Casino girls

[Baldy Moore]

Assuming we are at the same conference next week, you're staying quite aways away from the conference. I went last year too and found plenty of casino girls at Mandalay Bay and Luxor.

I am a little way from the Bay. But couldn't beat the free room deal I got at Bellagio. Worth the walk from the park to Excalibur and the tram to the bay. Thanks for the info.

[Member #6576]

Arriving on Sunday and staying at the Bellagio until Friday. Was hoping to get any advice you guys can give. I read the posts from the past few months. Has anything changed? Will be out most evenings, cruising through the casinos. In town for a conference and will post any adventures. Haven't been to Vegas for five years.

Assuming we are at the same conference next week, you're staying quite aways away from the conference. I went last year too and found plenty of casino girls at Mandalay Bay and Luxor.

[Baldy Moore]

Arriving on Sunday and staying at the Bellagio until Friday. Was hoping to get any advice you guys can give. I read the posts from the past few months. Has anything changed? Will be out most evenings, cruising through the casinos. In town for a conference and will post any adventures. Haven't been to Vegas for five years.

[Ilvasians]

I was at Paris last weekend and there were casino girls at the bar near the elevators on a regular basis. Most were BCGs and they seemed to be out after midnight. They were kind of agressive in a nice flirty way and I enjoyed chatting with them. Easy to approach as well. I did chat with one asian and another latina one night too. Security is checking room keys at the elevators 24/7 but they could care less who you take upstairs. The whole scene was drama free.

[Chimil Detin]

90% of sugar relationships are 3 types:

1) Escorts who are selective and / or looking for repeat customers.

2) Escorts who don't want to be called that and want to delude themselves that sugar isn't sex work.

3) Escorts who want a date (shopping, dinner, drinks, etc) before sex.

Very few are undefined, and negotiation is similar to any other escort negotiation. ALWAYS define the terms ahead of time.

Yeah, I still struggle with it.

1. I won't know if I want to be a repeat customer until after the first experience. Generally not because part of what I'm seeking is the thrill of a new experience. And "selective" just makes me think, "Hey, instead of getting turned down by regular girls for being not-good looking enough, boring, short, not rich enough, etc. , I can get turned down by girls I'm willing to pay because I'm not-good looking enough, boring, short, etc. " Still doesn't up the appeal.

2 & 3. There's something about "I'm not a sex worker, but I think a date with me is worth payment beyond just getting to be with me" that seems stuck up. No thanks.

3. This isn't the worst thing in the world, but it also feels more involved and might make it harder to bail if you're like, "Ugh, I really don't like this girl".

Plus, as you put it, there's still negotiation.

The fact more girls are getting into it does make me want to know more about it, especially because, in my hometown, the escort market has segmented into drug addicts and executive class with no in-between, and the strip club talent has gone way down, too. But something about it all just doesn't give me good vibes.

Nothing against those of you who do it and like it, either from the SD or SB end. But I just can't get into it.

[EagleLuver]

90% of sugar relationships are 3 types:

1) Escorts who are selective and / or looking for repeat customers.

2) Escorts who don't want to be called that and want to delude themselves that sugar isn't sex work.

3) Escorts who want a date (shopping, dinner, drinks, etc) before sex.

Very few are undefined, and negotiation is similar to any other escort negotiation. ALWAYS define the terms ahead of time.

NEVER give money for anything or buy anything until all terms are on the table. "Just give me something for my time" is a trap.

At the risk of taking this forum on a tangent, I just can not get into the sugar thing.

Escorts, I get it: $X for 30 min. Or $Z for $60 min. Maybe an extra $A for specific services. It feels distinct.

Strip clubs, I get it: $X for a dance, $Z for A minutes in a room, etc.

Sugaring seems more blurry. $A / minute to go on a date. $B for me to act like I like you. $C for me to act like I really like you. Pay for my dinner or college books or clothes and, in return, I get to decide how much that means to me. Maybe you get a discount because you're charming or good looking. Maybe you don't. Maybe I have other customers or a real boyfriend or am not even into guys at all if I'm not getting paid to be. Maybe who knows?

As someone for whom my least favorite thing to do in life is negotiate anything, it all seems very indistinct. I can't get motivated to wade into waters that sound more miserable and unclear logistically than just trying to pick up a civvy at a bar.

Earlier this year, I went on what I thought was a date with a girl I met at a strip club where we met and hit it it off as, seemingly, just two customers earlier. About a 15-year difference in age, which doesn't seem stupid-crazy considering she's mid-20's. It was away from my hometown, but a place I visit pretty often. In the run-up to the date, we had a couple phone conversations, each about an hour, where the idea of an "arrangement" never came up, but going on a dinner date did. In arranging the date, she implied she had a roommate and, if we wanted to hook up, I should get a hotel room; I liked that she was forward in that regard.

We spent about four hours together over dinner & drinks on the date. I'm not going to say the chemistry was perfect, but we got along and had enough of a vibe that I could see it progressing. So we leave the restaurant together and I say I'm willing to keep the date going. That's when she pops it on me: She "has needs" and wants $1,000 for an overnight. And here I thought I was nice just paying for dinner & drinks.

It left me questioning whether she really was getting along with me or just playing along. Part of me was like, if that's what you wanted, you should have just told me up front and we would have wasted a lot less time for the both of us, plus she would have been more likely to have spent that night with someone else who was willing to pay that.

I talked her down to $400, but was too thrown to have a good time. She was nice enough to accept $200 for us just going separate ways as she could tell I wasn't on my A game after trying some different things. Don't get me wrong, attractive girl. But when you go from a few weeks of "I think she might actually be into me" to "there's a good chance she's just in this for the cash" in a moment's notice, it's rattling.

Now granted, that's a sugar-adjacent story, and I get that going through a site is much different than that scenario. But had I progressed forward with this one, I'm guessing that's what the scenario would have been. "I want to see you again. Dinner + $200?" I mean, does the conversation get better if I offer $250 instead? Five minutes of making out?

It's just so weird to me. I don't get it. It's why I haven't even tried to get into it.

[Chimil Detin]

Anything worth a penny is working sugar sites now. Better looking, more fun and safer bet for no diseases.

At the risk of taking this forum on a tangent, I just can not get into the sugar thing.

Escorts, I get it: $X for 30 min. Or $Z for $60 min. Maybe an extra $A for specific services. It feels distinct.

Strip clubs, I get it: $X for a dance, $Z for A minutes in a room, etc.

Sugaring seems more blurry. $A / minute to go on a date. $B for me to act like I like you. $C for me to act like I really like you. Pay for my dinner or college books or clothes and, in return, I get to decide how much that means to me. Maybe you get a discount because you're charming or good looking. Maybe you don't. Maybe I have other customers or a real boyfriend or am not even into guys at all if I'm not getting paid to be. Maybe who knows?

As someone for whom my least favorite thing to do in life is negotiate anything, it all seems very indistinct. I can't get motivated to wade into waters that sound more miserable and unclear logistically than just trying to pick up a civvy at a bar.

Earlier this year, I went on what I thought was a date with a girl I met at a strip club where we met and hit it it off as, seemingly, just two customers earlier. About a 15-year difference in age, which doesn't seem stupid-crazy considering she's mid-20's. It was away from my hometown, but a place I visit pretty often. In the run-up to the date, we had a couple phone conversations, each about an hour, where the idea of an "arrangement" never came up, but going on a dinner date did. In arranging the date, she implied she had a roommate and, if we wanted to hook up, I should get a hotel room; I liked that she was forward in that regard.

We spent about four hours together over dinner & drinks on the date. I'm not going to say the chemistry was perfect, but we got along and had enough of a vibe that I could see it progressing. So we leave the restaurant together and I say I'm willing to keep the date going. That's when she pops it on me: She "has needs" and wants $1,000 for an overnight. And here I thought I was nice just paying for dinner & drinks.

It left me questioning whether she really was getting along with me or just playing along. Part of me was like, if that's what you wanted, you should have just told me up front and we would have wasted a lot less time for the both of us, plus she would have been more likely to have spent that night with someone else who was willing to pay that.

I talked her down to $400, but was too thrown to have a good time. She was nice enough to accept $200 for us just going separate ways as she could tell I wasn't on my A game after trying some different things. Don't get me wrong, attractive girl. But when you go from a few weeks of "I think she might actually be into me" to "there's a good chance she's just in this for the cash" in a moment's notice, it's rattling.

Now granted, that's a sugar-adjacent story, and I get that going through a site is much different than that scenario. But had I progressed forward with this one, I'm guessing that's what the scenario would have been. "I want to see you again. Dinner + $200?" I mean, does the conversation get better if I offer $250 instead? Five minutes of making out?

It's just so weird to me. I don't get it. It's why I haven't even tried to get into it.

[Stevew]

I'm back to my regular visits. In town Sat late thru Tue.

NYNY center bar was stacked with workers. None worth paying. Real world 3, 4 or 5 out of 10. GUYS, don't PAY THESE GIRLS. Unless you're 600 pounds or missing arm and legs, you can pick them up at the bar FOR FREE.

MGM casino floor; random hits, but none worth paying. Same as above, 3,4,5 out of 10.

Anything worth a penny is working sugar sites now. Better looking, more fun and safer bet for no diseases.

[Puffy Combs]

After 10 pm even on weekdays seems like the time to go. The usual bars at those 3 locations are still good if you go at the right time. I saw a few at Luxor and MGM too but nothing at Excal, PH, or NYNY. Quality and quantity is for sure down right now too but hope it changes as the summer approaches.

The only time I had available this week to go out searching was late afternoon Thursday. Zero luck whatsoever unless the CGs are dressing as elderly retirees now.

Hit up CP, Paris and Cosmo. None of the tight dresses and heels mentioned here. Paris had one blonde sitting at video roulette on the end who looked a little too hot to be by herself, but in a ballcap, black shirt, black capris and hunched over too intently to look welcoming. Waved at one blonde in a sundress who walked by, but she picked up her gait and looked away; I later saw her walking around with two other friends. It's fun ending up being the creepy guy, and when I say fun, I'm being sarcastic.

Closest I came to anything was waving at an Asian girl in a pink crop top and cowboy hat that was walking toward the High Roller. Couldn't tell if she was promoting something, working someplace or there for the party. Didn't stop to give me a flier or anything, and did smile at me, but again, just walked past.

Sounds like most of the action is after midnight in the big casinos on the strip on the weekend. I'm in Vegas once a year, usually during the week, usually have to stay off-strip, and tend to only have free time afternoons and evenings. Sucks, and not in the way I'd hope it would.

[Stevew]

Like most MGM Resorts properties, NYNY requires a key card to use the elevator and, as far as I know, will only allow you to go to your floor. I've never had security checking cards. I don't even see one posted near the elevators. You take your card (or use the digital key on your phone), press it against the sensor, and press your floor button. Hard for a third person to follow you up to your room and you'll have to go down to meet anyone who is coming to you.

NYNY has recently renovated their rooms, so they're nice. Not sure if they have done all of them yet.

I'm almost never approached in NYNY, though I see girls walking through. You'll find more across the pedestrian bridge at MGM Grand.

Nyny rooms will all be done by the end of June.

[Chimil Detin]

The only time I had available this week to go out searching was late afternoon Thursday. Zero luck whatsoever unless the CGs are dressing as elderly retirees now.

Hit up CP, Paris and Cosmo. None of the tight dresses and heels mentioned here. Paris had one blonde sitting at video roulette on the end who looked a little too hot to be by herself, but in a ballcap, black shirt, black capris and hunched over too intently to look welcoming. Waved at one blonde in a sundress who walked by, but she picked up her gait and looked away; I later saw her walking around with two other friends. It's fun ending up being the creepy guy, and when I say fun, I'm being sarcastic.

Closest I came to anything was waving at an Asian girl in a pink crop top and cowboy hat that was walking toward the High Roller. Couldn't tell if she was promoting something, working someplace or there for the party. Didn't stop to give me a flier or anything, and did smile at me, but again, just walked past.

Sounds like most of the action is after midnight in the big casinos on the strip on the weekend. I'm in Vegas once a year, usually during the week, usually have to stay off-strip, and tend to only have free time afternoons and evenings. Sucks, and not in the way I'd hope it would.

[SX Doctor]

Like most MGM Resorts properties, NYNY requires a key card to use the elevator and, as far as I know, will only allow you to go to your floor. I've never had security checking cards. I don't even see one posted near the elevators. You take your card (or use the digital key on your phone), press it against the sensor, and press your floor button. Hard for a third person to follow you up to your room and you'll have to go down to meet anyone who is coming to you.

NYNY has recently renovated their rooms, so they're nice. Not sure if they have done all of them yet.

I'm almost never approached in NYNY, though I see girls walking through. You'll find more across the pedestrian bridge at MGM Grand.

[Mfan117]

Planning on revisiting the city after a few years away and I'm wondering how things have been at the NYNY as that's where I will most likely be staying.

I also have never stayed there before so I'd also love to know if the elevators are keycard specific there or not.

[McNutties]

I can't 'out' anyone for the intel. It's secondhand info from someone who no longer works at Cosmo. Yes, crumbs is all the Security Officers are given. Not surprisingly, it's a super tight-lipped operation. The security manager or supervisor maybe has a little more info but I don't know.

I don't think anyone gets flat out arrested in the public areas. Have you ever seen any videos or news reports showing actual arrests in progress being done in the casinos' public areas? Also, just think of all the juicy clickbait-seekers who would record it on their phones for their own social media. Then the prostitution vice guys have completely lost their anonymity. I believe the arrest happens when the man and woman go up to the hotel room and as soon as the money is exchanged, along with some incriminating words for evidence, she or he gets popped. So I think they use 2 rooms. I guess 3 rooms if they are catching men too. There would be one "decoy" room for the funds exchange and arrest. Then they move her / him to the other room (s) where the rest of the unlucky men and women are stacking up, in handcuffs, thinking about how their lives have now changed forever. Ugh.

P.S. On a much brighter note, the other crumb I forgot to mention: somebody from NCMEC and / or NHTRC organizations (possibly both. I forget if it's both) is also nearby, waiting to interview the arrestees.

How often in people experiences do the girls already have a room?? That to me would be a big tip off if its not a normal thing. Or if the girl is very insistent on finding out what room or what kind of car you have if that is where you are headed? Shit I would think once you hit the elevator if they are texting on their phone or when you get to the room they are texting away I would be suspicious. Good luck all.

[MaxiMillion45]

Hello, totally agree with this, but I wonder who gives the order for security to back down is it the security supervisor or the casino {MM} itself? I have seen many casino girls in most casinos but I never see when security kicks them out so the stings might not be that often! {45} I wonder if the Supervisor tells them something like a Password!

I can't 'out' anyone for the intel. It's secondhand info from someone who no longer works at Cosmo. Yes, crumbs is all the Security Officers are given. Not surprisingly, it's a super tight-lipped operation. The security manager or supervisor maybe has a little more info but I don't know.

I don't think anyone gets flat out arrested in the public areas. Have you ever seen any videos or news reports showing actual arrests in progress being done in the casinos' public areas? Also, just think of all the juicy clickbait-seekers who would record it on their phones for their own social media. Then the prostitution vice guys have completely lost their anonymity. I believe the arrest happens when the man and woman go up to the hotel room and as soon as the money is exchanged, along with some incriminating words for evidence, she or he gets popped. So I think they use 2 rooms. I guess 3 rooms if they are catching men too. There would be one "decoy" room for the funds exchange and arrest. Then they move her / him to the other room (s) where the rest of the unlucky men and women are stacking up, in handcuffs, thinking about how their lives have now changed forever. Ugh.

P.S. On a much brighter note, the other crumb I forgot to mention: somebody from NCMEC and / or NHTRC organizations (possibly both. I forget if it's both) is also nearby, waiting to interview the arrestees.