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  1. #16327

    Abundant Heart Report

    Quote Originally Posted by SarahLikesIt  [View Original Post]
    So I had a chance to visit earlier this week and TOFTT. Took quite a bit of emailing and a ph consult. She clearly screens people just looking for pleasure. She also makes abundantly clear in her communication that anything sexual including comments will result in immediate termination. She is 100% medical.

    I did have some legit issues and so I went through with the appointment. She looks way better in person and gives the vibe that something more could be available, but that's just for show to attract suckers like us I imagine. She was nothing but professional, but she is also very comfortable with the human body and its functions.
    Thanks for TOFTT. You just saved me (and some other guys on here I imagine) some time and money. I was curious and I do think she's pretty hot from her CL ads and her website. I had thought surely by the language she used in her ads, it at least involved a HJ somewhere in the process. Curtisy Massage offers pelvic floor treatment too and she has all the warnings about not looking for sexual stuff, etc. On her website too, but when all is said and done, you get a nice massage with HE from her, with some Kegel exercises thrown in for good measure. My only complaint with Curtisy is that she wears gloves. I had hoped Abundant Heart might be as good or better than Curtisy, but with no gloves. Sorry your experience wasn't more fun, but you did those of us curious about this a real service. Good report and good help.

  2. #16326

    Simply Divine

    I was in the area and was able to pop in and see what the fuss was about, and boy was I not disappointed. I drew Shye for my visit, and I couldn't have been more pleased. Her rub technique was absolutely spot on. I went in with terrible aches and pains and left a bowl of jelly. The environment was relaxing, and Shye kept up good conversation. I only did the rub down this visit, but I will be back for sure. Maybe I will book ahead with Milan herself. 100% recommend!

  3. #16325
    ChanceTakin
    Guest

    First Time Bar Set High

    I read about the lovely Milan.

    A smart sexy lady with an excellent salon.

    Curiosity got the best of me.

    I had to schedule and go see.

    Greeted kindly professional and wise.

    And, oh the sight that met my eyes.

    I had a lovely experience.

    I certainly want more.

    I shall again, be knocking on her door.

  4. #16324

    Milan and some East-side jealousy

    99% of my hobbyist activity happens in the metro detroit area. The options are relatively average at best over here. There are a few notable providers occasionally, but mostly your typical, forgettable AMP experiences. Especially post-pandemic, not many good options. I was traveling for work this week which took me through your area. I have to say fellas, you guys have it good on this side of the state.

    After reviewing your thread a little I decided to reach out to Milan, and let me tell you I'm glad I did. She is beautiful, intelligent, puts you at ease in her establishment. I could go on but there isn't really anything I need to add that isn't already here if you read the forum.

    Milan: Thank you for a wonderful travel break. I'll find an excuse to make it back over to GR.

  5. #16323

    Truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    Where ever there are too many women working together there will be drama. It actually sounds like every other salon. I've talked to women working in office environments like banks , they say they would prefer working with more men because the women have way too much drama. I don't think anyone is at fault, just the way it is with too many women in the same place everyday.
    It's anecdotal and many women are low drama, but in general you're exactly right. I work in a heavily woman-dominated field and the needless drama is mind-blowing. I'm convinced that part of the reason I have been so rapidly promoted everywhere I have been is that I work hard, keep my head down, and avoid all the drama games. What's funny is that 90% of the time it's women promoting me over the other women. I've even had some tell me that men are valued due to being lower maintenance.

  6. #16322

    TOFTT Abundant Heart

    Quote Originally Posted by SarahLikesIt  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone tried Michelle from Abundant Heart? (https://theabundantheart.com/, https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/h...609806655.html).

    Looks like it could have potential from a legit medical standpoint. But it might be a lot of hinting, esp in the CL ad, with no actual 'help'. On the plus side she advertises taking HSA debit card payment. If I could get my doc to prescribe medical massage and use my HSA. Maybe I could actually afford this hobby LOL.
    So I had a chance to visit earlier this week and TOFTT. Took quite a bit of emailing and a ph consult. She clearly screens people just looking for pleasure. She also makes abundantly clear in her communication that anything sexual including comments will result in immediate termination. She is 100% medical.

    I did have some legit issues and so I went through with the appointment. She looks way better in person and gives the vibe that something more could be available, but that's just for show to attract suckers like us I imagine. She was nothing but professional, but she is also very comfortable with the human body and its functions.

    You're definitely naked through the whole thing. No draping expected or required. She touches everything but in a very clinical and professional manner with gloves, q-tip, etc. She even put a finger in my ass to assess pelvic floor tension and prostate size, but it was not remotely sexy other than having a very good looking woman do it. She makes it clear that it's ok to have an erection or even ejaculate, but that means from the clinical touching. You're not allowed to even touch yourself and she warns you to keep any pleasurable feelings you experience "on the inside" LOL.

    Now I get the feeling that later in the process some of the therapy includes vibrating instruments in the rectum and possibly on / around the penis but again for treatment, not pleasure, although you may experience pleasure. For me those things aren't that pleasurable compared to a massage + HE so I won't be continuing. If you get off on a good looking therapist treating you while you are fully naked, sticking things in your ass, and allowing you to cum if you can do it without any help from her or you, then it might be worth exploring. I could see some guys having this as their fantasy. It just wasn't me. If you're looking to get a pleasurable touch and get your rocks off there's cheaper and easier routes to doing that. If you want semi-sexy legitimate therapy then head over to see her. Just be prepared to jump through 100 hoops and not much "action".

    TLDR: If you have some pelvic issues and have a exhibitionist streak mixed with some medical control fantasies she could be your dream come true, otherwise don't waste your time.

  7. #16321
    Quote Originally Posted by FireFly87  [View Original Post]
    I am also interested in the contact information for Divine. I plan to do a walk in this week, but I am coming from the west so I would love to set something up ahead of time.
    Hi! Feel free to pm me if you'd like!

    Milan <3.

  8. #16320
    Hey you!!

    Thank you so very much for understanding the mix up that morning! Still figuring out all the bumps as we go, but we will get there. You were such a delight, very easy to talk to!

    Thank you again, see you soon!

    Milan <3.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darshane  [View Original Post]
    Not sure it's worth it to add a comment that repeats, but I saw Milan recently, for the 1st time. At the beginning there was a major time screw-up that had me reasonably irritated; but as I was leaving, Milan had certainly made me forget the start.

    All who say Milan is beautiful and puts you at ease and makes you feel like you have her attention, they are correct. When I have the time and cash to make it happen again, I will do so. Very nice visit. I'll be eager to see future developments at Divine.

  9. #16319

    Natalie v

    Quote Originally Posted by Hazmaz03  [View Original Post]
    I had a small window this afternoon to get a massage. I stopped at a couple different providers and none of them felt like the right fit for the time. I finally called Panacea and asked who was working. To my delight I was told Natalie was working. Natalie has always appeared to be a cute choice for someone I've wanted to meet in the past and never crossed paths with. I arrived and to my delight she was nothing but smiles and warmth. I told her myself that I was excited to see her in person since I have seen her on the Panacea page in the past. The session was nice. Again. Extremely warm and inviting. Didn't feel like business at all. I typically ask right off the bat what the pricing is to get it out of the way and forgo that awkward exchange 1/2 way through. And she was very chill and said she doesn't have a set price. As long as it was fair. To which I can respect. That was the end of discussing an amount. From there on out it was all fun, relaxing, and chill. No direction was needed to be given. She was able to read me like a book and I was just there for the ride.

    I strongly recommend seeing her. She's extremely personable and in this business that is hard to find.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...t/342066008967
    Thanks Bro. Quick questions. Is she in decent shape? And how much you tip for happy ending? You match door fee or give mo to get mo. Thanks for share. Love me some Spanish chicks. Let 'them all cross border if they cute.

    I am the walrus.

  10. #16318
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4407

    Drama

    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestHobby  [View Original Post]
    Must have been a falling out with Milan. Wonder why?

    Reminds me of what happened at BBU between Brit and the other girls.
    Where ever there are too many women working together there will be drama. It actually sounds like every other salon.
    I've talked to women working in office environments like banks , they say they would prefer working with more men because the women have way too much drama.
    I don't think anyone is at fault, just the way it is with too many women in the same place everyday.

  11. #16317
    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    Must have been a falling out with Milan. Wonder why?

    Reminds me of what happened at BBU between Brit and the other girls.

  12. #16316

    Natalie at Panacea

    I had a small window this afternoon to get a massage. I stopped at a couple different providers and none of them felt like the right fit for the time. I finally called Panacea and asked who was working. To my delight I was told Natalie was working. Natalie has always appeared to be a cute choice for someone I've wanted to meet in the past and never crossed paths with. I arrived and to my delight she was nothing but smiles and warmth. I told her myself that I was excited to see her in person since I have seen her on the Panacea page in the past. The session was nice. Again. Extremely warm and inviting. Didn't feel like business at all. I typically ask right off the bat what the pricing is to get it out of the way and forgo that awkward exchange 1/2 way through. And she was very chill and said she doesn't have a set price. As long as it was fair. To which I can respect. That was the end of discussing an amount. From there on out it was all fun, relaxing, and chill. No direction was needed to be given. She was able to read me like a book and I was just there for the ride.

    I strongly recommend seeing her. She's extremely personable and in this business that is hard to find.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...t/342066008967

  13. #16315

    Divine Contact Info

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenYeti56  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    First time poster, semi-new to the hobby but my first time actually setting up an account to contribute to the forum. Would someone be willing to PM me the contact info for Milan / Divine?

    Thanks!
    I am also interested in the contact information for Divine. I plan to do a walk in this week, but I am coming from the west so I would love to set something up ahead of time.

  14. #16314

    Just Divine Contact Info

    Hello,

    First time poster, semi-new to the hobby but my first time actually setting up an account to contribute to the forum. Would someone be willing to PM me the contact info for Milan / Divine?

    Thanks!

  15. #16313

    Beauty and Wellness

    I recently did a walk-in at the Beauty and Wellness Center (formerly Meditation Station). I know back when it was under the previous name it didn't have great reviews, but I had some time on my hands and hadn't made an appointment anywhere that day, so I decided to roll the dice. For me, on this occasion, it worked out well. It was my first time in this establishment under any name and I drew Kim (also listed as "Chyna" in some of their ads, though there is another Chyna out there too). Anyway, she told me that she goes by Kim or Kimberly. I was the only customer there when I visited and Kim looked to be the only one working. I was pleasantly surprised by this when I went in because the parking lot was pretty full, but they share the building with another business (completely separate, but 2 businesses under the same roof, sort of like a commercial duplex). And there's another business on the other side of the parking lot, so I think that's why there were several cars. Anyway, back to Kim. She's a young AA spinner. I found this interesting because my last outing before this one was to see Lady London at Serenity, who's also a young AA spinner, so I felt like I was on a bit of a streak with young AA spinners. If anything, Kim is even a bit more petite than London, though like London, she's definitely not skinny and has curves in the right places. The massage part of the experience wasn't anything to write home about and when we began to discuss how I could "upgrade" my experience, I was somewhat disappointed in the offerings. Basically three versions of a HE (topless, lingerie, nude) for different donation amounts. I inquired if there was another level and there was, for a premium tip. I was definitely attracted to Kim and since that's what I'd come there for, I took the plunge. Kim definitely wasn't GFE at any point during my time with her, but she wasn't rude either. Perhaps businesslike would be the best way to describe her. But once we got down to it, she seemed to enjoy herself. She's very petite and, just as I said about London, she's got a nice, tight body in every sense of the word. One of the complaints I read about this place when it was known as Meditation Station was that lack of cleanliness was an issue. I believe they only have the one massage room, so I could see how this might be a problem. However, on my stop everything looked clean, massage table freshly made up with clean sheets, so I have no complaints. Donation amount was comparable with an experience at Serenity. As always, YMMV, but I thoroughly enjoyed myself.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...s/626462222178

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...r/640895144581

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