Non Pro's

[Blake37]

This. I make more then 150 k a year myself as well and I am not ever paying 1 k for a fucking hour LOL. There is simply no value in that what so ever! An hour of a girls time is simply not worth 1 k! I don't value orgasms to be worth anywhere near that. If we are talking 1 k then that money could be better well spent on Seeking where you will get multiple encounters from girls who aren't total pros and you can have chemistry with.

Similar boat here. I make good money these days, but don't want to spend it frivolously. I've gone to that level with porn stars, but there's a difference between spending 1 k to see Ariana Marie for a few hours and getting personal video and "civ" girls looking for 1 k. I've found there is little correlation between what they're asking for and the experience. Chemistry and clicking are still a factor for most girls you end up seeing.

I visit LA a few times a year and I find much better results down there than up here. Bigger pool of girls combined with the acting / modelling industry down there. Every girl up here is looking for 500 minimum these days, regardless of their looks or attitude. Similar in LA, but the difference is for 500 in LA I've had unrushed several hour arrangements with a super horny Asian gamer college girl or a literal runway model.

For context, if I look for girls in the Seattle area on Seeking in my age and body range I get a 3-4000 hits of which really only a few are active. In LA it's 10,000+ which is the max it displays. Hell, if I choose Latin / Hispanic there are more Latinas in the range then ALL girls up here.

I basically sub and scout Seeking for a month a couple of times a year up here and whenever I travel. I stay picky up here and save anything I don't spend for trips.

[ProJohn1]

I make way more than 150 a year. (double that.). And there in no way I'm paying 1 k! I'd go broke. LOL. 1 k is to much guys. I fucked in Miami for 4-5. Phoenix is 4 for a 21 yo (I gave extra for mail job cause I see her when I'm in town and she give raw). None of there's girls are with 1 k. I leaned that the hard way. They are mostly scammers and managed (many are). There are unicorns. The ones that will spend an afternoon / evening with you and fuck you more than once for 5. At 150 k a year you can't afford a 1 k fuck. Imo. But yes, tech has ruined the world.

This. I make more then 150 k a year myself as well and I am not ever paying 1 k for a fucking hour LOL. There is simply no value in that what so ever! An hour of a girls time is simply not worth 1 k! I don't value orgasms to be worth anywhere near that. If we are talking 1 k then that money could be better well spent on Seeking where you will get multiple encounters from girls who aren't total pros and you can have chemistry with.

The best type of girl to be had out there is the low self esteem unicorn. This girl has a low sense of self worth and will undercharge and give you amazing service in search of your approval! I recently picked one of these girls up and she was absolutely beautiful and 19. Only wanted to charge me 80 bucks! Spent many hours together. Really a great girl with serious lack of self esteem. Felt bad for her so I gave her 200 at her charging so little. Was all uncovered. It's rare you come across these types though in my experience in this game. The last low self esteem unicorn I picked up prior to this one was last summer and she wanted only 50! Same experience. We cuddled for a long time and and it was just a great experience. She was also super pretty and in her early 20's.

[HelloThar]

I make way more than 150 a year. (double that.). And there in no way I'm paying 1 k! I'd go broke. LOL. 1 k is to much guys. I fucked in Miami for 4-5. Phoenix is 4 for a 21 yo (I gave extra for mail job cause I see her when I'm in town and she give raw). None of there's girls are with 1 k. I leaned that the hard way. They are mostly scammers and managed (many are). There are unicorns. The ones that will spend an afternoon / evening with you and fuck you more than once for 5. At 150 k a year you can't afford a 1 k fuck. Imo. But yes, tech has ruined the world.

Basically, inexperienced tech guys need to realize that rates have zero correlation to the experience you get. In fact, you're probably more likely to have a worse experience by overpaying because whoever you're seeing is trying to hit a home run here or there from gullible types and doesn't care about good service or anything long term.

As said before, the very best types are ones who do all this on the side while having steady income already, though that does make you skew towards a higher age. They do it because they enjoy it and not because they have to. Not to say there aren't good ones that don't fit that bill, but anyone else has more likelihood of being crazy, clingy, flaky, or other issues. You might as well get into a traditional relationship if you deal with that.

[PriceIsRight39]

Yes the tech dudes. They are making 150 to 200 k a year and they are paying whatever the girls want. When you bring home 14 k a month giving away 1 to 2 k is like normal people paying $300 to $400. Its a problem and its not going away. Only time that well temporarily dries up is when the big companies start laying off and those guys close their wallets in fear of being laid off but that doesn't last long.

I make way more than 150 a year. (double that.). And there in no way I'm paying 1 k! I'd go broke. LOL. 1 k is to much guys. I fucked in Miami for 4-5. Phoenix is 4 for a 21 yo (I gave extra for mail job cause I see her when I'm in town and she give raw). None of there's girls are with 1 k. I leaned that the hard way. They are mostly scammers and managed (many are). There are unicorns. The ones that will spend an afternoon / evening with you and fuck you more than once for 5. At 150 k a year you can't afford a 1 k fuck. Imo. But yes, tech has ruined the world.

[Lego19]

Bbyzen: https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-3442e44497e4.

Anyone have info on this one? I've been chatting with her and can't get quite figure her out. One second she seems real, the next it feels like a scam.

Wants money to prove you are serious LOL. I just moved on. Even if she is real she is just wasting time and looking for easy money.

[Marko Ramius]

I enjoy the process of cruising and meeting girls. I love driving. Other's may not. I would much rather meet girls in person then on a website. I find some really good girls cruising.

That's great for you. I really don't like the cruising and driving part. Meeting them online and then discreetly in public works much better for me. Everybody's different and its great that you have an approach that works for you.

And it's true that a lot of the sugar girls are pretty messed up. That's one more reason I approach them very carefully and try to meet them face to face someplace neutral before we go on to more private activities.

[NYTransplant1]

Bbyzen: https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-3442e44497e4.

Anyone have info on this one? I've been chatting with her and can't get quite figure her out. One second she seems real, the next it feels like a scam.

I wrote this one off as a scam when they reached out two weeks ago. All of the photos are nearly identical, and all of them are super zoomed in / blurry / low-res. Also zero chance the person in those photos is only 24. If things don't pass the smell test I'm out right away.

[Michael1967]

Bbyzen: https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-3442e44497e4.

Anyone have info on this one? I've been chatting with her and can't get quite figure her out. One second she seems real, the next it feels like a scam.

She got crazy eyes.

[MrFox75]

Bbyzen: https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-3442e44497e4.

Anyone have info on this one? I've been chatting with her and can't get quite figure her out. One second she seems real, the next it feels like a scam.

[LolBoat]

I enjoy the process of cruising and meeting girls. I love driving. Other's may not. I would much rather meet girls in person then on a website. I find some really good girls cruising.

Cruising as like driving down aurora ave?

[Michael1967]

I met 3 girls off seeking. All 3 had serious issues. Good looking. But serious issues! The whole seeking scene just isn't for me. Way way too much time you need to invest for little reward IMO. There is simply way too many scammers and bots on that site that you have to weed out and flakes.

I've said this many times, SA is like shopping at the Island of Misfit Toys.

[DelToro]

I usually have 2-4 girls on rotation and will keep good ones in the rotation for a couple of years. So once you do the recruiting you aren't putting in a lot of additional effort.

Exactly if you just want to fuck a girl from SA once, yeah the effort is not worthed at all. The idea is to keep them for a while. I have one that I have been fucking once a month for 4 years now. She started demanding condoms, now loves doing ATM. She is a manager at an architecture firm, and goes to church ever Sunday, super shy but she's is fucking crazy in bed. She does not need the money but finds it hot that she gets some money for the pleasure of fucking her

[ProJohn1]

When you grab girls off the street I think the return on decent girls is about the same, and you have to make a lot more effort and take a lot more risk than you do just browsing a web site and sending PMs. At least for me. Everybody's different.

I usually have 2-4 girls on rotation and will keep good ones in the rotation for a couple of years. So once you do the recruiting you aren't putting in a lot of additional effort.

I enjoy the process of cruising and meeting girls. I love driving. Other's may not. I would much rather meet girls in person then on a website. I find some really good girls cruising.

[Marko Ramius]

I met 3 girls off seeking. All 3 had serious issues. Good looking. But serious issues! The whole seeking scene just isn't for me. Way way too much time you need to invest for little reward IMO. There is simply way too many scammers and bots on that site that you have to weed out and flakes.

When you grab girls off the street I think the return on decent girls is about the same, and you have to make a lot more effort and take a lot more risk than you do just browsing a web site and sending PMs. At least for me. Everybody's different.

I usually have 2-4 girls on rotation and will keep good ones in the rotation for a couple of years. So once you do the recruiting you aren't putting in a lot of additional effort.

[Spacehog]

The GPS here is out of control. Almost every girl I've talked to on SA wants $1000+.

Is anyone here actually paying that?

Yes the tech dudes. They are making 150 to 200 k a year and they are paying whatever the girls want. When you bring home 14 k a month giving away 1 to 2 k is like normal people paying $300 to $400. Its a problem and its not going away. Only time that well temporarily dries up is when the big companies start laying off and those guys close their wallets in fear of being laid off but that doesn't last long.