The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

**Ncsmm** · 05-25-23 06:32

Any info?

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...1-ffe12ee56504

She is ready to meet, not asking deposit.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...4-c35685da81cd

Ready to meet not asking deposit.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...4-8ec1f777cbc4

She wants $3 k / month.

I don't know how she come up with this number.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...c-c6a11ba96769

She is ready to meet 200.

Val in Greenville nc? I don't have her link.

Any reviews?

**Falconwings33** · 05-24-23 20:49

Originally Posted by Ncsmm [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/messages...2-5d18bab16ec1

She is ready to meet, not asking deposit.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...8-285f984cdf2c

Ready to meet not asking deposit.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...e-2a2a5d214dee

She wants $3 k / month.

I don't know how she come up with this number.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...b-04518957d3d9

She is ready to meet 200.

Val in Greenville nc?

Any reviews?

I think those are links to your messages and not to the profile. I have done the same mistake earlier.

**Ncsmm** · 05-24-23 17:34

She have nice body, very fun time.

No deposit.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...3-2522654b9770

**Ncsmm** · 05-24-23 16:59

https://members.seeking.com/messages...2-5d18bab16ec1

She is ready to meet, not asking deposit.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...8-285f984cdf2c

Ready to meet not asking deposit.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...e-2a2a5d214dee

She wants $3 k / month.

I don't know how she come up with this number.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...b-04518957d3d9

She is ready to meet 200.

Val in Greenville nc?

Any reviews?

**Jm1312** · 05-24-23 11:31

Originally Posted by LikesGirls [View Original Post]

Why would someone not want to go there?

I am curious as well why someone would not want to go there?

**Gulf0521** · 05-24-23 07:26

Talks a great game. Wants money up front. Sent her $100 back October '22 (yea, I know it's stupid of me) and she just tried it again. Drove to proposed meeting location and it was a fake address & ghosted. Attached is her cash app and pic. Total SCAM. She almost had me again by saying to se d month thru Venmo services to protect the money. I'm sure she's mastered another part of the scam BUYER BEWARE! Bragged she's making thousands or $$ when I called her out on it.

**SmallAsianCock** · 05-24-23 02:14

Originally Posted by TigerAuburn [View Original Post]

Anyone seen these?

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...f-a21ac0ca10ee

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...a-a05e5a6184f6

Reeses.

I have sent her messages but not a response back.

OhSoSweetM.

I decided to not pursue after I received additional pics.

**FunGuyInDurham** · 05-23-23 23:50

Originally Posted by TigerAuburn [View Original Post]

Anyone seen these?

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...a-a05e5a6184f6

Saw this one a couple years ago for a quick time and it was a lot of fun. Never was able to get together for a full date but had some good BBBJ / cim fun for not much.

**Falconwings33** · 05-23-23 22:49

Anyone seen these?

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...f-a21ac0ca10ee

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...a-a05e5a6184f6

**SmallAsianCock** · 05-23-23 20:27

Originally Posted by JerseyBred [View Original Post]

Can't open it like profile is gone.

Profile is still good. She must have blocked you.

**GutterMind4** · 05-23-23 10:02

That's a lot to unpack but, respectfully, I agree with some of that. First, there is difference between what it is and what it should be. I agree that ultimately, men should be all about self improvement and that typically solves accessibility to girls. But my comment was about what it currently is. I also do very well in the regular dating and prefer P4 P because of my travel schedule and convenience. I admit I am in that statistical minority. And although I'm showing my age, I am at my social, financial, and physical peak (it's a wonderful place to live), so I'm only pointing out that these metrics reflect what I see, even if I'm the beneficiary of that. Online dating and social media have given these girls an overinflated self image that has further degraded the dating world. Average girls get tons of attention (texts and messages) from men all over the world sometimes, but they would not return a text from an above average guy in her own neighborhood. Hell, we all see how much effort we put into Seeking and SB. My response rate is still less that 10% and that's on a site that implies she will get paid to date. These same girls are on regular dating sites too, how do you think they feel about those guys? They all know they don't have to work for it and their complacent attitudes show it. And we all know that things that come easy are not respected and things that come with hard work are respected (hence the double standard of promiscuity). Average girls can make a free phone call, above average men have to work for it or pay for it.

BTW, with all surveys and stats, they paint a picture of a broad general trend where as you would be the exception. I also believe this about the female side. There are lots of grounded ladies that have a better perspective that many I see in my travels. I do agree that, as with any form of media entertainment and product advertising, they will slant the narrative to get the most views, clicks, sales, etc. They always show the hot girls in club attire saying the most outrageous stuff, but the content has merit and stats to show it.

Originally Posted by DbbClassy2 [View Original Post]

I'm not any of those things and I don't have trouble getting laid. I choose to see Providers because it's more straight-to-the point most of the times. This statistic is used to sell guys with low self esteem some cure-all package on how to get more women as if there's a secret formula. The only formula is to stop putting women on a pedestal in the first place; stop making "getting girls" such a big deal. If you treat women like human beings rather than just something to get it goes much further than being 6 ft, 6-pack abs and making over $100 K a year. The problem men have is they're shallow and are looking for shallow women. Yes, a shallow chick is probably looking for those things but she's no prize herself apart from her looks. The instant men stop believing all women are chasing this mythic top two percent of men, the sooner they'll be more successful with women.

The 80%/20% rule a guy should focus on is the one that says 80% of your worth should come from yourself and 20% should come from external validation. Guys place too much of their esteem at the feet of someone else: They need to be seen as a man in some other dude's eyes and that's why they care if a girl is "hot". It's stupid. You don't need other dudes to tell you that you're man. You don't need to impress other dudes with what you have and who you're having sex with. None of that matters. When that stops mattering so much, guys make a lot better choices regarding women and everything else. If a guy nees a girl to be "hot" to think well of himself, then that's the problem: you should think well of yourself no matter what "hot" chicks think about you. 80% of your worth should come from you; only 20% should come from external validation.

**JerseyBred** · 05-23-23 05:35

Originally Posted by TriadTraveler [View Original Post]

Does anyone know this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...8-84841b34f08e

Can't open it like profile is gone.

**SmallAsianCock** · 05-22-23 19:56

Originally Posted by TroyNc40 [View Original Post]

She's a good one. Very attractive and sexy. Open to most anything. She enjoys herself and makes sure that you do too. Educated with a better job than some of the mongers on this site. Lives and hosts in a safe and decent part of town. Actually has a personality and can carry on a conversation. No demons at all. The cost of raising teenage and college age kids as a single mom is the reason she does this. She may be older, but is heads above the twenty somethings in my opinion.

She's been around since Craigslist days.

**DbbClassy2** · 05-22-23 19:39

Originally Posted by GutterMind4 [View Original Post]

Through a number of outlets, it's pretty well established that 80% of women are chasing 20% of men. Their standards reflect they deserve (statistically) the top one or two percent of men. Criteria like over 6 ft. , not overweight, older (more experienced and established), over $100,000 salary, and of course, monogamous.

I'm not any of those things and I don't have trouble getting laid. I choose to see Providers because it's more straight-to-the point most of the times. This statistic is used to sell guys with low self esteem some cure-all package on how to get more women as if there's a secret formula. The only formula is to stop putting women on a pedestal in the first place; stop making "getting girls" such a big deal. If you treat women like human beings rather than just something to get it goes much further than being 6 ft, 6-pack abs and making over $100 K a year. The problem men have is they're shallow and are looking for shallow women. Yes, a shallow chick is probably looking for those things but she's no prize herself apart from her looks. The instant men stop believing all women are chasing this mythic top two percent of men, the sooner they'll be more successful with women.

The 80%/20% rule a guy should focus on is the one that says 80% of your worth should come from yourself and 20% should come from external validation. Guys place too much of their esteem at the feet of someone else: They need to be seen as a man in some other dude's eyes and that's why they care if a girl is "hot". It's stupid. You don't need other dudes to tell you that you're man. You don't need to impress other dudes with what you have and who you're having sex with. None of that matters. When that stops mattering so much, guys make a lot better choices regarding women and everything else. If a guy nees a girl to be "hot" to think well of himself, then that's the problem: you should think well of yourself no matter what "hot" chicks think about you. 80% of your worth should come from you; only 20% should come from external validation.

**GutterMind4** · 05-22-23 17:00

This messaging is popping up all over my social media stream. There's several podcasts but, if you ever get a chance, check out a couple called "Fresh and Fit" and another called "Whatever". Not a fan of the format and definitely not "Joe Rogan" but they get these twenty something girls on the panel and show them how delusional they are when it comes to modern day dating. And delusional they are. Through a number of outlets, it's pretty well established that 80% of women are chasing 20% of men. Their standards reflect they deserve (statistically) the top one or two percent of men. Criteria like over 6 ft. , not overweight, older (more experienced and established), over $100,000 salary, and of course, monogamous. The guys on this podcast point out that the woman is born with their value that peeks late teens. Early twenties. Men have to earn their value that peeks 35-50. They crucify these girls for wanting loyalty from high value men when they themselves are neither high value or never earned their value (youth and beauty). They rack up fuck buddies (the 20% guys) like Armageddon is next week, but keep good guys with future potential in their "friend zone". Oh yeah, those friend zone victims are made of of 65% of men that are having zero sex (32%) and guys that have sex once or twice a year. Further pointing out the girls never bought a drink in a VIP club or a gallon of gas on the boat they party on all summer. Yet men the same age are busting their ass at work trying to earn the status in hopes SOMEDAY they can afford that luxury of being around these women.

I saw one the other day that said big venture capital groups were investing in wine and cat food because of the social metrics were betting on increased lonely, single, middle aged woman in the years to come, LOL. Google Female Delusional Calculator and you'll see, based off of US Census data, when girls punch in their ideal guy, he's a fraction of one percent of the population. A lot of these garden tools think 20% of men make over 250 k. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Originally Posted by DJprofessorK [View Original Post]

I would never tell someone to sell themselves short or agree to terms that make them uncomfortable, but I feel like many of these women bought into the content of one too many 'influencer' SB's from a metropolitan area with a high millionaire per capita rate, and have no clue why the same isn't being replicated for them. I have no doubt that a woman who is an 11/10 or a 10/10 in NYC, LA, DC can land a high paid arrangement.

I do not, under most circumstances, believe that a 6/10 in Nebraska will ever see those sort of results. And most women don't want to accept that reality. Many of these women need to look into the median incomes of the places they live. And then be brutally honest with themselves:

'Am I a 10/10 in my area?

'Am I still in the prime of my youth?

'Am I willing to indulge in the whims of someone with those sort of resources?

'Do I come with baggage like a boyfriend / husband, children, or a difficult schedule?

'Am I okay with being someone's mistress and the issues that go along with that?

'Am I willing to be with someone I'm not physically attracted to? And can I fake it well?

When I've hobbied in the past, I've often messaged Girl Next Door types, and many have quoted 700 to 1 k. And I always ask, 'Have you personally received those amounts?' I have yet to come across a GND type who has gotten anywhere near those numbers. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, I just haven't seen it. Sometimes they lie and say, 'yup. All the time. ' And then I say, 'well, I don't want to waste your time, good luck!' And more than a few times, in the span of a few minutes or a few days, they'll message again and want to keep talking.

I know those online SB forums suggest that women wait for 'the whale'. And that's good sense. What they leave out is that by the very nature of the whale, there AREN'T VERY MANY. And the vast majority of those women, the whales DON'T WANT THEM. And will absolutely NOT put up with the whole 'sex once a month'. That's both hilarious and misleading.

They're not helping these women. Stop telling fat women, women with criminal records, women with multiple kids, and women with volatile relationships that millionaires are lining up to be with them. That's a lie. It's also why most women quit SA before they even meet anyone. Those sort of numbers, in most parts of the US, do not exist.