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  1. #762
    Quote Originally Posted by JitMarc  [View Original Post]
    Anyone else thinking about how much money you've spent on escorts. Never kept a running count but now I'm curious.
    LOL yes! I stopped counting in the early 2000's but my best guess is I'm somewhere around 300 body count wise. I know I spent about 25 K going to TJ every few days from 2007-2009 so I can only imagine what the total is when you include that AMPs and SWs!

    CC.

  2. #761

    Nora Valkow? Seriously?

    Quoting from a MEXICAN EDUCATED "M. D. " who is NOT EVEN LICENSED TO PRACTICE IN THE USA does NOT help your position any, Nor does the fact that Valkow is "claiming" that "addiction is a "disease" as HEAD OF A FEDERAL AGENCY to justify the on-going WASTE of federal tax dollars to that agency to, with the FAKE, NON-EXISTENT "medical proof", to insure tax dollars keep getting sent to it! 30 years of "medical proof"? BULLSHIT! A non-American "M. D. " saying "addiction is a disease" over and over is about as much "proof" as the Pope saying there is a "deity" because people have believed THAT line of bullshit for 2,000+ years! (Saying something over and over again, and having a bunch of people "believe" it for a long time does NOT MAKE THE "belief" a FACT!

    When Nora Valkow has gone to an AMERICAN MEDICAL SCHOOL, and been licensed to practice as an AMERICAN MD in any state, and therefore has LEARNED what the definition of "disease" is (that gets taught in one), and CAN MATCH "addiction" TO THAT DEFINITION, then I might give her the time of day! Until then, she has about as much medical validity as Trump saying the 2020 Election was "stolen from him"!

    So let's see you, Nora Valkow, or ANY accredited American Medical School faculty member do those two simple things: 1.) Lay out the definition of "disease" that gets taught in American medical schools, and 2.) SHOW how "addiction" meets that criteria! I'll wait! Laughing at Valkow as a reference in the meantime!

    Quote Originally Posted by Admin2  [View Original Post]
    You don't know what you are talking about, there is at least 30 years of medical proof.

    Here's some of the most recent.

    "As a result of scientific research, we know that addiction is a medical disorder that affects the brain and changes behavior. We have identified many of the biological and environmental risk factors and are beginning to search for the genetic variations that contribute to the development and progression of the disorder. Scientists use this knowledge to develop effective prevention and treatment approaches that reduce the toll drug use takes on individuals, families, and communities. ".

    See where it says Biological risk factors and genetic variations? That means medicine, real differences between your body and an addicts body.

    I know citing actual science will do nothing to change your mind, you are convinced that the shit in your brain is true, my audience is the rest of the people being exposed to your bullshit here not you.

    https://nida.nih.gov/publications/dr...iction/preface

    You know where you said you can't find an MD that will make a connection between disease and and addiction.

    Nora D. Volkow, M. D.

    Director.

    National Institute on Drug Abuse.

    There's one right there.

    The DSM V literally defines 11 different types of substance disorders.

    You literally make everybody dumber when you open your mouth. This is too easy, it's like arguing with a flat earth person.

    Have a nice day.

    A2.

  3. #760

    Lol

    Anyone else thinking about how much money you've spent on escorts. Never kept a running count but now I'm curious.

  4. #759
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    Like I said

    You don't know what you are talking about, there is at least 30 years of medical proof.

    Here's some of the most recent.

    "As a result of scientific research, we know that addiction is a medical disorder that affects the brain and changes behavior. We have identified many of the biological and environmental risk factors and are beginning to search for the genetic variations that contribute to the development and progression of the disorder. Scientists use this knowledge to develop effective prevention and treatment approaches that reduce the toll drug use takes on individuals, families, and communities. ".

    See where it says Biological risk factors and genetic variations? That means medicine, real differences between your body and an addicts body.

    I know citing actual science will do nothing to change your mind, you are convinced that the shit in your brain is true, my audience is the rest of the people being exposed to your bullshit here not you.

    https://nida.nih.gov/publications/dr...iction/preface

    You know where you said you can't find an MD that will make a connection between disease and and addiction.

    Nora D. Volkow, M. D.

    Director.

    National Institute on Drug Abuse.

    There's one right there.

    The DSM V literally defines 11 different types of substance disorders.

    You literally make everybody dumber when you open your mouth. This is too easy, it's like arguing with a flat earth person.

    Have a nice day.

    A2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sudcciv  [View Original Post]
    There is NO MEDICAL PROOF that shows that ANY "addiction" (whether to a liquid, solid, gas, or activity!) meets the criteria for "disease" that gets taught in ANY and all accredited American Medical Schools in the USA! Not ONE Iota of evidence or scientifically proved connection! If someone was to prove it, they would win a Nobel Prize in Medicine for it. I have worked in the addiction treatment field for over 20 years, and cannot even find an MD that can make the connection between "addiction" and "disease". Saying it "is" does NOT make it so. Nor does echoing it because others have since the nonsense of "12 Steppism" was excreted into print in 1939! There is ZERO involuntary acquisition of ANY "addiction"! You know what IS a disease-INVOLUNTARILY ACQUIRED MEDICAL CONDITIONS! Like COVID, CANCER, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, MENTAL ILLNESS, PARKINSONS's, etc. Please name how ANYONE involuntarily afflicted with THOSE CONDITIONS "choose" them-as they CHOOSE a liquid, solid, gas or activity to destroy themselves around! Additionally, there is NO SUCH THING as an "addictive personality" (it ain't in the DSM-5 as a "psychologically diagnosable condition" People who believe in the bullshit of "addictive personality" are nothing more then those who WILL NOT take responsibility for what they willingly, knowingly, and voluntarily do to themselves, or made a career out of doing! Addiction as a "disease"? BULLSHIT! "Addictive Personality"? DOUBLE-BULLSHIT!

  5. #758

    Bullshit!

    There is NO MEDICAL PROOF that shows that ANY "addiction" (whether to a liquid, solid, gas, or activity!) meets the criteria for "disease" that gets taught in ANY and all accredited American Medical Schools in the USA! Not ONE Iota of evidence or scientifically proved connection! If someone was to prove it, they would win a Nobel Prize in Medicine for it. I have worked in the addiction treatment field for over 20 years, and cannot even find an MD that can make the connection between "addiction" and "disease". Saying it "is" does NOT make it so. Nor does echoing it because others have since the nonsense of "12 Steppism" was excreted into print in 1939! There is ZERO involuntary acquisition of ANY "addiction"! You know what IS a disease-INVOLUNTARILY ACQUIRED MEDICAL CONDITIONS! Like COVID, CANCER, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, MENTAL ILLNESS, PARKINSONS's, etc. Please name how ANYONE involuntarily afflicted with THOSE CONDITIONS "choose" them-as they CHOOSE a liquid, solid, gas or activity to destroy themselves around! Additionally, there is NO SUCH THING as an "addictive personality" (it ain't in the DSM-5 as a "psychologically diagnosable condition" People who believe in the bullshit of "addictive personality" are nothing more then those who WILL NOT take responsibility for what they willingly, knowingly, and voluntarily do to themselves, or made a career out of doing! Addiction as a "disease"? BULLSHIT! "Addictive Personality"? DOUBLE-BULLSHIT!

    Quote Originally Posted by ReyKittyHawk  [View Original Post]
    People can become addicted to any sensation, good or bad that they either find desirable, or just expect.

    Substance abuse or the thrill of something that gives a high or good feeling that is desirable and longed for is the most common. Drugs, gambling, success, SEX, winning, even violence and abusive behavior towards others.

    Even bad feelings that they come to "expect" can be addicting. Like the girl who seeks bad boys who treat her like crap, because that is what she is use to, and assumes that is what is supposed to be.

    People are multi layered creatures. We can want things not good for us, and and do things that damage or hinder our success. True addictions are not an open "choice" but a compulsion to find the desired experience provided by the stimuli. Emotional, psychological, physical, social, layers all come into it.

    If you have an addictive personality, it can be something you have to battle your entire life, no matter what your logical mind wants, or believes or knows what it should and should not do.

    A true addiction, is a chronic relapse disease. Don't' believe me? Look it up.

  6. #757

    Addiction is a Serious Topic

    People can become addicted to any sensation, good or bad that they either find desirable, or just expect.

    Substance abuse or the thrill of something that gives a high or good feeling that is desirable and longed for is the most common. Drugs, gambling, success, SEX, winning, even violence and abusive behavior towards others.

    Even bad feelings that they come to "expect" can be addicting. Like the girl who seeks bad boys who treat her like crap, because that is what she is use to, and assumes that is what is supposed to be.

    People are multi layered creatures. We can want things not good for us, and and do things that damage or hinder our success. True addictions are not an open "choice" but a compulsion to find the desired experience provided by the stimuli. Emotional, psychological, physical, social, layers all come into it.

    If you have an addictive personality, it can be something you have to battle your entire life, no matter what your logical mind wants, or believes or knows what it should and should not do.

    A true addiction, is a chronic relapse disease. Don't' believe me? Look it up.

  7. #756
    Quote Originally Posted by Sudcciv  [View Original Post]
    Can you name even one instance where you have seen a person with an active substance addiction get "Forced" to used the substance? (breaking news: substances cannot force anyone to acquire or ingest them-since they are inanimate objects and do not make decisions! So, who does that leave? The substance use investor! The ingestor decides to acquire and ingest the substance! Not the other way around! Believe any substance is somehow "More powerful than the ingestor of it" more than warrants that perspective being under this topic's title! There is no more stupid perspective then some idiot substance user that thinks "I can't stop! "The drug is more powerful then I am!" jesus. Those brainwastes deserve immediate doses of the highest lethality of fentanyl to rid their idiocy off the planet!
    Yall are arguing different issues. Physical addiction is curable. I have never heard of anyone having withdrawals ten years after quitting. Emotional addictions are for life. Sugar is a good example. We know heart disease is the main cause of death in America, and we also know obesity is one of the main causes. Why are some of the most strongest, most respected etc. People overweight? They know they just have to eat healthier or quit sugar but most can't. Once you know what it tastes like you always know what tastes like. It's the same reason so many vegans eat "fake meat".

  8. #755

    Clown

    Quote Originally Posted by Sudcciv  [View Original Post]
    Can you name even one instance where you have seen a person with an active substance addiction get "Forced" to used the substance? (breaking news: substances cannot force anyone to acquire or ingest them-since they are inanimate objects and do not make decisions! So, who does that leave? The substance use investor! The ingestor decides to acquire and ingest the substance! Not the other way around! Believe any substance is somehow "More powerful than the ingestor of it" more than warrants that perspective being under this topic's title! There is no more stupid perspective then some idiot substance user that thinks "I can't stop! "The drug is more powerful then I am!" jesus. Those brainwastes deserve immediate doses of the highest lethality of fentanyl to rid their idiocy off the planet!
    Oh you are just so smart. I am going to have to write down all of these useful insights so I can quote you properly. You stay away from that fentanyl now.

  9. #754
    I was halfway through a lengthy response, and even had some medical resources for you to peruse, before I realized it would 99% be a waste of time. Short version: thank the gods you're not in the medical field.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sudcciv  [View Original Post]
    Can you name even one instance where you have seen a person with an active substance addiction get "Forced" to used the substance? (breaking news: substances cannot force anyone to acquire or ingest them-since they are inanimate objects and do not make decisions! So, who does that leave? The substance use investor! The ingestor decides to acquire and ingest the substance! Not the other way around! Believe any substance is somehow "More powerful than the ingestor of it" more than warrants that perspective being under this topic's title! There is no more stupid perspective then some idiot substance user that thinks "I can't stop! "The drug is more powerful then I am!" jesus. Those brainwastes deserve immediate doses of the highest lethality of fentanyl to rid their idiocy off the planet!

  10. #753

    Exactly!

    Quote Originally Posted by MongJuanSilver  [View Original Post]
    So by your logic, all the people that relapse time and time again, or their bodies fight back or even quit on then, are all just weak-willed /-minded and didn't really want to be free of an addiction that's impacting their lives?

    I guess this is the most appropriate part of the forums for that sort of post.
    Can you name even one instance where you have seen a person with an active substance addiction get "Forced" to used the substance? (breaking news: substances cannot force anyone to acquire or ingest them-since they are inanimate objects and do not make decisions! So, who does that leave? The substance use investor! The ingestor decides to acquire and ingest the substance! Not the other way around! Believe any substance is somehow "More powerful than the ingestor of it" more than warrants that perspective being under this topic's title! There is no more stupid perspective then some idiot substance user that thinks "I can't stop! "The drug is more powerful then I am!" jesus. Those brainwastes deserve immediate doses of the highest lethality of fentanyl to rid their idiocy off the planet!

  11. #752
    So by your logic, all the people that relapse time and time again, or their bodies fight back or even quit on then, are all just weak-willed /-minded and didn't really want to be free of an addiction that's impacting their lives?

    I guess this is the most appropriate part of the forums for that sort of post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sudcciv  [View Original Post]
    People CAN and DO QUIT ADDICTIONS all the time! Ever hear of people quitting their "nicotine" (tobacco smoking) addiction? Guess how most of them do it? That is right, COLD TURKEY! Yes, there are dangers to quitting some drugs like alcohol and benzodiazapines. Medical supervision, and medication withdrawals MAY be in order. But a person that really wants to quit and STAY QUIT from an addictive substance can do it with NO "relapse requirement" at all. I once had a client that said if she put HALF as much mental effort into staying off her "stuff" as she did into "scoring it" and ingesting it, then being and remaining clean would be as easy as breathing. Make a decision and stick to it. It IS that simple!

  12. #751
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    Posts: 5117

    You have no idea what you are talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by Sudcciv  [View Original Post]
    People CAN and DO QUIT ADDICTIONS all the time! Ever hear of people quitting their "nicotine" (tobacco smoking) addiction? Guess how most of them do it? That is right, COLD TURKEY! Yes, there are dangers to quitting some drugs like alcohol and benzodiazapines. Medical supervision, and medication withdrawals MAY be in order. But a person that really wants to quit and STAY QUIT from an addictive substance can do it with NO "relapse requirement" at all. I once had a client that said if she put HALF as much mental effort into staying off her "stuff" as she did into "scoring it" and ingesting it, then being and remaining clean would be as easy as breathing. Make a decision and stick to it. It IS that simple!
    I've been sober for over 40 years and I'm telling you this is just some stupid "just say no" Nancy Reagan shit. Addiction, all addiction, love, dope, smoking, gambling, ect is ENOURMOUSLY difficult to overcome, that's why so many fucking people try and try and try and try and fail and fail and fail and fucking die, and then along comes an asshole that says "just make a decision. ".

    You just made everybody in the room dumber. I wish I was allowed to use the ignore button I swear to fucking god I wish I could.

    A2.

  13. #750

    Addiction is a DECISION. PERIOD!

    Quote Originally Posted by SukijoSeiwaka  [View Original Post]
    You're describing normally functioning people. A leader like you would ruin people's lives. Your logic is similar to, "just add duct tape. " You clearly have no understanding of how defects can alter bodies.

    Basically, a drug addict's body has been altered at such a micro level that simply quitting cold turkey often sends the body into shock subconsciously and can result in long term ramifications. People like you are the reason why cures Europe and Asian countries have keep getting pestered when touching English soil. I'm not disparaging you just trying to fix your logic. Saying, just put a banaid on it doesn't help people with serious problems. Most people can't quit cold turkey. It's medically advised not to. Long-term binge drinkers often experience seizures and stroke during their first week of quitting. This is why we have rehab LOL. You can seriously get screwed up just by quitting but, with your logic: All you need to do is be a man and tough it out.

    Even though alcohol has fundamentally changed your physiology at a microcosm.
    People CAN and DO QUIT ADDICTIONS all the time! Ever hear of people quitting their "nicotine" (tobacco smoking) addiction? Guess how most of them do it? That is right, COLD TURKEY! Yes, there are dangers to quitting some drugs like alcohol and benzodiazapines. Medical supervision, and medication withdrawals MAY be in order. But a person that really wants to quit and STAY QUIT from an addictive substance can do it with NO "relapse requirement" at all. I once had a client that said if she put HALF as much mental effort into staying off her "stuff" as she did into "scoring it" and ingesting it, then being and remaining clean would be as easy as breathing. Make a decision and stick to it. It IS that simple!

  14. #749

    Don't Do It Around Other People, Black's Beach Etiquette

    Come on, guys and girls, lets not fuck this up. The beach is long and deep. If you want to drink, or get frisky with someone walk way North away from the main trail (the one near the glider port) between the second trail (at the end of the parking lot) and find a comfortable spot away from everyone. If you really want perverted privacy go even further North beyond the second trail.

    Don't do it between the main trail down and the Volley ball nets, this is the common area most families might go and is most crowded. Don't do it around or near the volley ball courts, this is where the nudists, and naturalists go. They are the ones who like to pretend they don't notice pussies, cocks, and hard bodies. And they will confront you for jerking off or being drunk or lewd.

    Don't go south, this is where the surfers go, and they will think you are creepy in every way.

    If you want to suck, fuck, jerk and drink, expect to hike far to a secluded spot well beyond the Volley Ball courts.

    Walk North, find a secluded and quiet spot away from everyone, and stay alert. Be ready to stop any action and cover up, and conceal your drinks. Be fucking discrete for god sakes.

    The problems is the pervs and drunks want to be around other people. Yea we know you want to see as many naked people as you can. But this is counter productive, and will get your behavior reported, and possibly ticketed. Imagine a ticket of lewd and indecent behavior on your record? Of even just public intoxication? Or both?

    I'd be lying if I said I never got frisky or enjoyed a beverage or two on Black's beach. I have, and I've had my share of fun. But I do it in such a way nobody objects, complains, or sees a need to report my behavior. Really, unless you come sit by me, most can't even tell what I'm up to with my friends, but we stay clear of the crowds too. And we are discrete, we don't act like anything goes.

    If you want to see more nudity, go for a walk along the beach and scout the scenes. Then go back to your spot and enjoy yourself away from concerned citizens and lifeguards.

    I do appreciate this post because I'm use to keeping an eye out for the Lifeguard Truck cruising back and forth, now I have to watch out for walkers in plain clothes too.

    But when you walk north far enough, and are way back on the beach far from the waves, it's real easy to see anyone coming your way for a long way off.

    Lets not fuck this one up, because it is a STATE BEACH that tolerates nudity and can stop tolerating it in a heart beat on the whim of one politician responding to complaints.

    Quote Originally Posted by NudeBeachPerv  [View Original Post]
    IDK the veracity of this.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/blacksbeach...rcement_crack/

    I will say I have seen lifeguards running up and down the beach not in uniform. The tell tale is they have walkie talkies. FWIW, I would rather have a beach with a really laid back atmosphere where hotties feel comfortable sunbathing, someone can discretely have a drink (but not get drunk and start fights,) and one can take a dip in the ocean au natural as they say. Wether or not if there is a crackdown, I hope this beach does not go the way of San Onofre.

  15. #748

    Blacks Beach

    IDK the veracity of this.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/blacksbeach...rcement_crack/

    I will say I have seen lifeguards running up and down the beach not in uniform. The tell tale is they have walkie talkies. FWIW, I would rather have a beach with a really laid back atmosphere where hotties feel comfortable sunbathing, someone can discretely have a drink (but not get drunk and start fights,) and one can take a dip in the ocean au natural as they say. Wether or not if there is a crackdown, I hope this beach does not go the way of San Onofre.

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