Nuru Shops and Independents

[JakeForTheWin]

The lily you're all talking about is lily in the area right? Nabi? She's hot as hell and one of the better nurus around. Repeated visits with her once which is rare unless they're awesome like chanel / Victoria / storm / Charli / Tia / Sam / yuyu caliber.

Add Lyn from haven and Mia from nuru stars to that list.

[FrankReynolds]

The lily you're all talking about is lily in the area right? Nabi? She's hot as hell and one of the better nurus around. Repeated visits with her once which is rare unless they're awesome like chanel / Victoria / storm / Charli / Tia / Sam / yuyu caliber.

[James D 2004]

I think you are VERY confused. Sounds like you are only reading bits and pieces. I have never read anywhere that Lily wasn't beautiful. I also think that maybe you are thinking of Haven. There are no reports for ROM. Honestly I am completely unsure what point you are trying to get across?

Yeah your travel comparison is pretty good. Think of Krystal like your travel agent I guess. I am recently single after 30 years and have a new startup business. I just don't have the time to meet anyone right now so I love her services. I am literally there on a permanent schedule twice a week. Yes I am comfortable as far as income and do not mind paying for the looks and service I get there vs other places I have tried, and I have tried alot of them. Every once in a while I find a diamond in the rough but it is rare. I have used her services easily over 50 times and have had 2 negative experiences, which she apologized about and made up to me on future visits.

Granted what we get here is the "Americanized" version of a nuru. Depending on the provider, it's pretty much a few choreographed body slides without emotion. But some providers give it that extra effort that really makes it worth it to me. I laugh at the people that try to compare services like this to your typical jack shack AMP. It is apples and oranges..

Of course, I read. I wasn't responding to you. Now it's your turn.

Arguing about price, service, and looks is futile. Who can bear to not enter a particular naked pussy for 9 months? What can I say? The half-empty view is that you could have gotten FS after the 2nd visit, 1st week, or a month. Somebody may. It may happen with another girl. You never know; it's your right to believe. And on average your FS price is still very expensive.

Is ROM a FS place? That's funny. Who cares? The manager / owner only cares about the occupancy rate and no LE trouble. If they have woman patrons they don't want to ruin their chances. The city still cares about what happens there. They have huge big CMT certificates hanging on the wall. The Nuru girls are pretty good partners. They only do discrete appointments. I doubt if you can get anything if you walk in. But Lily rotates her places. So I think she takes walk-in business too.

And why do you think the ROM bed is so big? The 1st time I saw Lily in Orange. Her reverse missionary couldn't finish me on the standard bed. So she asked me to go on top to complete the FS. On the ROM bed, she managed to screw me harder and finished me, LOL.

The PD price is ridiculous. Tryst isn't much better. It's like if you don't ask for a ridiculous price there you will not be respected. Lily is a bargain in comparison. She is also a bargain compared to Nuru (no FS) prices. If you can't keep up the price you have to come down a bit. She is very close to the Enclave girls for the hour. She is close but not exactly GFE. I may or may not give her another chance, not another nine months. And if I want certainty or minimal research, I'm happy to go to the Green Sign and the highly-reviewed tourist traps along the road. It's close to half an hour in Enclave.

It's not that I am not willing to explore random places. I am known to have fun with grannies when my intel failed. But I regret it after. That is very expensive on average. Green Sign and the like are the bargains.

[AsianPussy]

In case there's confusion, Lilly is a hottie, there's only one girl at ROM I like better, Skyler.

Also Tracy, but for different reasons.

I'm very confused.

I met Lily at ROM through that account and reported. It's still there. It was supposed to be about $300 but it ended up $300 FS plus room rate. And she has to see you first before agreeing to FS. There are others not working in spas so it can be lower.

Lily isn't a looker? Compared to who or what? If she isn't how come she does nuru for so long? Her skin texture is nice, in good shape. The first thing I did was kneel down to worship her butt. May not be model legs or Cardi B butt, but it's one notch above the 3 girls I saw in the "tourist trap" called Green Sign. Her waist is better than a few enclave girls who may have photoshopped a tiny bit over there or they use pictures when they are a tiny bit younger. Lily doesn't dim the lights much and wears tiny underwear during nuru. But honestly, without my glasses and not able to kiss her face-to-face, I can't vouch for her face. But she is well-groomed. Ah, also she may be born here while those in Green Sign barely know English.

I don't fancy nuru; it's just a price range. A good rub is better and the acupressure I got at Green Sign is even better. Most of the time Lily is rubbing my backside with her whole body, which didn't get me hard. And instead of rubbing my front, it was a reverse missionary. It was close to GFE but I got DFK too in the enclave, where I pay almost the same for some girls.

[JimThaDawg]

I'm very confused.

I met Lily at ROM through that account and reported. It's still there. It was supposed to be about $300 but it ended up $300 FS plus room rate. And she has to see you first before agreeing to FS. There are others not working in spas so it can be lower.

Lily isn't a looker? Compared to who or what? If she isn't how come she does nuru for so long? Her skin texture is nice, in good shape. The first thing I did was kneel down to worship her butt. May not be model legs or Cardi B butt, but it's one notch above the 3 girls I saw in the "tourist trap" called Green Sign. Her waist is better than a few enclave girls who may have photoshopped a tiny bit over there or they use pictures when they are a tiny bit younger. Lily doesn't dim the lights much and wears tiny underwear during nuru. But honestly, without my glasses and not able to kiss her face-to-face, I can't vouch for her face. But she is well-groomed. Ah, also she may be born here while those in Green Sign barely know English.

I don't fancy nuru; it's just a price range. A good rub is better and the acupressure I got at Green Sign is even better. Most of the time Lily is rubbing my backside with her whole body, which didn't get me hard. And instead of rubbing my front, it was a reverse missionary. It was close to GFE but I got DFK too in the enclave, where I pay almost the same for some girls.

I think you are VERY confused. Sounds like you are only reading bits and pieces. I have never read anywhere that Lily wasn't beautiful. I also think that maybe you are thinking of Haven. There are no reports for ROM. Honestly I am completely unsure what point you are trying to get across?

[James D 2004]

I'm very confused.

I met Lily at ROM through that account and reported. It's still there. It was supposed to be about $300 but it ended up $300 FS plus room rate. And she has to see you first before agreeing to FS. There are others not working in spas so it can be lower.

Lily isn't a looker? Compared to who or what? If she isn't how come she does nuru for so long? Her skin texture is nice, in good shape. The first thing I did was kneel down to worship her butt. May not be model legs or Cardi B butt, but it's one notch above the 3 girls I saw in the "tourist trap" called Green Sign. Her waist is better than a few enclave girls who may have photoshopped a tiny bit over there or they use pictures when they are a tiny bit younger. Lily doesn't dim the lights much and wears tiny underwear during nuru. But honestly, without my glasses and not able to kiss her face-to-face, I can't vouch for her face. But she is well-groomed. Ah, also she may be born here while those in Green Sign barely know English.

I don't fancy nuru; it's just a price range. A good rub is better and the acupressure I got at Green Sign is even better. Most of the time Lily is rubbing my backside with her whole body, which didn't get me hard. And instead of rubbing my front, it was a reverse missionary. It was close to GFE but I got DFK too in the enclave, where I pay almost the same for some girls.

[JimThaDawg]

Sure, that's one way to look at value. But it behooves us all as mongers to actually scrutinize and compare the service we are getting for that price point. If you're just seeking only to get HE / FS and don't care for the massage and associated theatrics, then most nuru type AMPs aren't a good value at all. BnG and QVs offered by other sex workers would easily be the best bang for the buck. That being said, I can see how the ubiquity of AMPs and their perceived security compared to other more, let say adventurous, options maybe tilt the scale for mongers to visit them.

I liken Krystal's donation structure to vacation / tour packages of popular tourist destinations. The turn key hands off approach may appeal to a portion of mongers that want certain services guaranteed without having to deal with / research / feel out a provider. Conversely you can plan the trip yourself, put effort into understanding the process, arguably come out better for it and spend less money overall.

It's all personal preference at that point. For me, I don't see the value paying those prices. Mainly it boils down to their use of nuru. It's just a buzzword used to jack up prices plain and simple. I've been to Japan and am intimately aware of what constitutes a nuru session. Heck, they even have specific seaweed gel used only for nuru that's incredibly viscous / sticky and will catch anyone unawares. What goes for nuru in most places in the States is a far cry from and pale in comparison to actual nuru. If you take out the nuru aspect and compare the service you get from say one of Krystal's girl and a girl comparable in looks and service at another shop, you will see that the price premium for nuru is insanely inflated.

Ultimately, I just want mongers out there to be aware of and keep in mind that at the $270/ hr price point, you open up segments of the sex work industry that may better cater to what you're looking for. Compare and decide for yourself which one is more valuable to you and act accordingly.

Yeah your travel comparison is pretty good. Think of Krystal like your travel agent I guess. I am recently single after 30 years and have a new startup business. I just don't have the time to meet anyone right now so I love her services. I am literally there on a permanent schedule twice a week. Yes I am comfortable as far as income and do not mind paying for the looks and service I get there vs other places I have tried, and I have tried alot of them. Every once in a while I find a diamond in the rough but it is rare. I have used her services easily over 50 times and have had 2 negative experiences, which she apologized about and made up to me on future visits.

Granted what we get here is the "Americanized" version of a nuru. Depending on the provider, it's pretty much a few choreographed body slides without emotion. But some providers give it that extra effort that really makes it worth it to me. I laugh at the people that try to compare services like this to your typical jack shack AMP. It is apples and oranges.

I have also happily learned (sometimes expensive) that patience and trust go a long long way. I was seeing one provider weekly for simple nuru knowing that extras were not available. 9 months later she offered FS at a slight price increase and we have never looked back. Still see her weekly and man oh man, I am so glad I was patient. Have not seen a single review at any site that says she offers FS. Trust and patience.

I also want to add to the other topic, just because 1 or 2 girls out of 30 offer FS to certain clients, that does not make it a FS place. I consider a FS place to be a place that is pretty much a guarantee every visit regardless of who you see. Green Sign, Believe, etc. Are FS places. Not Haven, ROM, VT, etc. Sure you might find someone there that will give FS, but you cannot expect it on any visit.

[Bastard Chorum]

I'm not arguing with you at all, but what is the value of a service? It's the price people will pay for it.

The market seems to be able to support this price point, and as much as I wish it was the old honey days where an hour was $160 all in, that ship has sailed, those days are gone.

Sure, that's one way to look at value. But it behooves us all as mongers to actually scrutinize and compare the service we are getting for that price point. If you're just seeking only to get HE / FS and don't care for the massage and associated theatrics, then most nuru type AMPs aren't a good value at all. BnG and QVs offered by other sex workers would easily be the best bang for the buck. That being said, I can see how the ubiquity of AMPs and their perceived security compared to other more, let say adventurous, options maybe tilt the scale for mongers to visit them.

I liken Krystal's donation structure to vacation / tour packages of popular tourist destinations. The turn key hands off approach may appeal to a portion of mongers that want certain services guaranteed without having to deal with / research / feel out a provider. Conversely you can plan the trip yourself, put effort into understanding the process, arguably come out better for it and spend less money overall.

It's all personal preference at that point. For me, I don't see the value paying those prices. Mainly it boils down to their use of nuru. It's just a buzzword used to jack up prices plain and simple. I've been to Japan and am intimately aware of what constitutes a nuru session. Heck, they even have specific seaweed gel used only for nuru that's incredibly viscous / sticky and will catch anyone unawares. What goes for nuru in most places in the States is a far cry from and pale in comparison to actual nuru. If you take out the nuru aspect and compare the service you get from say one of Krystal's girl and a girl comparable in looks and service at another shop, you will see that the price premium for nuru is insanely inflated.

Ultimately, I just want mongers out there to be aware of and keep in mind that at the $270/ hr price point, you open up segments of the sex work industry that may better cater to what you're looking for. Compare and decide for yourself which one is more valuable to you and act accordingly.

[FrankReynolds]

Now I know why AsianPussy has so many posts. I mean just today she has what, 6 posts pumping Krystal, ROM (the FULL SERVICE Spa in Santa Ana), and the higher prices since she started her slave trade on IG.

Is there any intel in the posts, because I am not seeing it. All I see is people expressing their encounters and her attacking them and defending Krystal and ROM (the FULL SERVICE spa in Santa Ana). I don't think she realizes that there are 3 or so people that agree to ROM being a Full Service shop and the fact that Krystal is no looker, and even worse. Yet she continues to respond and argue on this forum, all she is doing is proving everyone else's point. Thanks AsianPussy for validating all of us!

If you want Full Service at ROM Day Spa in Santa Ana, just get to know Lily, Min or Shai, they are on IG and eventually they will give out their numbers then make an private appt with any of them. They will Fu## anything for money! HEY, Krystal is giving you the intel at <IG / oc_bodyrubs /.

If you want their private numbers just message me. I am in with all three and no I don't use the same name in the shops.

I did confirm a few minutes ago my appt for Tuesday with one of them. We will see if my $$$ still gets me the house! I'll report back.

Shai is at VT / haven and doesn't work with Krystal.

Min hasn't been around for months.

[JimThaDawg]

If you want Full Service at ROM Day Spa in Santa Ana, just get to know Lily, Min or Shai, they are on IG and eventually they will give out their numbers then make an private appt with any of them. They will Fu## anything for money! HEY, Krystal is giving you the intel at <IG / oc_bodyrubs /.

If you want their private numbers just message me. I am in with all three and no I don't use the same name in the shops.

I did confirm a few minutes ago my appt for Tuesday with one of them. We will see if my $$$ still gets me the house! I'll report back.

Should be interesting seeing how only 1 of them has ever even stepped foot in the spa before and 1 of them has been out of the country for 3 months.

This smear campaign is getting ridiculous, we all understand that you are upset that she banned you and had other spas ban you. It's just karma coming back on you Joe.

[DanCramerOc]

I'm not arguing with you at all, but what is the value of a service? It's the price people will pay for it...

Now I know why AsianPussy has so many posts. I mean just today she has what, 6 posts pumping Krystal, ROM (the FULL SERVICE Spa in Santa Ana), and the higher prices since she started her slave trade on IG.

Is there any intel in the posts, because I am not seeing it. All I see is people expressing their encounters and her attacking them and defending Krystal and ROM (the FULL SERVICE spa in Santa Ana). I don't think she realizes that there are 3 or so people that agree to ROM being a Full Service shop and the fact that Krystal is no looker, and even worse. Yet she continues to respond and argue on this forum, all she is doing is proving everyone else's point. Thanks AsianPussy for validating all of us!

If you want Full Service at ROM Day Spa in Santa Ana, just get to know Lily, Min or Shai, they are on IG and eventually they will give out their numbers then make an private appt with any of them. They will Fu## anything for money! HEY, Krystal is giving you the intel at <IG / oc_bodyrubs /.

If you want their private numbers just message me. I am in with all three and no I don't use the same name in the shops.

I did confirm a few minutes ago my appt for Tuesday with one of them. We will see if my $$$ still gets me the house! I'll report back.

[AsianPussy]

I only dabble in AMPs as it's only a diversion for me when I want something different. However, with what Krystal and her girls are charging, she's capitalizing on her warped idea of what nuru is and preying on a monger's ignorance of the market segment and what other options are out there. Adding anywhere from $10-$50 of the hour rate and you can be enjoying better security and service with kgirls. Or go on HX for another $30 for other ethnicities. As I've said in past posts, she's pushing up on price points where the grass is really greener on the other side.

I'm not arguing with you at all, but what is the value of a service? It's the price people will pay for it.

The market seems to be able to support this price point, and as much as I wish it was the old honey days where an hour was $160 all in, that ship has sailed, those days are gone.

[DanCramerOc]

Just wait until you see her face.

LOL, brutal but honest.

[Bastard Chorum]

Nice write up but I do disagree with Krystal on CMT skills, while on par with many other providers the fact is over the past few years since covid so many great providers used the Biden school debt relief as a reason to get there CMT license, and they have.

Saying you see Krystal for CMT is like saying you go to Del Taco for the Burrito, no you go for the hot sauce in the packet and the Burrito is just the vehicle. Her CMT skills is an excuse we use to get the happy ending. Which is mediocre at best, and her no's are bigger than her yes's. Aside from that she is aging out and her body is below par for the talent out there. But, if you like a girl with short legs and a very long torso then she is your gal.

I've been to ROM several times, actually almost weekly. I see several providers there under many names and yes it is nice, the beds are wide and comfortable. But I do not like that she took so many girls from Haven as they were getting raided and every one of them has full service on the menu.

The issue I have with ROM is that that the number of rooms are limited and the girls are plentiful, she does prioritize her friends that do full service over anyone else. ROM is a great over priced Asian Full Service shop.

Check out their daily lineup on IG: the_rub_of_oc

BTW, the below is a direct text from one of her full service ladies for basic nuru, no extras.

170 for 30 min- (including door fee 45).
220 for 45 min- (including door fee 55).
270 for 60 min- (including door fee 65).

Feel free to disagree all you want. From my experience of getting massages from both legit and less than legit shops, the massage Krystal provides, while not the best, is still very good overall IMO.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to disparage Krystal for what happened with the raids. Isn't natural for the girls to start seeking new places to work and most would gravitate to a nice place given the alternatives? In addition, poaching talent from competitors, especially when they're down, isn't new in this or any other industry.

I have consistently expressed in my posts that I will pay good money for massages as I see it as one of my preferred avenue for self-care. HE are just extras for me at that point.

I only dabble in AMPs as it's only a diversion for me when I want something different. However, with what Krystal and her girls are charging, she's capitalizing on her warped idea of what nuru is and preying on a monger's ignorance of the market segment and what other options are out there. Adding anywhere from $10-$50 of the hour rate and you can be enjoying better security and service with kgirls. Or go on HX for another $30 for other ethnicities. As I've said in past posts, she's pushing up on price points where the grass is really greener on the other side.

[Bastard Chorum]

She looks pretty hot.

Just wait until you see her face.