Assuming everyone gets their own jury, lawyers, and judge you will see it will take years to prosecute everyone.

  14. #4297

    100% This

    Quote Originally Posted by FourNick8  [View Original Post]
    I have to contradict you here. If you are a Fed, Military, or politician this can end you career without a conviction. If they have your PII associated with requesting and acceptation paid sex along with violating human trafficking statutes then your security clearance is gone as well as your career.
    They don't even have to talk to you directly. They can and probably will report information to your following agency, branch, whatever once they have it.

    It says in the document too that customers were not named because they wanted to maintain anonymity but because their investigation was still ongoing. It could be a while until we really see the impact of this. Especially when they have hundreds of potential records to scrub through. I'd imagine they would want to get all their ducks in a row first and then carry out the punishment in mass.

  15. #4296
    Quote Originally Posted by ThrobbinWood  [View Original Post]
    You might check the recent busts in other cities. Cleveland maybe. Whud-ya-gunna-do if they stop by your house to ask questions of you? Tell your wife they have the wrong address!
    Everything I said was true. You probably aren't going to get arrested, but you may get extorted, blackmailed, and / or potentially exposed so you can flip on the agency (like the literal affidavit says). I'm not trying to underplay the risk, rather get people to understand what the actual risk is so we can stop misinformation and fear mongering. If you'll notice, the document says that the people were simply observed going in and out of the apartments and that upon interviewing them, they spilled the beans that they purchased sex. Arguably, the whole case is really built around the evidence that the mongers provided; the rest is circumstantially corroborated by the monger testimony or money laundering charges on the owners which can't be directly tied to the prostitution itself.

    There is always risk and we should never downplay it. Be smart, be safe, and don't talk to the cops.

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