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  1. #38754
    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWally  [View Original Post]
    Hi, I hate to to bring bad news but felt it responsible to bring some awareness to this. This morning (Nov 8) 3 brothel owners were arrested (2 in Boston, 1 in Torrance) and while the CNN article doesn't talk about it, the DOJ website confirms this is an Asian agency operating in Massachusetts and Tysons Virginia. For reasons I will describe, this may affect Socal in the future. Read here:

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/t...rothel-network

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/polit...sts/index.html

    Some facts from their website, which all appear credible:

    The two websites were bostontopten10.com and browneyesgirlsva. Blog, the first of which is already domain seized.

    DOJ was tipped off starting last year in the summer of 2022. They noticed these appointments in phones they put under surveillance, and they interviewed 20 customers.

    They claim some of the customers were government officials, which is credible, which would also automatically explain why the phones were under surveillance (people were using their government work phone to visit the places). Or it could have been another reason, but there is no reason to doubt this since it is a minor detail.

    The three locations in question were Cambridge, Watertown, and Tysons (Virginia).

    The most expensive apartment rented was $3,664, and the owners often paid by turning cash into money orders and using the money orders to pay bills and rent (pretty smart actually!

    DOJ claims the price ranges from $350 to upwards of $600 per hour (Okay if true that's a bit steep but this place offered doubles so yeah that would do it).

    They went out of their way to emphasize this is a high end brothel with high end customers charging (relatively) top dollar. Not sure why but they repeated variations of this many times.

    The investigation is ongoing.

    Some of my own observations:

    Many girls who worked in Socal, when you look up their TER, often have worked in Tysons and East Coast. Often a few weeks or months before working the West Coast. So while there may be no direct affiliation at all (there probably isn't, they are probably just sharing girls between different businesses that refer each other), it means the network is exposed and DOJ has a lead to investigate completely different agencies.

    The reason I post this info here is for that reason. No Socal agencies are directly affected, but they have a lead. If the different businesses are isolated like "cells" enough, it can take time and DOJ might just take the lowest hanging fruit and move on. In past investigations, they could not scratch the surface other than take down a few closely linked agencies (ex: Seattle). And here we are today with way more agencies than years ago in the last local bust. It is expensive and time consuming. Of course it helps that some of their own employees were presumably caught with the evidence on government phones. DOJ employees LOVE prostitutes if you follow the news.

    I do have my suspicion that Hana in Socal is probably the leaser in other places in Socal (she is only indicted here for her role in Boston and Virginia). So there's that.

    By the way, even if and when they investigate other agencies, as you can see it can take a very long time, 6-18 months, to bear fruit. They have not indicted any girls or customers but say they are still investigating. But in past cases, it is not generally a good use of investigation time to indict them unless you are running a sting and can get the evidence quick and easy (I. E. It is ten times as much work to get good evidence without a sting and it is less likely to be good enough for court).

    You can read the 60 page affidavit here if you're curious. I've read many in the past and it's always fun because they have to spell all the facts out:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

    Very little is redacted so you can see actual text messages, addresses. One excerpt from the affidavit <the following are the DOJ officer's words, not mine:

    "As depicted above, women nicknamed "Kara," "Tina" and "Mimi" were offered to.

    The Customer A). I am aware that the reference above to "BB" is a term in the prostitution industry.

    That refers to sex without a condom, as evidenced by the Boston Brothel Phone clarifying in its.

    Subsequent text of "(BB = without CD" I am also aware that "GFE" refers to "GirlFriend.

    Experience" which provides a more intimate experience and blurs the boundaries between a.

    Financial transaction and a romantic relationship. Generally speaking, when hen the customers.

    Arrived at the apartment unit, they did not knock; the door was opened by an Asian female inside.

    Who was expecting them. ".

    <End transcript .

    I was enjoying reading their take on things. It *almost* sounded as if they personally visited several times to get serviced and corroborate the facts, but then again they claim to have interviewed 20 customers (including themselves? Jk).

    Please do not be too alarmed. This is normal and happens every few years. It is an inherent risk. Prostitution should be legalized and already is in many countries (and parts of the USA like Nevada) but it is what it is.
    There is a similar article in NorCal, I strongly believe all these K-Orgs are somewhat interconnected or different branches of the K-Orgs are. I am certain most law agency are well aware of the K-ORG in apartments, but right now its not a high priority. A good friend of mine has been warning me for a couple of years that one day this whole thing will come crashing down. I highly doubt it will be local PD that will do it, as its more or less out of sight out of mind. They will go after the guy picking up a SW in the wifes SUV. More than likely there are cops who are clients of K-Orgs. If / when it does come crashing down it will be at a federal level. When it really comes down to it I doubt they care what two consenting adults, but what it really comes down to is all the money that's changing hands and they get ZERO tax revenue out of it.

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/11/...fficking-ring/

    Next year is an election year, so it could be a "good time" for a show of force.

  2. #38753
    I didn't know prostitution is just a misdemeanor in Cali.

    Good info. Back to mongering.

  3. #38752
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsNotNothing2  [View Original Post]
    I feel like they fucked up by stepping in wealthier areas and into the suburbs. No one gives a fuck if the demographics are a minority unless some housewife or children start asking why the neighbor gets so much traffic. Police in downtown and in the ghetto's have bigger fish to fry. Torrance? You'll get ticketed for J-walking.
    Statistically, it's almost nothing. Back when marijuana was illegal everywhere, they arrested 820,000 people a year for marijuana (8. 2 million were arrested from 2001 to 2010 in the USA). Today, the USA arrests 70,000 a year for prostitution. The DOJ case involves 3 for "high end" prostitution, which is rare. So 3 people out of the 70,000 made the news. High end arrests make the news but are a drop in the bucket.

    The agencies are way safer than the average person picking a girl off the streets (you can read users on this site talking about it all the time). And having a network rating really helps with both safety (LE is not the main concern, your safety and the safety of the girl is) and service. And guy who misbehaves is cut out so it doesn't happen often, and no girl has ever run off with your money or scammed me, the worst case scenario is I don't like a girl. 34 out of 35 times I'd rate the girl a 7 or higher. It's all because of the system, other places don't even come close to that.

    Then there's the California factor, where it is just a misdemeanor (no you cannot lose your medical license. Not unless you were doing it with your own patient! Streetwalkers are now common in many downtown areas again because of the latest loosening of the law (they can no longer investigate someone for 'loitering' which ended up harassing some innocent women). Statistics also show they don't charge most people they arrest, and most people who are charged do not serve prison time. They are looking for rock solid cases with good evidence, or in the DOJ case someone that lured all their agents in with beautiful porn star experience women and they need to set an example. The DOJ will probably not charge their own employees. In past cases that made the news they were disciplined administratively because they don't want to lose employees. Hah!

    So yes there is always some risk, but it is very low and at least we aren't using drugs.

  4. #38751

    True

    Quote Originally Posted by KingsFoil  [View Original Post]
    Never Monger in Torrance. Just memorize that rule. There is a whole other world that excludes Torrance. You're missing nothing but a long drive by always skipping Torrance.

    Torrance is the Asian capital of we know what you do there but you don't do it here because we live here. Go next door.
    I feel like they fucked up by stepping in wealthier areas and into the suburbs. No one gives a fuck if the demographics are a minority unless some housewife or children start asking why the neighbor gets so much traffic. Police in downtown and in the ghetto's have bigger fish to fry. Torrance? You'll get ticketed for J-walking.

  5. #38750
    Quote Originally Posted by Goku17  [View Original Post]
    Even though the guy in Torrance got caught, I feel like we'll be ok. They have obvious hookers walking Figueroa street at 2-3 am in the morning and cops just drive by.
    Never Monger in Torrance. Just memorize that rule. There is a whole other world that excludes Torrance. You're missing nothing but a long drive by always skipping Torrance.

    Torrance is the Asian capital of we know what you do there but you don't do it here because we live here. Go next door.

  6. #38749
    Quote Originally Posted by AsianAssEater  [View Original Post]
    I would love to drop more reviews but since like 80 or 90% of girls I can't see because they can't take magnum. Anytime I discover a new girl who let's me go super Saiyan on her I let the board know.
    Go to Brazil and Colombia. Asians are built to serve Asians. And well. You know.

    I'm sure there are exceptions, and I'm sure everyone reading this is one.

  7. #38748

    They aren't fucking around

    Quote Originally Posted by NintyNine  [View Original Post]
    This DOJ report reads like a movie.

    They were following these guys around everywhere. You can imagine how many cameras the feds have set up in our area. Details about the LA operations must be fully known now.

    This is a relatively easy case for homeland security. All cooperating suspects, unlike drug dealers and other criminals.
    These weren't some local police busting an AMP. This was the feds and their investigation that started in 2020. With that much homework, going through trash, getting customers for interrogation, bank trails etc, there is virtually no way that guy in the report didn't have shops stood up in Los Angeles. Someone (s) definitely going to pay the piper. That said, the market and population for mongers is DEEP here. I would be surprised if they chose to prosecute johns. There's just really too many and California courts are backed up as is. Keep your nose clean, don't do anything stupid for your favorite girl I. E. Lease an apartment in your name for them to work out of etc.

  8. #38747
    Quote Originally Posted by Goku17  [View Original Post]
    Even though the guy in Torrance got caught, I feel like we'll be ok. They have obvious hookers walking Figueroa street at 2-3 am in the morning and cops just drive by.
    And let's not forget all the "spas" that may or may not look like a scene from 'Rush Hour 2'.

  9. #38746
    Quote Originally Posted by Goku17  [View Original Post]
    Even though the guy in Torrance got caught, I feel like we'll be ok. They have obvious hookers walking Figueroa street at 2-3 am in the morning and cops just drive by.
    I was going to say wasn't there a recent law that passed in CA easing up on it? But I think its mainly for those loitering types in the street.

  10. #38745
    Quote Originally Posted by LotusBoy  [View Original Post]
    Decided to ask the booker for a younger girl and he recommended I see Sunny. I went to a familiar location and waited for the okay. As I got the signal I went up to the room and I am happy to report back that Sunny is actually young and she is very cute. She is one of the cuter and younger girls that I have seen available. Will have to enjoy her while she is here. Her service is good too. She is skinny and had big D cups that are fun to suck and play with. She met me at the door in a cute schoolgirl outfit and heels. I was already drooling at the door since she looks like a college student to me. We start of with some nice gentle kissing then its quickly proceeds to DFK. We have a blue toast and we take a quick shower. Then its back to the bedroom. She had me sit on the side of the bed where she proceeded to give me a nice and long BBBJ. It felt so good I wanted to just let her keep going but seeing her ass and pussy in the mirror I had to fuck her. I pull her up and have her get into doggy and start fucking her. As I am fucking her she starts to get into and and starts pounding back. It felt so good. I couldn't last long and was about to cum so I have her turn around and give me a BBBJ and I cum in her mouth. She gives me a nice massage then we start kissing each other again. She is a good kisser and knows how to use her tongue. As I start to get hard again she gets on top and starts to slide on my cock getting me excited. She kept teasing me with the camel slide. Then she slides my cock inside and starts to grind on my cock. We go through missionary as well and I cum inside. I was spent. Have to thank the booker for not letting me down with the recommendation. I already booked another appointment for this weekend to play with her again. She is just too cute.
    Did she have any tattoos?

    Maybe we can I'd her by markings.

  11. #38744
    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWally  [View Original Post]
    Hi, I hate to to bring bad news but felt it responsible to bring some awareness to this. This morning (Nov 8) 3 brothel owners were arrested (2 in Boston, 1 in Torrance) and while the CNN article doesn't talk about it, the DOJ website confirms this is an Asian agency operating in Massachusetts and Tysons Virginia. For reasons I will describe, this may affect Socal in the future.
    Even though the guy in Torrance got caught, I feel like we'll be ok. They have obvious hookers walking Figueroa street at 2-3 am in the morning and cops just drive by.

  12. #38743
    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan1009  [View Original Post]
    Is it the Sunny with 34 DD cup?

    https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/sun2
    Also curious on this one! Plus this one.

    https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/bella3

    As a rule of thumb, if a girl is listed as 23 -- is it safe to say she's 30+?

    How about 22? Late 20's?

    21 = mid 20's?

    I hardly see any girls listed at 20.

  13. #38742
    Quote Originally Posted by OcAmper  [View Original Post]
    So far, I don't think I've ever had a suspicion that a lady is not doing this on her own accord. It seems, all do it for their own specific reasons. Some are just wanting quick money. I can think of one, that has a gambling problem. I'm pretty sure, gambling is hardly rare.

    I can think of another, still in the business, looks incredible. She was indy, during one of my many appointments in her apartment, I asked her for a glass of water. She indicated to just get a cup from the kitchen and grab my own water. While opening the cabinets looking for a glass, found a clear glass pipe with white residue in it, at least that is what I recall, some 20 years later. So, she has a substance issue, which also is probably hardly uncommon.
    However, it would also be very likely some girls are being 'promised' things or opportunities are being dangled.

    IE: hey I can sponsor you through a shell company to get sponsored for a green card, blah blah blah.

    I actually don't understand how the dynamic works tbh.

    Or like do the bosses / pimps hold onto the girls passport when they arrive? And they got to work off a 'debt' per se to get back their life?

    I wonder if any of these girls actually have long term plans. Because the chances of them finding a boyfriend / husband through this line of work is slim to none.

    Their minds will be warped to hell after they pass their prime. I'm not sure if any these girls actually understand the long term implications of their jobs.

    They've in essence sold their souls .

    And in some part, the guys as well to some degree. I'll admit.

  14. #38741

    D cup talents pool and New Sunny / Sun2 from Vegas

    So after seeing a new 34 DD cup pops up all inclusive, I had to do a digging and see if it is too good to be true.

    She moved from Vegasasian. Club and had 4 reviews on TER with prob 6 month of stay in Vegas, for me that's a bit of low.

    https://www.theeroticreview.com/revi...8243221-386952

    Got a mixed review from the K-BBFS forum on Vegas forum, one say cute, one say nice tits, one say stocky and so so service and one said young.

    Her pic on VAC https://www.vegasasian.club/sunny did not look the same as advertised in LA bookers (multiple bookers book her).

    So fellas, anyone seen her today as her 1st day start? What's your take vs their reviews and in real life?

    It's sad that many of D cup ladies (Iris, niya, viki, kelly, leah, Juni, June, Kona and Cindy) these days are not up to the standards as Ina and Maia.

    With all time favorite Allie gone, even though she is a bit out of shape now but still fun.

    I guess NNN is really going to happen, what's NNN you ask? NO NUT November, LOL.

    Remember back a year or so, k-pussy thanks giving break, LOL.

    With what's happening on east coast, everyone should stay alert, drive around before you park and wait in your car don't loiter / walk around looking at your phone, if you see anyone in a van or car looking suspicious, watch out.

    Wearing a mask would help if they take pictures and since it is covid era, mask is normal, LOL.

    Stay safe and play safe gents!!

  15. #38740
    Quote Originally Posted by NovaThings  [View Original Post]
    Hi all. As my name tag indicates I knew about the VA locations. That being said, the fact that they have interviewed insiders means there's more to come IMO. That area is a hot bed for older LA / NY / TX talent so I assume we are going to get an influx of talent because that area was getting all the jgirls that are now coming here so the timing makes even more sense. There's several agencies in that area so I assume they all have gone dark which means we may get a dramatic rise in talent and hopefully that decreases donations. I also read / saw elsewhere Chinas economy is crashing and I've seen a rise in younger talent from that pool. With that all being said, whoever mentioned the feds will go as far as they need to depending on what their ultimate goal I. This whole hobby is a rabbit hole and if a politician feels they need leverage by pushing further don't be surprised if this grows into 2024. So this may be a forced no nut November after all. Keep safe out there but I'm officially spooked enough to wait.
    Perfect reason why you never use you're personal info to get vetted or screened!

    That knock on the door or they visit you at you work place.

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