Non Pro's

[Michael1967]

This is an interesting discussion, but I know we are here for info not talk. I agree w you, essentially. I have had success because I offer more than just money, but nothing has lasted more than 3 mos w a girl <30 because they're so flaky at that stage in life. Also, not great in bed. One 23 yo promised me her oral skills were unbeatable and loved kink. I didn't have the heart to tell her she was not good at either. It's not easy finding true non-pros that respect your time and are fun in bed, if you found one write a post!

EVERY woman thinks she gives the best head. Nope. The vast majority are terrible at it. This is mainly our fault, because we're so happy to get a BJ that we tell them they are fantastic (who is actually going to say, "Jeez, that was horrible") when the reality is that we just want them to keep trying. I'm at the point now that if they're doing a terrible job, I just stop them all they are going to do it hurt me (or rub it raw). The ones that think they're great in bed, well. They'll know when we're finished if they are good in bed. Again, it's our fault. They get with guys that are done in 5 minutes and think it's because they were fantastic. No. That isn't why. It's because the guys they have been with are either inexperienced or terrible. I regularly get the privilege of hearing my neighbor go at it with his girlfriend. I'm embarrassed for him. It really is like 2 minutes max; then they regularly fight because he thinks she's cheating on him. Well, from her perspective, I could see why she'd do it. If you're going to last 2 minutes, then you need to work on other parts of your repertoire.

[Mamouna]

It can be both. Wealth disparity brought on by neoliberal economic trends and awareness of such by the masses in social media causes a gap in the supply / demand expectations of everyone in the transactional relationship market that has existed forever. Adaptive males figure out what the sexually liberated / sex positive younger generation of SBs want and give that to them and it isn't only money. This obviously doesn't count for the semi-pros or supermodels looking to find a Dubai Daddy but if people are having trouble pulling smart, attractive <30 year olds for long-term consistent things it probably isn't a wallet problem unless they should be on the local board and not an SD site in the first place.

This is an interesting discussion, but I know we are here for info not talk. I agree w you, essentially. I have had success because I offer more than just money, but nothing has lasted more than 3 mos w a girl <30 because they're so flaky at that stage in life. Also, not great in bed. One 23 yo promised me her oral skills were unbeatable and loved kink. I didn't have the heart to tell her she was not good at either. It's not easy finding true non-pros that respect your time and are fun in bed, if you found one write a post!

[Member #6729]

It freed the incels who were unable to evolve to fail and the adaptive men to succeed.

Lmao that's a funny way of putting it. However, it did not "free" men. Losers are still losers, except not they can just pay for it 😆all those tech losers in Seattle. Still losers. Still not free but they just have money and can pay LOL.

[Tuchon]

Does anybody have any hook ups in the skaggit county area?

[DilzParty]

If we are going to get sociological, this has a lot more to do with neoliberal economic trends than any kind of gender politics. I've seen guy / SD profiles on seeking, trust me this is about commodification of relationships not sexual liberation, LOL.

It can be both. Wealth disparity brought on by neoliberal economic trends and awareness of such by the masses in social media causes a gap in the supply / demand expectations of everyone in the transactional relationship market that has existed forever. Adaptive males figure out what the sexually liberated / sex positive younger generation of SBs want and give that to them and it isn't only money. This obviously doesn't count for the semi-pros or supermodels looking to find a Dubai Daddy but if people are having trouble pulling smart, attractive <30 year olds for long-term consistent things it probably isn't a wallet problem unless they should be on the local board and not an SD site in the first place.

[Mamouna]

It freed the incels who were unable to evolve to fail and the adaptive men to succeed.

If we are going to get sociological, this has a lot more to do with neoliberal economic trends than any kind of gender politics. I've seen guy / SD profiles on seeking, trust me this is about commodification of relationships not sexual liberation, LOL.

[DilzParty]

Ruined women and men. If it had "freed men" as you say, statistically there wouldn't be so many losers around and men's depression wouldn't be sky high. That's not an opinion that's a fact.

It freed the incels who were unable to evolve to fail and the adaptive men to succeed.

[Member #6729]

The older ones are like being interrogated on a date. Haha And will try in back door into a " real " relationship! I'd ask them, what can you give me the you not already given another (s) man! Hummmm? Yea, nothing.

Over 27 on sale, over 30 50% off, 35? Clearance! 40? Outlet! Over 45. Goodwill! Now many good dudes will buy in sale, but the boss babes " won't settle. " LOL feminism has crushed women and freed men!!

Happy hunting.

P.S. Phoenix will get you under 25 poon for 500, tops! There's so many! At least so far. Keep the tech companies away and it'll be fine. LOL.

Ruined women and men. If it had "freed men" as you say, statistically there wouldn't be so many losers around and men's depression wouldn't be sky high. That's not an opinion that's a fact.

[PriceIsRight39]

You're not wrong but at least for me I'm not really digging the older women (unless they are total smokeshows) because honestly I feel that I could get a 37 year old divorcee with kids normally. Why pay for it? Part of the appeal is getting that college woman who I couldn't get otherwise.

The older ones are like being interrogated on a date. Haha And will try in back door into a " real " relationship! I'd ask them, what can you give me the you not already given another (s) man! Hummmm? Yea, nothing.

Over 27 on sale, over 30 50% off, 35? Clearance! 40? Outlet! Over 45. Goodwill! Now many good dudes will buy in sale, but the boss babes " won't settle. " LOL feminism has crushed women and freed men!!

Happy hunting.

P.S. Phoenix will get you under 25 poon for 500, tops! There's so many! At least so far. Keep the tech companies away and it'll be fine. LOL.

[MrFox75]

Here are a couple that I have seen that are real:

Missmia: https://members.seeking.com/member/4...9-8d8b467aa77e.

She is petite and cute, saw her a few times at my place. 350 for cfs, everything else bare; the first couple times were BBFS but things changed for her. PM me if you want the details. I stopped seeing her because she is in Tacoma and was constantly hitting me up for money.

Latinaflavors: https://members.seeking.com/member/e...7-31f43fa4e497.

I saw her a couple years ago during early covid at my place. She was 350 for cfs, everything else bare. Only saw her once but had plans to meet up again a couple times but she flaked at the last minute. She's a bit of a hippie chick.

[Marko Ramius]

Hell, even the real ones will ghost you at the drop of a hat if you say anything remotely imperfect.

Hell, I do the same thing. If there is anything that is even a tiny bit off I block and move on. We'd all save a lot of time if everyone did the same.

[HelloThar]

From what I'm seeing 90% of new accounts are fake / scammers.

Out of the last 20 that I messaged or messaged me only 2 have been maybe real. One I texted all day yesterday and we are planning to meet next week. We will see. The other I'm still messaging on the site. Both are in there early to mid 30's though and are looking for a longer term arrangement.

Hell, even the real ones will ghost you at the drop of a hat if you say anything remotely imperfect.

[MilfHunter66]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...a-ece393867d57

Watch out for this girl. I was talking to her before her account got deactivated. She just created a new one.

Unfortunately while I think everybody would have more success with a young newbie then an old vet. You can't really tell who is just a scammer and who is a well meaning newbie on this site because there are so many new accounts being created by the scammers.

From what I'm seeing 90% of new accounts are fake / scammers.

Out of the last 20 that I messaged or messaged me only 2 have been maybe real. One I texted all day yesterday and we are planning to meet next week. We will see. The other I'm still messaging on the site. Both are in there early to mid 30's though and are looking for a longer term arrangement.

[3Putt]

Should have known better. After a really cool 1st date she asked for some money and said it would be applied to are scheduled 2nd. After I sent it to her she never responded to text messages and blocked me on SA. Grabbed her account info before she did.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...7-dc86319acc3f

Profile is gone or I already blocked for some reason, did you get laid at least?

[ProJohn1]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...a-ece393867d57

Watch out for this girl. I was talking to her before her account got deactivated. She just created a new one.

Unfortunately while I think everybody would have more success with a young newbie then an old vet. You can't really tell who is just a scammer and who is a well meaning newbie on this site because there are so many new accounts being created by the scammers.