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11-08-23 23:41 #38739Senior Member

Posts: 7232That's how the Seattle bust happen they followed many people around and many "flipped" for the lessor charges!
Originally Posted by NintyNine
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Many Dr's, Dentists, Attorney's, professional job holders, students, Store Mg's, and just your everyday "joe" working a 9-5 job.
OUR shitting in there pants right now!
Saying F*ck my marriage is gone, My business and medical license is gone, I'm fired from my accounting job, etc.
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11-08-23 23:11 #38738Senior Member

Posts: 1387Which Sunny is it?
Is it the Sunny with 34 DD cup?
Originally Posted by LotusBoy
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https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/sun2
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11-08-23 22:37 #38737Senior Member

Posts: 785The factors I know of are: HIV, Asia, age, and competition. HIV is still a risk but it is less prevalent and no longer a death sentence. In Asia, bb is common enough. So there are girls who offered bb in Asia (always some girls do some girls don't), and they have to decide if they will still offer it here. Older women are more likely to offer bb, it's one way to stay in business and attract customers. Lastly, when young attractive girls start offering it, others consider it.
Originally Posted by OcAmper
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There are many girls who are on the borderline and will 'debut' bb months or years after starting. Many girls don't officially offer it but will selectively offer it to regulars they consider clean (instead of bb 100's of guys, just bb dozens who are steady income anyways).
In the agency I use, half the girls offer bb. There is no agency policy on it, it is up to the girl (they even say it is not promised, if the girl finds you dirty she won't). I can personally attest the girls are there of their own free will in terms of consent, but the problem is the legal definition works different. If you coerce someone to travel to do sex work, that is pimping and news headlines will blow it up to 'trafficking' even if the woman is coming so she can buy handbags (I know one girl where this is the only reason, she lives with her sister and works at her sister's restaurant so she doesn't even need extra work, just extra money). The law is really weird on this because it has nothing to do with consent but about enticement to travel and work.
As I've said in other posts, girls are recruited by word of mouth, including other girls who have worked.
Oh and now is the best time to remind everyone that the Gardasil9 vaccine is open to men. I paid for mine out of pocket, it prevents every strain of HPV that causes genital wart or cancer (cervical cancer being the most common). It is one very common but hidden std that is now entirely preventable.
I wrote a mini essay last week on why some girls work, how they are recruited, and why Korean girls are common for incall:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...cussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=6666618&viewfull=1#post6666618.
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11-08-23 22:31 #38736Senior Member

Posts: 2442Mimi CG in Ktown
Not worth it when she made her SoCal debut in SD at 320 all in. Definitely not worth the upcharge.
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11-08-23 21:50 #38735Senior Member

Posts: 794Consenting Adults
So far, I don't think I've ever had a suspicion that a lady is not doing this on her own accord. It seems, all do it for their own specific reasons. Some are just wanting quick money. I can think of one, that has a gambling problem. I'm pretty sure, gambling is hardly rare.
Originally Posted by LoveFromFrank
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I can think of another, still in the business, looks incredible. She was indy, during one of my many appointments in her apartment, I asked her for a glass of water. She indicated to just get a cup from the kitchen and grab my own water. While opening the cabinets looking for a glass, found a clear glass pipe with white residue in it, at least that is what I recall, some 20 years later. So, she has a substance issue, which also is probably hardly uncommon.
Those are just a couple of examples, why they do this, and how it is their choice and not the booker / pimp forcing them.
But, that brings us to BBFS and CIP. Not sure what all is at play on this. Definitely, customers bear some if not most of the responsibility. Bookers could argue, only responding to market demand, therefore only employing ladies that will offer these services.
Basically, the ladies are in the business by their own choice. BBFS with or without CIP, not sure how much choice they have.
In the end, one can bet, it is very likely there are cases in various stages here in the LA / OC area. All the agencies employee ladies that have traveled to this area from other areas throughout the country. So, it's coming here, probably soon, during this election year.
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11-08-23 21:45 #38734Senior Member

Posts: 284Thanks for the review and sounds like great time. Bellas pics look really good to me but I'm sure theres a good amount of P.S. Can you guess her age? Does she at least look youngish? I have this theory that girls who do duos disqualify them from being HYA LOL.
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11-08-23 21:39 #38733Senior Member

Posts: 785This is why they do stings because they need you to fill out a specific script saying you want sex acts for money and to take a step "in furtherance" such as meeting them at a location. It is a waste of time for them to barge in on two consenting adults and gather the evidence from scratch. With Korean agencies you can start playing before paying and there are no words exchange for the transaction. Money is lying around. So it would be a longshot for them where they would need to ahead of time set up hidden cameras in her room without her knowing and checking a lot of legal boxes. And then with one single bust they can't do any more because they're now exposed (and did not even catch the owner). Very Mission Impossible for what in California is just a misdemeanor. You would potentially have to bring it to trial without the cooperation of either customer or worker. So this is why they do stings instead.
Originally Posted by BobLove
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In this sense, yes this is "high end" compared to the $20/$40 sex you get off the street or truck stop. I have never heard of an agency charging much more than the Korean ones, the numbers just don't work, but sure a good freelancer like a decent porn star could.
To quote: "A prostitution violation requires some act, in addition to the agreement, committed within the state that is in furtherance of the commission of the act of prostitution by the person agreeing to engage in the act. ".
Note that this case has only been about pimping charges, which is "conspiracy to coerce and entice to travel to engage in illegal sexual activity provides". Customers are not subject to this more serious charge unless they start "self pimping" the girls.
Sugar daddy situations blur the line and they are reluctant to get involved (again, it is not practical to investigate and best you get is one case per investigation). I know two girls out of the agency on good terms (seen them many times to get to that point), so I suppose worst case that would work out. But one's married (I found out afterwards) and I'm not sure how to bring it up. I guess I'll pick the safer girl who does nothing but shop and live with her sister.
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11-08-23 20:40 #38732Senior Member

Posts: 133East coast situation
Hi all. As my name tag indicates I knew about the VA locations. That being said, the fact that they have interviewed insiders means there's more to come IMO. That area is a hot bed for older LA / NY / TX talent so I assume we are going to get an influx of talent because that area was getting all the jgirls that are now coming here so the timing makes even more sense. There's several agencies in that area so I assume they all have gone dark which means we may get a dramatic rise in talent and hopefully that decreases donations. I also read / saw elsewhere Chinas economy is crashing and I've seen a rise in younger talent from that pool. With that all being said, whoever mentioned the feds will go as far as they need to depending on what their ultimate goal I. This whole hobby is a rabbit hole and if a politician feels they need leverage by pushing further don't be surprised if this grows into 2024. So this may be a forced no nut November after all. Keep safe out there but I'm officially spooked enough to wait.
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11-08-23 19:28 #38731Regular Member

Posts: 14Sunny / Sun
Decided to ask the booker for a younger girl and he recommended I see Sunny. I went to a familiar location and waited for the okay. As I got the signal I went up to the room and I am happy to report back that Sunny is actually young and she is very cute. She is one of the cuter and younger girls that I have seen available. Will have to enjoy her while she is here. Her service is good too. She is skinny and had big D cups that are fun to suck and play with. She met me at the door in a cute schoolgirl outfit and heels. I was already drooling at the door since she looks like a college student to me. We start of with some nice gentle kissing then its quickly proceeds to DFK. We have a blue toast and we take a quick shower. Then its back to the bedroom. She had me sit on the side of the bed where she proceeded to give me a nice and long BBBJ. It felt so good I wanted to just let her keep going but seeing her ass and pussy in the mirror I had to fuck her. I pull her up and have her get into doggy and start fucking her. As I am fucking her she starts to get into and and starts pounding back. It felt so good. I couldn't last long and was about to cum so I have her turn around and give me a BBBJ and I cum in her mouth. She gives me a nice massage then we start kissing each other again. She is a good kisser and knows how to use her tongue. As I start to get hard again she gets on top and starts to slide on my cock getting me excited. She kept teasing me with the camel slide. Then she slides my cock inside and starts to grind on my cock. We go through missionary as well and I cum inside. I was spent. Have to thank the booker for not letting me down with the recommendation. I already booked another appointment for this weekend to play with her again. She is just too cute.
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11-08-23 18:33 #38730Senior Member

Posts: 843This DOJ report reads like a movie.
They were following these guys around everywhere. You can imagine how many cameras the feds have set up in our area. Details about the LA operations must be fully known now.
This is a relatively easy case for homeland security. All cooperating suspects, unlike drug dealers and other criminals.
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11-08-23 18:02 #38729Senior Member

Posts: 364Unfortunate
That blows to say the least. Everyone I've met this far has been a consenting adult and I think most of us, if not all, would not partake if these girls were not. People just making money in their own way and Uncle Sam gets salty because they don't get a cut. Truly unfortunate and I hope the girls at the apartments weren't paraded like Pablo Escobar when they got caught up.
Originally Posted by FreeWally
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11-08-23 17:33 #38728Senior Member

Posts: 1249No problem at all! Now that many girls allow video recording for tips, just tell the police that you are filming a porno and that is 100% legal.
Originally Posted by FreeWally
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11-08-23 17:17 #38727Senior Member

Posts: 843https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high...more-feds.html
Originally Posted by FreeWally
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I first saw this on cnbc, and I was fucking hoping it was a non-asian brothel being busted, but I soon had a feeling it was a korg getting busted, and I was right.
Korgs aren't even considered high end. They are more like middle class.
Well, at least all these high status people got to enjoy the Asian punani.
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11-08-23 16:55 #38726Senior Member

Posts: 785News
Hi, I hate to to bring bad news but felt it responsible to bring some awareness to this. This morning (Nov 8) 3 brothel owners were arrested (2 in Boston, 1 in Torrance) and while the CNN article doesn't talk about it, the DOJ website confirms this is an Asian agency operating in Massachusetts and Tysons Virginia. For reasons I will describe, this may affect Socal in the future. Read here:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/t...rothel-network
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/polit...sts/index.html
Some facts from their website, which all appear credible:
The two websites were bostontopten10.com and browneyesgirlsva. Blog, the first of which is already domain seized.
DOJ was tipped off starting last year in the summer of 2022. They noticed these appointments in phones they put under surveillance, and they interviewed 20 customers.
They claim some of the customers were government officials, which is credible, which would also automatically explain why the phones were under surveillance (people were using their government work phone to visit the places). Or it could have been another reason, but there is no reason to doubt this since it is a minor detail.
The three locations in question were Cambridge, Watertown, and Tysons (Virginia).
The most expensive apartment rented was $3,664, and the owners often paid by turning cash into money orders and using the money orders to pay bills and rent (pretty smart actually!
DOJ claims the price ranges from $350 to upwards of $600 per hour (Okay if true that's a bit steep but this place offered doubles so yeah that would do it).
They went out of their way to emphasize this is a high end brothel with high end customers charging (relatively) top dollar. Not sure why but they repeated variations of this many times.
The investigation is ongoing.
Some of my own observations:
Many girls who worked in Socal, when you look up their TER, often have worked in Tysons and East Coast. Often a few weeks or months before working the West Coast. So while there may be no direct affiliation at all (there probably isn't, they are probably just sharing girls between different businesses that refer each other), it means the network is exposed and DOJ has a lead to investigate completely different agencies.
The reason I post this info here is for that reason. No Socal agencies are directly affected, but they have a lead. If the different businesses are isolated like "cells" enough, it can take time and DOJ might just take the lowest hanging fruit and move on. In past investigations, they could not scratch the surface other than take down a few closely linked agencies (ex: Seattle). And here we are today with way more agencies than years ago in the last local bust. It is expensive and time consuming. Of course it helps that some of their own employees were presumably caught with the evidence on government phones. DOJ employees LOVE prostitutes if you follow the news.
I do have my suspicion that Hana in Socal is probably the leaser in other places in Socal (she is only indicted here for her role in Boston and Virginia). So there's that.
By the way, even if and when they investigate other agencies, as you can see it can take a very long time, 6-18 months, to bear fruit. They have not indicted any girls or customers but say they are still investigating. But in past cases, it is not generally a good use of investigation time to indict them unless you are running a sting and can get the evidence quick and easy (I. E. It is ten times as much work to get good evidence without a sting and it is less likely to be good enough for court).
You can read the 60 page affidavit here if you're curious. I've read many in the past and it's always fun because they have to spell all the facts out:
https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf
Very little is redacted so you can see actual text messages, addresses. One excerpt from the affidavit <the following are the DOJ officer's words, not mine:
"As depicted above, women nicknamed "Kara," "Tina" and "Mimi" were offered to.
The Customer A). I am aware that the reference above to "BB" is a term in the prostitution industry.
That refers to sex without a condom, as evidenced by the Boston Brothel Phone clarifying in its.
Subsequent text of "(BB = without CD" I am also aware that "GFE" refers to "GirlFriend.
Experience" which provides a more intimate experience and blurs the boundaries between a.
Financial transaction and a romantic relationship. Generally speaking, when hen the customers.
Arrived at the apartment unit, they did not knock; the door was opened by an Asian female inside.
Who was expecting them. ".
<End transcript .
I was enjoying reading their take on things. It *almost* sounded as if they personally visited several times to get serviced and corroborate the facts, but then again they claim to have interviewed 20 customers (including themselves? Jk).
Please do not be too alarmed. This is normal and happens every few years. It is an inherent risk. Prostitution should be legalized and already is in many countries (and parts of the USA like Nevada) but it is what it is.
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11-08-23 15:32 #38725Senior Member

Posts: 1027Hard to review because
I would love to drop more reviews but since like 80 or 90% of girls I can't see because they can't take magnum. Anytime I discover a new girl who let's me go super Saiyan on her I let the board know.
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