Agency Discussion and Reviews

[Almel89]

So it seems SA and LLVA's site is down.

Looks like that's it for Korean BBQ in NOVA.

[Almel89]

Looks like they setup surveillance at the locations and ambushed John's coming out to flip them. Landlord probably got fed up with the foot traffic.

Everyone needs to watch this.

https://youtu.be/RkN4duV4ia0?si=M9XATaWOsdGPh8Qd

Remember if they talk to you, shut the fuck up.

[Grafenberg]

They can't arrest you for your information being in the "black book"

They can charge you, publish your name, and waste lots of money in lawyer fees. Possibly lose your job and cause relationship issues. The process is the punishment.

[Alien988]

The charging document;.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...thel-ring-case

Is an interesting read. I identifies specific escort addresses in Tysons and Fairfax under surveillance, lists the girls on the current BEG webpage, and has text screenshots from handlers to mongers. They have 20 monger insiders helping out with the investigation and they claim to have identified Politicians, Military Officers, and Security Clearance holders.

I know first hand the little dick Federal LE loves to bust other Feds that have dirty hobbies. If I were still a Fed or a Contractor, or Military, would suggest you brush up your resume. Glad now I didn't join BEG.

Looks like they setup surveillance at the locations and ambushed John's coming out to flip them. Landlord probably got fed up with the foot traffic.

[DMV Average Joe]

They even pull out of Boston too. They probably going to wait to everything cool down.

Those BIG fishes w / multiple locations, across states are going to lay low for now. So if you are really itching, go to local stand alone shops / small fish.

[FourNick8]

They can't arrest you for your information being in the "black book"; they can only arrest you for being caught directly in the act or explicitly saying it in communication (even this is suspect sometimes). The worry is that your private information being known to law enforcement can allow them to investigate you or potentially even blackmail you. It's unlikely they arrest you because you can't give them anything more than the operation itself in which you have probably only interacted with the girls and a handler. Being a nameless john is a good thing in this situation since you really don't have any pull to be flipped into anything else.

Very rarely do you see customer arrests because LEO isn't super interested in arresting johns, unless there is strong evidence of coerced trafficking, underage girls, or violence on the part of the johns. Again, it's hard to prove, bad for optics, and bad politically so they will usually just shut down the places, pass around some fines (and maybe some jail time) to operators, and sweep it away.

I have to contradict you here. If you are a Fed, Military, or politician this can end you career without a conviction. If they have your PII associated with requesting and acceptation paid sex along with violating human trafficking statutes then your security clearance is gone as well as your career.

[LoveDemAzn]

Both SAG NoVA sites are dust. Perhaps they pulled out the area bc of the news. Election szn, sucks but this stuff happens. BEG always wanted too much info so I never screened with them.

They even pull out of Boston too. They probably going to wait to everything cool down.

[FourNick8]

The charging document;.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...thel-ring-case

Is an interesting read. I identifies specific escort addresses in Tysons and Fairfax under surveillance, lists the girls on the current BEG webpage, and has text screenshots from handlers to mongers. They have 20 monger insiders helping out with the investigation and they claim to have identified Politicians, Military Officers, and Security Clearance holders.

I know first hand the little dick Federal LE loves to bust other Feds that have dirty hobbies. If I were still a Fed or a Contractor, or Military, would suggest you brush up your resume. Glad now I didn't join BEG.

[Xonms]

Should I delete my burner number? I'm really freaking out. I never used BEG but can they find other Asian agencies?

[Derilious89]

It also doesn't talk about any customer arrests. Maybe the list had too may well connected gentlemen so they decided against that kind of a sting.

They can't arrest you for your information being in the "black book"; they can only arrest you for being caught directly in the act or explicitly saying it in communication (even this is suspect sometimes). The worry is that your private information being known to law enforcement can allow them to investigate you or potentially even blackmail you. It's unlikely they arrest you because you can't give them anything more than the operation itself in which you have probably only interacted with the girls and a handler. Being a nameless john is a good thing in this situation since you really don't have any pull to be flipped into anything else.

Very rarely do you see customer arrests because LEO isn't super interested in arresting johns, unless there is strong evidence of coerced trafficking, underage girls, or violence on the part of the johns. Again, it's hard to prove, bad for optics, and bad politically so they will usually just shut down the places, pass around some fines (and maybe some jail time) to operators, and sweep it away.

[KylerMurray]

Both SAG NoVA sites are dust. Perhaps they pulled out the area bc of the news. Election szn, sucks but this stuff happens. BEG always wanted too much info so I never screened with them.

Here is a quote from the news article. Is there any chance that the hard drive with all the info was programed to self destruct when the raid started? Not!

"The investigation began with a tip from local law enforcement last summer, he said. The Lees allegedly required clients to verify their identities by sharing their driver's license photo, employer information and credit card number, as well as paying a monthly fee. ".

It also doesn't talk about any customer arrests. Maybe the list had too may well connected gentlemen so they decided against that kind of a sting.

[Bush Baby]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local...ss-va/3184748/

FYI, taking a break!

And this is why giving up PII in the verification process is a no-no boys!

[JustJohn007]

Talking about "sister agencies" is frankly idle speculation that does nobody any favors considering the crackdowns going on here or elsewhere. It seems people got complacent after warnings about a coming storm didn't come to pass right away.

I agree with the need for discretion regardless of crackdowns anywhere. Sensitive information is best sent via PM with more general info posted on the threads.

[KOF96]

Had been a regular at the former BL (and sister agency whose name escapes me) years ago but only verified at one k girl agency currently. XOC no longer an option and JM too risky to be a dud at current prices.

Anyone know if some of these new agencies have bookers connected to BL? Hoping to re-establish myself without crazy intrusive screening.

Talking about "sister agencies" is frankly idle speculation that does nobody any favors considering the crackdowns going on here or elsewhere. It seems people got complacent after warnings about a coming storm didn't come to pass right away.

[AznAficianado]

As if we needed any more reason to abandon common sense and not release all of our personal information to these agencies. But too many of us, despite maintaining strict privacy on this site and everywhere else, gladly comply with these agencies and now the market has accepted this as the standard. Still plenty of providers and even some agencies out there who don't require such unreasonable screening. Remember, just a few short years ago we didn't have this unreasonable screening and the market worked just fine.